I was not sure if I would want to have her in my park, but after seeing todays' profile I really do want it, I originally thought it would be pretty much a re skinned, smaller T Rex, but it really looks like they outdid themselves again with the amazing detail.
Metriacanthosaurus looks pretty awesome
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Yup it looks fantastic! The detail on these dinosaurs are awesome
I absolutely this as a dinosaur. It's a very Jurassic park dinosaur even though it hasn't had any screen time. If that makes any sense haha
It doesn't have the proto-feathers like the one on the website, but it looks amazing. I not expecting feathers in the game, and, by the looks of it, we shouldn't expect proto-feathers.
Yeah, it's a shame that Universal refuses to "update JP lore" according to newest research.
Then again, as said in the films - the dinosaurs they are hatching aren't REAL dinosaurs and aren't supposed to be. They are made the way people want them to look, not how they really looked according to the original DNA.
Yeah, it's a shame that Universal refuses to "update JP lore" according to newest research.
Then again, as said in the films - the dinosaurs they are hatching aren't REAL dinosaurs and aren't supposed to be. They are made the way people want them to look, not how they really looked according to the original DNA.
I just watched a gameplay video of Saurian where they have raptors or something like it climbing up trees and gliding around like a squirrel. Though there is no hard scientific proof that they did this. Yet people call that game accurate when it's all just based on the guess work of science. Cause we don't have any actual Dinosaurs to study. I think the Dinosaurs had feathers people get to carried away with wanting to put feathers on every Dinosaur and turn them into big chickens. I don't care for feathered Dinosaurs. I grew up with featherless Dinosaurs. I think the idea that they were climbing trees, would glide and fly is a bit of a stretch. I am glad Frontier is sticking to JP lore. Cause like I said before this game is also about nostalgia for older JP fans like me and putting feathers on them would ruin that.
Of course if they made it optional I wouldn't care. I just wouldn't use them.
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The truth is that we will never know how the dinosaurs really were
Well, everything you know about featherless dinosaurs is also based on the guesswork of science. Everything we know about all prehistoric creatures amounts to guesswork.
Saurian is grounded in the "soft dinosaur" movement, which is explained very well in this video. The Soft Dinosaur movement encourages speculative behavior as a reaction to earlier theories which only supposed truth based on direct fossil evidence, despite the fact that many creatures we can observe in our world today had bizarre features or unusual behaviors that cannot be observed from even the most complete skeleton. The Soft Dinosaur movement is technically more correct in its theories than most creatures shown in the JP universe, because the Soft Dinosaur movement at least has skeletal reconstructions that are far more accurate.
I'd actually like to point out that the Metriacanthosaurus is breaking from JP lore in one very significant way: its hands are supinated, not pronated (held in front of the body like a rabbit) like most JP theropods (Rex, raptors, Spinosaurus). We know that very few theropods could actually pronate their hands. Basically, this Metriacanthosaurus is 100% accurate to our current (but very limited) understanding of the animal.
Off topic, but if your nostalgia for Jurassic Park is ruined by the possible appearance of feathers on dinosaurs in a video game... just go watch Jurassic Park then?
How sure can we even be about feathers or not?
Take this Smithsonian article from last year for example were there was done more research about Tyrannosaurus rex and claim that it was likely covered in scales.
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The problem is people act like some things are fact with no real evidence. I am talking about the raptors climbing trees and gliding around. If there is no real evidence then I don't see a reason to try and pressure developers to put stuff in games cause it's basically all just speculation.
Also why do you want to force people to have feathers on Dinosaurs? Why should I have to go watch JP? There won't be any feathers on Dinosaurs in this game ever. But if they did have them then it should be optional like I said. I don't see the point in trying to force the whole Dinosaurs had feathers idea onto Frontier and the players of the game.
Have you seen what they did to the poor T-Rex? They covered the thing in feathers, it looks like a big chicken now. People were going around saying the T-rex had feathers and then scientists come out and say no it most likely had scales. This doesn't seem to be something they are sure of so there is no point in people creating games or movies trying to keep up with current science cause it changes all the time.
We can only be as certain as science allows. This goes for everything in paleontology. It's all subject to change based on the latest findings. That goes for both scales and feathers.
Back in 2012, paleontologists had just discovered Yutyrannus, a very large theropod that was feathered, and was related to T Rex. Through phylogenetic bracketing, they concluded that T Rex would have also had feathers. Later on, further studies showed that Yutyrannus was not as closely related to T Rex as previously thought, meaning that we could no longer draw that same conclusion. In addition, paleontologists like Carr pointed out that actual close relatives of T Rex show evidence of scales, so currently the thinking is that it is more likely that T Rex had scales than feathers.
@PCMR4Life, if you reread my post, you'll notice that I never actually said that there should (or should not) be feathers in JW:E. I'm not trying to force anything on anyone. I was just explaining to you why a game like Saurian might make that kind of speculation. There actually is some evidence that some of raptors' unique traits might mean that they were arboreal (i.e. lived in trees), which would make using their feathers for gliding a very reasonable bit of speculation.
I don't think there will be any feathered dinosaurs in the game, and within the context of a Jurassic Park game I don't think it should be forced on anyone. However, Frontier has said that they want their dinosaurs to be "authentic," and some dinosaurs in the game really are more or less up-to-date to current theories, Metriacanthosaurus being one, Suchomimus and Edmontosaurus being some others. Edmontosaurus even includes a speculative head crest! There isn't a whole lot of fossil evidence for that, but there it is...
The whole problem with the argument that "JP dinosaurs aren't the real thing, they're just what people want to see" is that it assumes that everyone wants to see the dinosaurs the same way, which simply is not true, as the many many debates online about feathers vs scales can attest.