Space pumpkins story so far and a new discovery

Baton

Baton
Space pumpkins short story:

First site known for long time is next to a planetary outpost on HIP 18077 6 C -38.0357 -85.6467

Couple of weeks ago cmdr Clobbertime found a second one on HIP 37610 A 6 C A -1.4054 140.8423

Following his discovery looking in similar systems I found 4 sites on HIP 39768

HIP 39768 A 14 D A -1.8161 -137.3999
HIP 39768 A 14 D A 12.3752 32.0999
HIP 39768 A 14 D A 21.9127 24.5374
HIP 39768 A 14 D A -3.9227 44.1731

Pilot Pirx found couple of sites on Greae Phio QE-Q e5-4021 which is quite interesting as well, being inside a nebula.


Today I found a new site on HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 5.8876 -107.4878
This is again a moon of a moon in B star system orbiting around a brown dwarf.

It is important for more than one reason.

A. I found some bark mounds and geysers on it. Typically we expect bark mounds to be inside or very close to a nebula, but this is 79 ly from the closest one (Pencil Nebula), so maybe we find them in nebulae because we don't look in other places hard enough.

B. I found some brain trees on it, but I do not see any ejecta craters (I cannot guarantee there aren't any, because sometimes they are really hard to see on a system map, and spotting one on the dark side of the moon will be really difficult)
Scratch this one, after searching systematically I found small ejecta crater on the North Pole - https://i.imgur.com/h98lVdS.png

So this is a first body found with all three known forms of life on it that I know of, and a suspect of the fact that brain trees exist on the bodies without visible ejecta craters.

Location of all findings on HIP 41908 AB 1 C A :

4 pumpkins sites:
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 5.8876 -107.4878
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -16.6021 -78.8721
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -19.4121 23.8399
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 20.7471 168.1912

10 bark mounds sites:
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -1.1483 26.5604
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 10.5415 123.8627
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 9.7212 -30.1957
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 23.6257 -66.8651
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 29.8504 -174.1111
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 43.2321 -99.1151
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 54.1618 118.0985
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -36.8202 11.6801
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -41.5307 -156.2499
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -45.6182 37.6057

6 brain trees sites:
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 2.2886 1.8509
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -3.0142 52.7901
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 35.3578 128.8526
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 68.0063 178.7662
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -24.6651 -42.4164
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -39.5813 -167.8378

and 9 volcanic sites:
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 3.4231 -148.7106
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 11.2331 -108.0491
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 13.6156 -131.5787
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 18.5451 81.3108
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 34.8998 -173.9953
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 33.0781 -127.6561
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 49.2529 55.2995
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 52.1445 -154.3961
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 60.6277 26.5845
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -26.4253 -87.7197
HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -42.8693 -172.5587

three permanent outcrops at:
-1 // 31 , 0 // -16 and -21 //97

I did scan the area between 90 degrees North and 19 degrees South so far. I think I am keen to try some other system for example with A star, if I manage to locate suitable candidate in the area.


I was asked how the POI looks like, so it is initially same shrinking POI as with the Brain Trees, but at the end stays slightly bigger, so when you are horizontal above the site and your sensors are in linear mode and max range it looks like this:

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So far we have 6 systems, all are B class main star orbited by a brown dwarf, and pumpkins have been found on volcanic moons orbiting that dwarf. All moons fall within Brain Trees temperatures (between 201 and 499K), but it may not be relevant, nobody I know of surveyed similar bodies with different temperature range.

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Zenith

Zenith
Brain trees are found near Guardian locations and HIP 41908 is within the Guardian zone, so that makes some sense at least.
Interesting about the pumpkins and bark mound finds.
 

Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
Can we maybe collect more data for them? Like temperature, body type, galactic height and positions, class of stars, sort of volcanic activity, etc....

I'm sure we can find more but we should collect the conditions and maybe try how wide we can stretch the conditions.
Right now i'm prospecting a moon in the orbit of an Y-dwarf with 380 kelvin and silicate volcanism, but they are orbiting an A-class star B-class star at 2500ls distance. Maybe i can find them there too but we need more data ;) :p
 
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Baton

Baton
Lucius-Darcia said:
Can we maybe collect more data for them? Like temperature, body type, galactic height and positions, class of stars, sort of volcanic activity, etc....

I'm sure we can find more but we should collect the conditions and maybe try how wide we can stretch the conditions.
Right now i'm prospecting a moon in the orbit of an Y-dwarf with 380 kelvin and silicate volcanism, but they are orbiting an A-class star at 2500ls distance. Maybe i can find them there too but we need more data ;) :p
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Well, of course you can collect the data, I gave you exact name of the body, so what more you need to look on EDSM? :)

I think searching on A class is a great idea, what method are you using?

I am gliding along latitudes trying to be less than 30km apart, as my suspected big POI diameter is 28km. I do start with the equator and go up to 20 degrees north and south from that.
 
