Bay12 games goes into a lot of detail regarding future content for Dwarf Fortress. You just have to look at the current in-progress dev page to see what's currently planned and how it's all progressing. Despite being a small developer, their development still manages to put most larger developers to shame in terms of PR and communication, as anyone who has read the dev page http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html will have seen.
I think I've realised what the problem with ED is.. Braben has lost interest and moved on?
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Bay12 games goes into a lot of detail regarding future content for Dwarf Fortress. You just have to look at the current in-progress dev page to see what's currently planned and how it's all progressing. Despite being a small developer, their development still manages to put most larger developers to shame in terms of PR and communication, as anyone who has read the dev page http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html will have seen.
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Bis from Arma series and something similar Egosoft from X series.
The roadmap showed from Fd it's all but a roadmap: basically it's say all and nothing so yes: it's nothing.
I don't understand that first sentence at all. As for the second part, I don't understand that either.
I know where that is. SSSSHHH!
They have an expo for what you want. If there is no info about the future of ed at the expo you have a point. Currently you dont. Last expo they outlined Beyond, now they are making beyond. Next expo they tell you what 2018 brings, then they work on that.
Cosmo doesnt hate fd or the game, he is just really really really really anxious by nature. If db doesnt talk, he is scared ed is dying. If he does talk, he is scared everything not discussed that session will never come. If stats go down, he is scared the game is dying. If it rains, he is scared the game is dying.
You have some whiny 'haters' here, but cosmo aint one of em. He is just scared.
Jenner
I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
That's a point I wish some of the people who feel a need to dismiss any critical post, or attack the players who make them, would get a handle on.
I can only speak for myself here but if I hated the game, or thought it was crap, or was tired of it, I wouldn't be wasting my time on its forum commenting on it and suggesting ways in which I thought it could be improved.
This just confirms that the apocalypse is coming sooner than expected
Nothing to be worried about.
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The problem for me has always been the way the game was designed... like a cake - each rollout they add a new layer, completely seperate from the previous but lacking much in the way of flavour. What we are starting to see are fillings being added to the layers now. I am hopeful that strawberry spacelegs is on the menu later this year. DB rules!
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WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Amen brother.
As long as they don't decide to give us a strawberry shortcake ... :xThe problem for me has always been the way the game was designed... like a cake - each rollout they add a new layer, completely separate from the previous but lacking much in the way of flavour. What we are starting to see are fillings being added to the layers now. I am hopeful that strawberry spacelegs is on the menu later this year. DB rules!
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I agree, so they can realise how dull the gameplay is.
Rafe Zetter
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Firstly one, you took that utterly out of context, just to serve your own purpose of the quote and your post, in an attempt to make yourself look superior.
Secondly - There's 2 ways to look at this Zakk.
One is that I'm a bitter and twisted old guy with absolutely nothing better to do than and moan about a game I backed, but don't play, and would seemingly rather do this than play the close to 100 games in my back catalogue, that have been patiently awaiting my attention - this is seemingly your** preferred viewpoint of me, despite having never met me and having only your obviously "limited world experience" interpretation of my activity on this forum to base such an accusation on. It's entirely possible you prefer to believe your version of my reasons, because it requires no thought on your part at all.
** and all the other detractors of my posts over the years.
The other - is that I'm a guy who backed the game based on a set of "promises" that DB made but has yet to fulfill - and rather than just put that down to bad luck and write DB and FDev off as a bunch of lying crooks and requesting a refund during "offlinegate" as so many hundreds of other backers did - I stuck at it, and gave them my faith, my time and opportunity to make it right.
I've been having my say on various topics regarding the game, AS IS MY RIGHT AS A PAYING CUSTOMER, and sometimes they even make sense, in the hope that DB and FDev pays attention. Furthermore I'll continue to keep prodding them enough so that they fulfill obligations they SET FOR THEMSELVES, when THEY laid out what content was going to be in Elite Dangerous.
