Hardware & Technical GTX 1080 price bottom

GJ51

GJ51
I too have been watching this pretty closely. My take is that mfgrs. ramped up to meet the crypto-craze demand just in time for the crypto-crash which has likely created increased capacity just as demand has started to evaporate.

I think we are currently at an inflection point just off the top and that it will still take a few months to find a bottom. I'm looking for that to be near just prior to the introduction of the next generation cards; maybe a little before then if they shift production lines early.

HTH - I think we are heading toward a pullback, but not yet near a bottom.
 

Broon

Broon
I didn't really pay attention what they were before the miners borked the prices but the $500 range seems to ring a bell. Were they cheaper than that?
 

lizzy

L
They've been going down, but I'm not sure if it's because manufacturers are producing more cards or because cryptocurrency is currently tanking with BTC hovering at around $7k and Ethereum going below $400 the last I saw (these two are the main coins being farmed). Anyway, they're currently still tanking so I assume a lot of the crazy people paused their GPU domination propaganda (jk).

Might still go a bit lower, unless prices go up again, then more people will want these cards. I doubt another $100 would happen unless crypto goes even lower though.
 

Broon

Broon
Dural said:
Here's some pricing history. https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/video-card/
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Hmm, interesting info. +Rep Commander.

So it would seem that a $580-90 average low is not out of the question, at least historically. But wouldn't it be neat if that $500 low price line came back?

(I won't even dream about that fluke drop to $399 in that graph)

:D

I won't say that I am dissatisfied with my current card (Radeon RX480 8GB) but I was always looking at the 1080's as a dream. Then the prices went ape and I figured it would be a loooooong time before I could even halfway consider going for one. Now it looks like the bubble has burst and a 1080 could be a reality in the not too distant future. Then again my CPU (i5 4460 @ 3.2) may not be able to keep up with that card and it would just be a useless expenditure.

I can still have dreams though!
 
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Dural

Dural
Yeah, it would be great to see the price drop back down to more sensible levels again. $399? In dreams only :) I don't know how accurate this is but it might be worth checking out http://www.thebottlenecker.com/ as it claims to give you an idea of how well matched your system components are so you can get an idea of how much benefit you get from a new card.
 

Broon

Broon
Dural said:
Yeah, it would be great to see the price drop back down to more sensible levels again. $399? In dreams only :) I don't know how accurate this is but it might be worth checking out http://www.thebottlenecker.com/ as it claims to give you an idea of how well matched your system components are so you can get an idea of how much benefit you get from a new card.
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Hmm, just as I suspected. That site says my CPU paired with a 1080 will produce a 20% bottleneck. It recommends I upgrade to a Ryzen 5 1600. That's kinda interesting since I have contemplated either a Ryzen 5 1600 or 1700 in a fanciful new build.

That site even says my chip is bottlenecking my current RX 480 card by 10% though. Maybe so but I have no perceived problems with running any games at the moment. In fact my monitor is likely the weakest link in the chain ATM.
 

Zenith

Zenith
Good site that Bottleneck one!
It pretty much confirmed what I knew already, that the best upgrade I have left is to go up to i7 from my current i5.

As for graphic card prices, the exact model of graphic card I got during the Black Friday sales is currently 125% of the price I paid for it.
I can see some of the 1080 range are starting to come down, but I wouldn't bet on them hitting the prices they were before the crypto bubble.
 

Zak Gordon

Zak Gordon
Shadowdancer said:
Whatever you do, don't buy used, because chances are high that you'll get some beaten-to-death partially molten mare.
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Yeah, this. Basically the bitcoin bubble will have (effectively) killed the market for second hand cards in the 1060-1080 range (and whatever AMD cards in that range are) going forward. Most gamers will know these have most likely all been used as 'miners' are will be defective or near-death, so a waste of money.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
Dural said:
Yeah, it would be great to see the price drop back down to more sensible levels again. $399? In dreams only :) I don't know how accurate this is but it might be worth checking out http://www.thebottlenecker.com/ as it claims to give you an idea of how well matched your system components are so you can get an idea of how much benefit you get from a new card.
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I have an I7 4770K and 8 GB RAM, and the site says that it works well with a GTX 1070 (7% bottleneck)

I never thought that my processor would work badly with a GTX 1070Ti (10%) - To work well I would have to overclock the CPU of 15%-20% (to fall 5% bottleneck)

At normal frequency 3.5Ghz, even with 16 GB of RAM, it does not work well (always 10% bottleneck)

I am very disappointed for the 1070Ti (and 1080)

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gazereths

G
Even my 980ti could sell for more than I bought it for 2 years ago ATM, another few weeks to a month and the price will plummet IMHO, crypto has tanked and it's not profitable unless you have free electricity. Though most miners are still trying to get top dollar for their 2nd hand cards.

Prices are coming down but I'd wait for the new 1180/2080 or whatever Nvidia will call it to drop, then the 1080 should be back to a sensible price.
 

gazereths

G
Patrick_68000 said:
I have an I7 4770K and 8 GB RAM, and the site says that it works well with a GTX 1070 (7% bottleneck)

I never thought that my processor would work badly with a GTX 1070Ti (10%) - To work well I would have to overclock the CPU of 15%-20% (to fall 5% bottleneck)

At normal frequency 3.5Ghz, even with 16 GB of RAM, it does not work well (always 10% bottleneck)

I am very disappointed for the 1070Ti (and 1080)

:eek:
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Hmm I'm not to sure what you mean by terms like "7% bottleneck" if your CPU was the bottleneck of your system you would see 100% usage on your CPU and <100% usage on your graphics card. Also I don't see the real reason to have a CPU that is capable of being overclocked (k series CPU) and not doing it.

I have a 4790k, basically the same as your 4770k and it will not bottleneck even a 1080ti unless you are using a very low resolution monitor.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
gazereths said:
Hmm I'm not to sure what you mean by terms like "7% bottleneck" if your CPU was the bottleneck of your system you would see 100% usage on your CPU and <100% usage on your graphics card. Also I don't see the real reason to have a CPU that is capable of being overclocked (k series CPU) and not doing it.

I have a 4790k, basically the same as your 4770k and it will not bottleneck even a 1080ti unless you are using a very low resolution monitor.
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I'm just reporting the test results on the site indicated by Cmdr Dural --- http://www.thebottlenecker.com/

Of course the K series is made to be overclocked

I was just talking about basic frequencies

On the site they say that at 10% CPU bottleneck, the system is not optimal

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gazereths

G
Patrick_68000 said:
I'm just reporting the test results on the site indicated by Cmdr Dural --- http://www.thebottlenecker.com/

Of course the K series is made to be overclocked

I was just talking about basic frequencies

On the site they say that at 10% CPU bottleneck, the system is not optimal

:)
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Oh OK sorry I missed that link to the site. Just looked at it and I wouldn't put any faith in a site like that. There is no option to say what the resolution or refresh rate of the monitor you are playing on which has a huge impact on GPU/CPU bottleneck.

Yes the 4770k could possibly bottleneck a 1070ti slightly if you were hoping to get 150+FPS on a 1080p monitor. Maybe the latest and greatest Intel i7 wouldn't, but you need to understand the impact the FPS and resolution has on these figures. If you are going for 60FPS @ 1080p or 1440p the 4770k and 1070ti would be fine, depending on the game.
 
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