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Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
Baton said:
Well, of course you can collect the data, I gave you exact name of the body, so what more you need to look on EDSM? :)

I think searching on A class is a great idea, what method are you using?

I am gliding along latitudes trying to be less than 30km apart, as my suspected big POI diameter is 28km. I do start with the equator and go up to 20 degrees north and south from that.
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I don't search for systems on EDSM but i try to find them on my way. ATM i'm staying at 5/-5 latitude and fly 90° in glide, Nose down until reaching around 30km and than nose up at 10° for good speed but not too much related to the ground.
Sadly i haven't found anything yet but Brain Trees, but i have still hope to find myself some Space Pumpkins :D

The data we should collect should be for the reason to have some indicators. so if a body has for example more than 600k that we know we can skip it without doubt. or if it has the wrong sort of volcanism, it can safe a lot of time if we find the conditions for the Pumpkins.

I have to correct:
The system where i am atm has a B-class star, maybe i had one or two drinks too much last night when i've logged out :D
 
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Baton

Baton
Lucius-Darcia said:
The data we should collect should be for the reason to have some indicators. so if a body has for example more than 600k that we know we can skip it without doubt. or if it has the wrong sort of volcanism, it can safe a lot of time if we find the conditions for the Pumpkins.
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People who search now, will say what are the criteria for pumpkins, so far we found 5 systems so nobody is certain where to look :)
As for volcanism I would say any type will do, but as I searched zero bodies without volcanism, than this is just a blind guess.
 

Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
the previous thesis was, that it has to be a silicate based volcanism. The experience, that every sort of volcanism will do it is a huge step forward [up]
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Baton

Baton
Lucius-Darcia said:
the previous thesis was, that it has to be a silicate based volcanism. The experience, that every sort of volcanism will do it is a huge step forward [up]
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First known one is - HIP 18077 6 C -38.0357 -85.6467 - minor rocky magma, so not sure who was saying about silicates :)
 

Pilot Pirx

Pilot Pirx
Spectacular find!
And more hopefully useful information about the pumpkins and the trees.
Congratulations! [smile]

I'm trying it in a class F star system right now... to yet without success ...
 

Baton

Baton
Pilot Pirx said:
Congratulations! [smile]

I'm trying it in a class F star system right now... to yet without success ...
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Thx.
I think you are doing the right thing. Nobody ever found the pink worms yet, but I looked at the trailer, and very likely it is similar combination that is required, just with a different main star so good luck, and let us know :)

BTW - found another system:


HIP 42003 3 D A -13.3464 -171.3861

My Life Hunter almost too well deserves the name I gave him :)

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CMDR MadRaptor

CMDR MadRaptor
Aweseom! Awesome! Awesome! I still can't give you rep but have tons of virtual rep. This little world is the perfect place and came at the perfect time for me to get all the remaining footage needed to finish my Geologic Short Film.
 

Baton

Baton
CMDR MadRaptor said:
Aweseom! Awesome! Awesome! I still can't give you rep but have tons of virtual rep. This little world is the perfect place and came at the perfect time for me to get all the remaining footage needed to finish my Geologic Short Film.
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You are welcome.
Keep in mind that on last two I only scanned a small area, and stopped after finding one site only. I am sure there is more than that, so any help is highly appreciated.

On HIP 42003 I scanned only latitudes -12, -9, -6, -3, 0, 4, 8

On HIP 41908 I scanned only latitudes 10, 7, 4, 0 , -3.5 , -7, -10

(initially I was scanning 4 degrees apart, but then realized it is bit too wide and I can miss the site, so started going closer. 4 degrees is OK for body of around 400km, but those are closer to 500km)
 
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Baton

Baton
Update to OP with two more sites on HIP 41908.

Tried two other good candidates with no luck:

HIP 42459 7 E A - 400 ly from Sol - scanned between 28N and 33S
Shrogaae HA-A e2274 A 7 E A - 21000ly from Sol - scanned so far between 20N and 20S
 

Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Decided to take a trip out to the geological wonder that is HIP 41908 AB 1 C A.

First stop, studying the strange growths that can form on Pumpkins ...

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Hmm, very tempted to chop that last one up and pop it into a curry.
 
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Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Last photo .. I called this one "Grey Matter".

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Heading back to the bubble now - it's been fun, thanks for finding and reporting on these things Baton!
 
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Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
Heyho,
i know it might by a little bit too early, but i have found in Beta 3.3 my very first Space Pumpkins and the conditions are matching again ;)

Sorry for the german language on the Screenshots :p
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AAAND i think we can spread the conditions finally :D

I've found them also (Beta 3.3) on a rocky moon with 339K temperature, orbiting a class 3 Gas Giant, orbiting an L-class Star, orbiting a B-class star ;)

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It's getting intresting now. Found them on a rocky body with 418K temperature, orbiting an L-class star, orbiting the B-class star. The conditions are more than different than before

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This System is FULL of spacepumpkins :O

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And here is my confirmation within the brand new Codex :D
So the name isn't Space Pumpkins anymore but Hydria :( :S

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