Exactly how big of a cushion should I give myself for an Anaconda? (Also need general Conda Advice)

CoyoteXStarrk

CoyoteXStarrk
I have been grinding my butt off trying to get to the point where I can afford a Conda and now I am only a few days away at most.


- I built the basic ship I want on Coriolis (Basically the bare minimum I need to be able to fly it comfortably)


- I gave myself a 30 million credit cushion once I am done grabbing my upgrades


- I plan on flying to Li Yong Rui space to get the discount




So is a 30 million credit rebuy cushion enough in your guys opinion? I plan on just doing more passenger missions until I can properly upgrade the ship to the point where I can start taking it to do more risky missions. So its not like i plan on grabbing it and then going into conflict zones.



Also is there any advice you would give a first time Anaconda owner?
 

dognosh

dognosh
CoyoteXStarrk said:
I have been grinding my butt off trying to get to the point where I can afford a Conda and now I am only a few days away at most.


- I built the basic ship I want on Coriolis (Basically the bare minimum I need to be able to fly it comfortably)


- I gave myself a 30 million credit cushion once I am done grabbing my upgrades


- I plan on flying to Li Yong Rui space to get the discount




So is a 30 million credit rebuy cushion enough in your guys opinion? I plan on just doing more passenger missions until I can properly upgrade the ship to the point where I can start taking it to do more risky missions. So its not like i plan on grabbing it and then going into conflict zones.



Also is there any advice you would give a first time Anaconda owner?
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In open(especially if doing CG) go with at least 3 rebuys and money for trading and a bit of backup(about 100M Cr)
Other modes, 60M would do.

What is your build?
 

777Driver

777Driver
mistohise said:
If you plan to fly it in open then 30m won't last long
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A bit over dramatic, how many Anaconda's have you lost whilst doing pax or freight runs in Open? In the past 24 months I have lost 0 freighters to cmdrs, and that is running without shields.

@Op, if you have a back up ship then one rebuy is all you need for your first trip, not much if you are initially using it as a pax/freight runner. A single 8 minute trip in the Anaconda can pay for a couple of rebuys, if you are hauling out of the right system, no idea what the passenger market is like right now, but I'm sure you can at least make a single rebuy from a single trip all economy.


Don't stress about it, the Anaconda is basically an overpowered Python. iIn order to get yourself killed, you have to either be actively looking for fights in Open, or unable to follow a basic procedure as far as evasion tactics.

Like with all large ships, the money rolls in quickly, just stay out of trouble until you have the ship equipped properly for PvE or PvP.
 
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Yakito

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If it's not engineered then it may need about 2 rebuys for safety. 1 to rebuys anaconda and 2nd hopefully just to have as backup, but I'd switch to a smaller ship while you grind more money to feel safer.

Gosh, it's such a long way of saying: "get 3 rebuys so you have a peace of mind".
 

JetsonRING

JetsonRING
Completely A-rating an Anaconda (or any ship) will cost anywhere from two to three times the original purchase cost of the stock ship, depending on modules fitted and engineer modifications. 30 million? Not even close. A stock Anaconda costs, according to Coriolis just under 147,000,000 credits so figure on spending anywhere from another 150 million all the way up to around 300 million on A-rated modules to make her ready for PvP. This also does not cover combat experience which is more valuable and harder to obtain than the ship itself.

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Some advice:

You have heard it before: NEVER FLY WITHOUT THE REBUY. EVER!

If you do not have enough credits to cover at least one, but probably/preferably two (2) rebuys after buying any ship, don't buy it, you're not ready yet. If you have to (are forced to) sell a ship to purchase another ship, don't buy it, you're not ready, yet. Sometimes you just want to get rid of an old ship and so trade up, that is different but for instance if you must sell your only ship, say for instance, a Python to buy an Anaconda . . . don't do it.

Also, if this is your first Anaconda, temporarily fit an automatic docking computer and let it fly you into the station a few times so you can get an idea of where and how high to line up you new, really big ship to successfully get it through the slot (Hint: really, really high) without blowing it up yourself. The forum is full of stories from CMDRs who have blown up their shiny, new Anaconda the first time or second they tried to dock it because they were used to flying smaller ships.

o7
 
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CoyoteXStarrk

CoyoteXStarrk
dognosh said:
In open(especially if doing CG) go with at least 3 rebuys and money for trading and a bit of backup(about 100M Cr)
Other modes, 60M would do.

What is your build?
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https://coriolis.io/outfit/anaconda...A=.EwBj4yu9VI==..EweloBhBmSQUwIYHMA28QgIwV0A=


Its nowhere near my final build. Thats just the bare minimum of what I need to do passenger missions to get the money I need to upgrade everything else. I am just tired of flying the Python and I wanna get my hands on the Conda finally.


JetsonRING said:
Completely A-rating an Anaconda (or any ship) will cost anywhere from two to three times the original purchase cost of the stock ship, depending on modules fitted and engineer modifications. 30 million? Not even close. A stock Anaconda costs, I believe around
146,969,450​
o7
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I'm not trying to fully A rate it. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to buy it for another month and I am not gonna wait that long lol


The 30 million is just to cover 3 rebuys if I muck things up. Which to be honest I rarely do.
 
