It can't destroy your speaker, the cone site in the middle of the range of movement at rest, if you reverse the polarity the cone just starts moving in the opposite direction initially so instead of going forwards backwards forwards, it goes backwards forwards backwards.
Hardware & Technical PSA: HDMI audio is amazing
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It can't destroy your speaker, the cone site in the middle of the range of movement at rest, if you reverse the polarity the cone just starts moving in the opposite direction initially so instead of going forwards backwards forwards, it goes backwards forwards backwards.
You are talking about chinch cables. I am talking about the direct connection to the speaker which is often handled via a pair of cables. Most Hifi speakers are connected directly rather than using chinch.
Found the post that quotes devs about hdmi:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/3kp3tx/how_to_best_enjoy_audio_in_elite_dangerous/
So after the great AMA that the audio team did recently, I've been looking at how to get the best out of the audio. One of the guys made a particular comment in using HDMI audio if possible, so as a result I've been looking at home cinema style AV receivers, as to...
So, hdmi>>spdif is from ED devs, not sure if we can find the original stream to hunt who said it, but I think it is pretty official, even if not in response to this thread.
@babelfisch:
in analog age again not sure how switching between plus and minus will impact quality, unless you haven't attached them properly, as Dural mentioned all you do is change polarity, they don't transfer magical -half of mp3 encoded in red/black
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/3kp3tx/how_to_best_enjoy_audio_in_elite_dangerous/
So after the great AMA that the audio team did recently, I've been looking at how to get the best out of the audio. One of the guys made a particular comment in using HDMI audio if possible, so as a result I've been looking at home cinema style AV receivers, as to...
So, hdmi>>spdif is from ED devs, not sure if we can find the original stream to hunt who said it, but I think it is pretty official, even if not in response to this thread.
@babelfisch:
in analog age again not sure how switching between plus and minus will impact quality, unless you haven't attached them properly, as Dural mentioned all you do is change polarity, they don't transfer magical -half of mp3 encoded in red/black
Yes, that was probably exaggerated
Again, if your speaker goes inwards rather than outwards it has a very notable effect on the sound quality...
B-b-but... all you do is switch left and right, just like Dural noted, in analog times switching red and black is like plugging left to right, not gonna break the speakers, they will just play the other way around. It's not hdmi age where you are sending proprietary formats over proprietary cable format (why hdmi cables cost extra 20-30 bucks on top any usb), how 5.1/7.1 gets on top of that no idea, but believe me having red/black switched does nothing except switch left and right, got experience with that
Edit: more interested if someone can fish out who it was on or before 12th Sept 2015 that made a comment:
One of the guys made a particular comment in using HDMI audio if possible
As that person can probably explain what is happening with ED audio
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I've decided a forum is a bad medium to have a technical discussion about phase of speakers
I've decided a forum is a bad medium to have a technical discussion about phase of speakers
Why not give it a try at least. I'm not sure if hdmi vs spdif discussion in context of ED will be the right place for it, but give us your thoughts (unless you also claim that connecting red cable to black makes sound any different except left-right switch)
Both SPDIF an HDMI support stereo PCM, only HDMI will support 5.1 PCM, 5.1 over SPDIF is compressed. But if you're running your setup in stereo then unless the application is always compressing stereo over SPDIF (in case people are using 5.1 over SPDIF) it really shouldn't sound very different. I can understand why they would recommend 5.1 over HDMI, it's not compressed.
HDMI will support a higher bit rate but doubt that FD are using source audio with a bit rate higher than SPDIF will support so that shouldn't make any difference and even if you are upsampling over HDMI t can't sound "better" than the source files at it's original bit rate.
I expect someone makes an app you can use to see what the audio stream bit rates are, I don't know of one though.
Again, left and right is not related to + and - AT ALL. You have two cables for left and right and each consists of another two cables for + and - resulting in 4 cables. If you twist + and - you'll end up with crappy sound.
Please just do that test and plug your stereo speakers into hdmi, then explain, as from what you wrote it would be just... compression? I'm pretty sure it's more as you get a full range of extra details (unless very aggressive compression maybe????). Gonna try to find that 2015 audio AMA from FD as we would know who was suggesting hdmi for audio to see if they can shine more light on the details, compression seems not enough to explain how much difference there is
No, I mean old analog red and black, only two cables, and if you plug them into correct sockets you get left and right channels properly, if the other way around, left and right is switched, no idea what is the setup with 4 cables, never used that
If your left and right speakers are mixed up, your music will still come out in wonderful stereo (providing of course that you’re listening to a stereo track) it’s just that what should be coming out of the left-hand speaker is actually coming out of the right-hand speaker and vice versa.
You have one cable for left and one cable for right. Each cable consists of two wires (plus and minus). If you are using a chinch cable it gets connected the right way automatically due to the way it is build (the same is true for 3.5/6.3mm jacks if they are stereo). If you are using a speaker that isn't connected via chinch you need to connect them manually (unless you are using XLR or something else). In that case it's possible to connect them the wrong way by twisting them which is what we are talking about.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT MIXING LEFT AND RIGHT SPEAKERS.
Sorry for shouting.
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I guess you could use something instead of this:
like this:
[paint image of someone crossing two cables over a crushed can of beer]
But it never occured to me that you (and you are right you could in fact switch the innermost part of the picture above with the exterior, if you build your own cables in your own garage) would ever do that, such cables cost 2$ maximum and I have like 3 spares, so who would ever build their own and screw that on the way???
Black and red isn't left and right. You have a black and red pair for right and a black and red pair for left. if you switch the + and - round on the left speaker it won't make the sound change in the other one will it? You'll end up with right channel in phase and the left channel out of phase which makes it sound bad.Edit: ok, now I understand. Your speakers have a single plug per speaker.
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Yes, apparently people can switch +/- of one cable, or so it seems from what babelfisch describes, still trying to wrap my head around it
Edit: don't get me wrong, DIY is cool and all, but if you are DIYing your own cables then accidental switch between + and minus is not really an option or you're 'doing it wrong yourself'
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OK, got it, you have one wire with a single plug per speaker not separate + and - plugs.
you can set for the highest playback sample rate in windows.