Playing the game or not has no relevence for that, I'm an owner - a KS backer - and that makes me something that's known in the rest of the world as an "interested party"; and this is a phenomena that happens pretty much everywhere, everyday even if you personally aren't involved or even aware of it, in a myriad of ways. Sometimes it happens with "politics", sometimes with "sports" and occasionally with "celebrity blah blah bulls..." and you would be amazed at how many things are said around the world on a daily basis by people who are not nor will they ever be involved in "politics", "sports" or "celebrity blah blah ".
So, your argument was???
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Rafe Zetter
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I applaud your optimism, but things change and so has the company - DB is no longer the majority shareholder, and has not been for some time - should the board decide, he can be removed from his position and the company at any time, don't beleive me check the data at companies house.
The game might well still hold a special place for him, but there are plenty of other computer gaming companies with just ONE GAMING FRANCHISE to thier stable, who are nonethless incredibly successful, and have not required a handout from a chinese corporation to raise funds to keep the doors open - and if you think that's an over exaggeration - why else did they do it?
Would you sell a chunk of your company to a chinese investor just to get a foot in the chinese market? If you would then you are a fool, who deserves what you get - because the chinese do not take any prisoners in business, they play for keeps and only agree to any financial deal if they thought there was more advantage to be made than is first offered - Tencent are playing the "long game" with FDev and many others. As each boardmember decided to retire, sell up and move on, the chinese will buy thier shares - 20 years from now FDev could well be an entirely chinese owned company - anyone who has paid attention to world politics will know this.
It is under that premise that Cosmos and others are worried that DB is no longer doing the driving - and anyone with even a modicum of gaming history will know that once a games initial creator hands over content direction to a third party - bad things often happen as they impose thier own interpretations of "what the gamers want" - which can often be very different from the original ethos the game was created under.
Cosmos clearly knows this - many other people saying he's talking out of his rear, clearly do not.
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Rafe Zetter
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please read my post about "interested party".
BTW none of my "vitriol" is bitter.
See the part in my post about offlinegate and refunds for further explanantion.
Passionate - sure. Giving a damn - sure. Angry - sure occasionally.
Trying to effect change and hold FDev accountable? Absolutely.
Maybe more people should hold those who don't deliver upon thier OWN WORDS accountable - the world would be a better place for it.
I'm going to assume you've done some of this in other areas of your life at least once sleut - or are you one of those rare people for whom life just "happens TO" and just accepts everything that happens around you without ever trying to do anything about the things you don't like.
Me, I'm not built that way; and I won't apologise for it.
And just to clarify - I'm not like this in any other forum for any other game anywhere - not even for Eve Online that I've played for over 9 years (subbed), or WoW I played for 7 (subbed) - The combined costs of those subs is over £1,000 - way way more than I backed ED for.
The elite franchise and the original in particular has a meaning for me most will not appreciate or even understand - I've made no secret of the events around that section of my life, and I accept that that is what fuels my particular "burning" for this game and what's happening around and within it.
Gotta stand for something right?
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Paige Harvey
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Hey guys,
Wow, this is a pretty meaty thread!
Firstly, I can tell you from being here in the office for two years, and from working with David, that he's very involved in Elite Dangerous and still loves the game and the community. It really is his baby, as some of you have said! In terms of the games direction, we've recently announced and released the first part of a year of free updates which are largely focused on reworking and improving core mechanics for which we will happily accept your feedback. The whole team is dedicated and passionate about making the best Space Sim game possible, and we hope you'll be along for the ride.
o7 Commanders.
Wow, this is a pretty meaty thread!
Firstly, I can tell you from being here in the office for two years, and from working with David, that he's very involved in Elite Dangerous and still loves the game and the community. It really is his baby, as some of you have said! In terms of the games direction, we've recently announced and released the first part of a year of free updates which are largely focused on reworking and improving core mechanics for which we will happily accept your feedback. The whole team is dedicated and passionate about making the best Space Sim game possible, and we hope you'll be along for the ride.
o7 Commanders.
hs0003
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On that note, it would be very nice to get occasional updates from the man himself
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