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777Driver

777Driver
JetsonRING said:
Completely A-rating an Anaconda (or any ship) will cost anywhere from two to three times the original purchase cost of the stock ship, depending on modules fitted and engineer modifications. 30 million? Not even close. o7
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Op clearly states that they are flying a basic build until they earn some cash though pax missions. Rebuy is for starting out, doubt very much they are starting out with a half billion credit build. Initial Pax freighter builds are cheap, insurance is peanuts too..

just checked the insurance on my pax/freight Anaconda, 7.9million credits, you make that money in under 10 minutes hauling freight in a Anaconda.
 
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CoyoteXStarrk

CoyoteXStarrk
777Driver said:
Edit -Ninja'd by the OP - -

Op clearly states that they are flying a basic build until they earn some cash though pax missions. Rebuy is for starting out, doubt very much they are starting out with a half billion credit build. Initial Pax freighter builds are cheap, insurance is peanuts too..

just checked the insurance on my pax/freight Anaconda, 7.9million credits, you make that money in under 10 minutes hauling freight in a Anaconda.
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Yeah I mainly run bulk passenger missions at the moment so I don't have many dangers so the Rebuy cost is honestly the least of my worries lol
 

Bartizan

Bartizan
My nearly naked explore conda rebuy is just under 12 million. If you can avoid the temptation to take it into combat mostly stock to see what all the fuss is about (which will end badly by the way...usually does), then a couple rebuys worth of creds should be enough insurance against the learning curve should suffice. As 777Driver said just above...you will start making money quick with the conda and those rebuys will quickly seem like nothing.
 

Rock Hunter

Rock Hunter
Bear in mind a docking computer will get you back into a station safely, but you’ve still got to fly it out for the first time yourself....unless I’m not utilising docking computers properly!

The Anaconda is big, doubly big when you’ve come from small ships. That first squeeze out of the station slot needs to be slow and steady (with a rebuy in your back pocket in case you get horribly wedged.)
 

Hell Razor5543

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One of my Golden Rules I cover with new Players is purchasing new ships. I STRONGLY recommend Players have 200% of the purchase price first (assuming they are not trading in their current ship) so that they can buy the ship, do some basic outfitting, a couple of cargo loads and a couple of REBUYs. If you have achieved Elite in any of the four disciplines you can go to The Founders World, where all ships and modules can be had with a 10% discount (however, ships that are locked behind rank requirements still require you to have the relevant rank). This reduces the purchase price of an Anaconda from 146Mcr to 132Mcr (and I have bought and outfitted my Anaconda there, with a current REBUY of around 20Mcr).
 
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Dimensions

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Depends where you are situated. I hardly see any other players about, and when I do they don't automatically try to kill you. 30mil is plenty of cushion unless you PvP, can't fly for sh**, or spec your new ship badly for what you want to do. I can't even remember the last time my ship got blown up, and now I cruise around in a Covette.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
As a great man (or, at least, a man with a great beard) once said; "Two is one. One is none".

If you only have one re-buy for a ship, a single screw-up means you're left flying without re-buy.
If you have at least 2 re-buys, you can afford to screw-up, learn from your mistake, and hopefully continue on for long enough to earn another re-buy before you need it.

I have 3 general-purpose Anacondas which are all identical and all cost a bit over Cr400m each, thus having a Cr20m re-buy.
They're not top-tier ships, by any stretch, so the final cost of outfitting an effective Annie can creep up on you.

Me, I'd want at least Cr50m in the bank to cover the cost of repairs, servicing, mission-specific modules and a couple of re-buys before I lifted my wheels in an Annie.
 

Lucifera Danzig

Lucifera Danzig
Hell Razor5543 said:
One of my Golden Rules I cover with new Players is purchasing new ships. I STRONGLY recommend Players have 200% of the purchase price first (assuming they are not trading in their current ship) so that they can buy the ship, do some basic outfitting, a couple of cargo loads and a couple of REBUYs. If you have achieved Elite in any of the four disciplines you can go to The Founders World, where all ships and modules can be had with a 10% discount (however, ships that are locked behind rank requirements still require you to have the relevant rank). This reduces the purchase price of an Anaconda from 146Mcr to 132Mcr (and I have bought and outfitted my Anaconda there, with a current REBUY of around 20Mcr).
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Li Yong-Rui controlled systems (like 7 Andromedae, for example) give a 15% discount on ships and modules without having to get an Elite rank, and the extra 2.5% discount for the Elite rank adds to the LYR discount (not straight addition, some kind of formula that totals 17%). Though Founders' World does have the convenience of having absolutely every ship and module in the game, in one place.
 

crushdepth

C
One rebuy is enough. If you get killed you park it and swap to another (cheap) ship for a few hours till you can afford it again. But in solo there's not much to worry about.

Be careful with your first trip through the mailslot. The conda bridge is on the top of the ship, so aim high. If you try to go through the middle like you would on a small ship that huge bulge on the belly is going to catch on the cattle grate.
 

Yosharian

Yosharian
If you're flying with one or two rebuys then I can't understand that at all, because you make one or two mistakes and then you have to sell your ship? What's the point. Just fly something cheaper. The big three aren't that much better than smaller ships. They are better, but not Death Star-compared-to-an-X-Wing better.
 
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