PvP Why PvP is not popular in Elite Dangerous?

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Why should how many people do whatever in open matter at all? Why should anyone expect that open needs to be promoted, preserved, or optimal? Why isn't your choice to play in open just the same as your choice to fly whatever ship, use prismatic or bi-weave, or to use s docking computer. If you were to decide to only fly a Cobra MkIII, should that mean, everyone should be limited to that one ship?

Your choices have consequences for just you. Not me, nor your neighbor. Just you. You, and I, get to choose from the modes. Open doesn't trump Solo. They are the same. Your determination to play in open, is your choice. You live with it. Play and let play.

I remember adrenaline rush I had while hauling CG stuff in Open right through Pirate blocade. And I remember stopping doing that after failing it once.
So current state where modes are unbalanced coupled with my rationality does not allow me to play the way I want. So this mantra does not apply here well enough.
 
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Powderpanic

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What numbers do you want?

There are 153836408.765 pvp players in OPEN and 1 rlsg who doesnt like PvP and thinks all modes are equal.

How dare you!!

All modes are equal, except Solo...
Because you know it hasn't got Wings or Multicrew...
Wait..... If there are three modes and one isn't equal... Hang on, I think I am onto something...
So All would mean all three... but.. hmmm one is missing some features...
OMG!!! The three modes are not equal in everyway...

ALL MODES ARE NOT EQUAL!!

You heard it here!!

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Powderpanic
The Voice of Open
 
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I remember adrenaline rush I had while hauling CG stuff in Open right through Pirate blocade. And I remember stopping doing that after failing it once.
So current state where modes are unbalanced coupled with my rationality does not allow me to play the way I want. So this mantra does not apply here well enough.

I enjoy blockade running too, I'm grateful to those who are willing to give up their time to provide entertainment for me, and I try to be entertaining for them (preferably without getting killed ;)).

But if you had done that run a couple of hours later after they'd all left the game, it would be as safe as solo - although you wouldn't know that until you tried. It's the players that spice things up, not the mode itself. Do you see?
 

ALGOMATIC

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Hardly - Salt Miners like your self are not a risk, merely an irritation or annoyance. :rolleyes:

PvP in itself does not make Open equate to "hard mode".

Holy. Cow.

Take a shieldess T7 and go to the cg system.
Fly in SC for 3 days in open than 3 days in solo. Compare rebuys.
 

Powderpanic

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Hardly - Salt Miners like your self are not a risk, merely an irritation or annoyance. :rolleyes:

PvP in itself does not make Open equate to "hard mode".

Yet clearly Solo and Private group are easier modes because you don't need to be any good at the game to succeed in them

Science huh

Powderpanic
The Voice of Open
 

ALGOMATIC

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I enjoy blockade running too, I'm grateful to those who are willing to give up their time to provide entertainment for me, and I try to be entertaining for them (preferably without getting killed ;)).

But if you had done that run a couple of hours later after they'd all left the game, it would be as safe as solo - although you wouldn't know that until you tried. It's the players that spice things up, not the mode itself. Do you see?

They can recruit players from different time zones and different platforms. They have options.
When you hope to SOLO you become an invisible god mode.
 
How dare you!!

All modes are equal, except Solo...
Because you know it hasn't got Wings or Multicrew...
Wait..... If there are three modes and one isn't equal... Hang on, I think I am onto something...
So All would mean all three were equal in every way... but.. hmmm one is missing some features...
OMG!!! The three modes are not the same...

ALL MODES ARE NOT EQUAL!!

You heard it here!!



Powderpanic
The Voice of Open

Consensus isn't required for a proposal, just present the pros & cons. The number of players affected could go in either column, depending on what they are. FDev know what they are, but if the numbers presented are reasonably in line with what FDev expect (assuming they even read it) they may be more likely to be swayed by the argument. If time was put in to add those figures, it could reasonably be assumed that the rest of the proposal is equally well researched and considered.
 

Powderpanic

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Consensus isn't required for a proposal, just present the pros & cons. The number of players affected could go in either column, depending on what they are. FDev know what they are, but if the numbers presented are reasonably in line with what FDev expect (assuming they even read it) they may be more likely to be swayed by the argument. If time was put in to add those figures, it could reasonably be assumed that the rest of the proposal is equally well researched and considered.

You know what they say about assuming

Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
 
FD are the ones who define how game modes should be considered, not salt miners like yourself :rolleyes:

Sure, but if a significant majority want to change (or tweak) the rules, maybe FDev would do it. Argue your case until the decision is made, but once it's made move forward and review the true impact.

You know what they say about assuming

Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing

But you want the change, right? It works in your favour. If you do a good enough job.
 
And they defined it wrong to cater to bears like yourself by destroying every multiplayer content in this game. RIP Power Play.

So make a good case for the change you want.

RLSG is not the decider, I offered them the role but they turned it down ;) You need to persuade FDev. Not anyone on this thread.
 

ALGOMATIC

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Consensus isn't required for a proposal, just present the pros & cons. The number of players affected could go in either column, depending on what they are. FDev know what they are, but if the numbers presented are reasonably in line with what FDev expect (assuming they even read it) they may be more likely to be swayed by the argument. If time was put in to add those figures, it could reasonably be assumed that the rest of the proposal is equally well researched and considered.

PP is a dead feature that Fdev spent good resources on implementing it. Its enough proof that the modes are unbalanced with 5c and solo undermining. Who in their right mind would stick their head into this trash called PP. Thx god for prismatics.
 
Holy. Cow.

Take a shieldess T7 and go to the cg system.
Fly in SC for 3 days in open than 3 days in solo. Compare rebuys.
Whether PvE or PvP I would not fly a shieldless ship - especially not a T7.

If you can get away with a shield-less min-maxed sheep build in Solo/PG mode then good for you.
 
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