I hate Witcher 3

Eh... the world in the Witcher games never grabbed me. I never felt the urge to see what was over the next hill, like I *always* do in Bethesda games.

CD Projekt red does fantastic quests and dialog, I'll grant. Better than Bethesda. But that's all. :)

Different people, different experiences, I guess?
 
Eh... the world in the Witcher games never grabbed me. I never felt the urge to see what was over the next hill, like I *always* do in Bethesda games.

I enjoy the Bethesda games too, but that remark is very surprising to me.
The world of the Witcher 3 was gorgeous.
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
I enjoy the Bethesda games too, but that remark is very surprising to me.
The world of the Witcher 3 was gorgeous.

Gorgeous, yeah. Beauty in and of itself isn't what drives me to explore, though. It's finding interesting stuff. Cool encounters. Witcher just didn't click for me on that level.
 
Gorgeous, yeah. Beauty in and of itself isn't what drives me to explore, though. It's finding interesting stuff. Cool encounters. Witcher just didn't click for me on that level.

May it be that you are more interested in sandbox open world, rather than story driven open world games?
W3 is a world where quests unfold, the atmosphere is strongly tied to narrative. For instance, I found the swamp area in valen simply perfectly designed and implemented. In W3 I explore how narratives unfold rather than what’s behind the mountain.
 
There were very many things I loved about the series but probably top of then all was the storytelling and the presentation of those stories in the great setting of the universe they creates. They put good money into writing and voice acting. These are things I place a lot of value on, much more so than graphics and the like. I far rather the developer tell a great story really well than boatloads of pixels perfect tech demo style games that I couldn't care to mention.
 
Masters at jogging simulators. :p

In all seriousness though, I love Bethesda games. But 90% of the time I've spent in their games was aimless wandering, discovering and looking at stuff. Kinda like Elite. :)
I am really interested in what they are planning for us in Starfield.

Man, a Bethesda RPG is a sci-fi setting would be perfect.
 
Good point E3 in June this year should have lots of good stuff getting discussed....May be even Cyberpunk!
 
We'll hopefully find out at E3.

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for as well. They did it with Fallout 4, too. All quiet and suddenly on E3 they say "So, here's how it looks. It's releasing in September"
It was kind of awesome. No years long overhyping and other charades.
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for as well. They did it with Fallout 4, too. All quiet and suddenly on E3 they say "So, here's how it looks. It's releasing in September"
It was kind of awesome. No years long overhyping and other charades.

Yup. Todd Howard likes to keep the period between announcement and release as short as possible to maintain excitement. Pretty wise, if you ask me. :)
 
Masters at jogging simulators. :p

In all seriousness though, I love Bethesda games. But 90% of the time I've spent in their games was aimless wandering, discovering and looking at stuff. Kinda like Elite. :)
I am really interested in what they are planning for us in Starfield.

Same here. I've got hundreds of hours in FO4 and finished the story once. I just picked up FOvr and that takes my wandering around to a whole new level....well now that I've gotten used to the clunky controls.

On topic....I think W3 was a great game but I've not gone back to it since I've finished it about year ago. I don't know if that says something but it was a pretty epic game.
 
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Gorgeous, yeah. Beauty in and of itself isn't what drives me to explore, though. It's finding interesting stuff. Cool encounters. Witcher just didn't click for me on that level.

I think I'm ticking kinda like you. TW3 blew me away with the setting, combat (mostly sword) kinda clicked with me and I liked the story and generally side-quests. But the open world? No, didn't really invite me to explore on my own.
It was lacking landmarks and lookout points and the woods were in general mostly in the way to overlook the place.
I deactivated the question marks on the map and mostly the quests led me through the world well enough.

AN open world I enjoy is more like where I can set my own daily goal, be sure to meet some "fun" and think about how to place the flare for the artillery strike best. Boy, I LOVED that feature in FO4. Essentially I did the settlements just so I could cover ALL DER MAP with artillery bombardment. For the giggles.

And in Skyrim it was all about Khajit and showing the furless who's boss without them knowing what hit them.

Oblivion was more about the story-side again - not that great world for hiking.

Morrowind was huge. So were the possibilities. It was sandboxy what you could do with the skills and crafting and alchemy and I turned it to 11.

All these games (apart Oblivion - I dint finish after the xteenth portal raid.) I usually play once (story) and often begin a new character without really intending to go through the story again. Instead I go hiking or mess about with artillery strikes or steal from all the pockets.
 
I really don't know what people like so much about this game. It lasted just 2 hours before I wiped it from my SSD. The Witcher represents almost everything that I hate in modern games, starting from the cut scenes over the voice overs (I hate both), then the horrible auto-camera in 3rd person combat scenes (horrible!) up to the ridiculous flower picking (that I would expect in an MMO at best but not in a singleplayer game like the Witcher). This was the game that let me doubt from there on what the masses seem to like: Meanwhile I stay away from everything that even remotely smells like mainstream! :p

The whole crafting system was kinda useless. It didn't really need the huge bloat of ingredients and items. Same about the flowers - most of them were useless once you finished the potion you needed or wanted. I didn't bother with the whole thing much. I used oils and health regen. Couldn't tell all the potions apart neither.
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
I really don't know what people like so much about this game. It lasted just 2 hours before I wiped it from my SSD. The Witcher represents almost everything that I hate in modern games, starting from the cut scenes over the voice overs (I hate both), then the horrible auto-camera in 3rd person combat scenes (horrible!) up to the ridiculous flower picking (that I would expect in an MMO at best but not in a singleplayer game like the Witcher). This was the game that let me doubt from there on what the masses seem to like: Meanwhile I stay away from everything that even remotely smells like mainstream! :p

The whole crafting system was kinda useless. It didn't really need the huge bloat of ingredients and items. Same about the flowers - most of them were useless once you finished the potion you needed or wanted. I didn't bother with the whole thing much. I used oils and health regen. Couldn't tell all the potions apart neither.

Yeah, I'm rarely into crafting in games (with the exception of Subnautica I guess). Even in Fallout 4 I hated settlements. Witcher was no different. I tried making bombs and potions and whanot and was bored real fast.

The story in the Witcher was interesting and the cutscenes were well done, but to me it felt like it was a bit too 'grimdark'. I don't mind a more adult story that grapples with themes of racism and ignorance, but man - every single person in those games was a complete jerk. Even Geralt was unlikable half the time. It got tiring. :) I can do that for a movie (barely) but not for a game that I'm going to be spending dozens of hours in.

Coupled with the aforementioned clunky combat and I just couldn't push myself through. I tried! I really did. I kept hoping to experience the same game that CDProject's masses of adoring fans said was there, but....

Again - this is all subjective.
 
Well, the soundtrack is quite good. And the Blood&Wine add-on is one of the best pieces of DLC I've seen in the last couple years. Superb sountrack, too and a Comtessa in underpants - what more would I need?
 
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