[WIP] Engineering Materials Quick Guide - please help me finish it.

Yosharian · Apr 27, 2018

Hello all, here is a guide I am working on. I could use some assistance finishing it.

Currently I have most of the sections filled out. Mostly I need suggestions on better ways to obtain the materials that are currently listed as 'trade up' or USS farms (ugh).

Also, if you find some incorrect data, then let me know either in this thread or via PM.

The goal of this guide is to give a non-RNG-based method to find any engineering material. Some of them are quite grindy, but they're all non-RNG where possible. The guide also shows what materials are used for in engineering recipes and experimental effects, so you can make an informed decision as to which materials you can trade safely, and which you want to keep.

Here are the details for each method listed.

1) Dav's Hope: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ED-List-of-Materials-at-DAV-S-Hope(Pictorial) This is an abandoned base that contains materials you can simply scoop up using your SRV's cargo rack. The base also has a scannable data point.

2) Isinor: obtain the Isinor permit by doing data missions from any station owned by the faction 'Chapter of Isinor'. Once you have the permit, enter the system and head to 'Unauthorised Installation'. There you will find two rival gangs fighting it out with Cutters, Corvettes, Condas and other ships. You can scan these ships to get scan data drops, then log out and log back in, and repeat the process ad infinitum.

3) Distribution Centres: Search for systems in the OUTBREAK state. In these systems you can sometimes find a 'Distribution Centre'. Enter this instance to find many ships making deliveries to larger ships, then hyperspacing out. Scan their wakes. I recommend you bring a larger scanner or one with the fast scan engineering upgrade. Grind this for as long as you can stand, because Distribution Centres can sometimes be hard to find.

4) Shaw Prospect: this is an easy way to get hold of certain data such as Modified Embedded Firmware, although it's extremely grindy. Simply run between all the data points, scanning them. You can run this on any type of settlement base, this is just one easy example. Shaw Prospect is located in the NEBTETE system at body A 3 A (near Korzun Gateway on the system map).

5) USS Farms: these are the worst by far, the idea is to enter a system in the BOOM state, fly into deep space, then wait for High Grade Emissions to spawn. Enter them, and take the items. Do not bother with anything that's not a High Grade Emission. There are many USS farming guides out there so I won't bother going into detail about it.

6) Conflict Zones: I have an existing guide here: https://goo.gl/vqM9AK which explains how to find Thermic Alloys reliably. PROBLEM: it appears Galnet no longer lists current wars. Anyone have a reliable way to determine what systems have conflict zones in them?

Material/Rarity	Method	Uses
Emission Data
1 Exceptional Scrambled Emission Data	DAV'S HOPE	Efficient weapons, SCB Specialised	EXP: Scramble Spectrum
2 Irregular Emission Data	TRADE DOWN FROM ISINOR	Efficient weapons, Low emissions PP	EXP: Dispersal Field
3 Unexpected Emission Data	ISINOR	Efficient weapons, Long range weapons, Low Emissions PP, Long Range Sensors, Clean Thrusters	EXP: Emissive Munitions
4 Decoded Emission Data	ISINOR	Long range scanners/sensors, Low emissions PP, Clean thrusters	EXP: Force block, Smart rounds
5 Abnormal Compact Emissions Data	ISINOR	Long Range Scanners/sensors, Clean thrusters
Wake Scans
1 Atypical Disrupted Wake Echoes	DIST. CENTRES	Increase range FSD, Interdictor	EXP: Inertial Impact	EXP: Deep Charge, Double Braced, Mass Manager, Stripped Down, Thermal Spread
2 Anomalous FSD Telemetry	DIST. CENTRES	FSD Interdictor Long Range	EXP: FSD Interrupt
3 Strange Wake Solutions	DIST. CENTRES	FSD Increased Range, Interdictor Expanded Arc, Long Range	EXP: FSD Interrupt, Shift-lock Canister
4 Eccentric Hyperspace Trajectories	DIST. CENTRES	FSD Increased Range, Interdictor Expanded Arc, Long Range		EXP: Deep Charge, Mass Manager
5 Datamined Wake Exceptions	DIST. CENTRES	FSD Increased Range
Shield Data
1 Distorted Shield Cycle Recordings	ISINOR	Shield booster HD, Shield Gen ELP, KR, TR	EXP: Inertial Impact, Screening Shell	EXP: Double Braced
2 Inconsistent Shield Soak Analysis	ISINOR	Shield booster HD, Shield Gen ELP, KR, TR		EXP: Blast Block, Flow Control
3 Untypical Shield Scans	ISINOR	Shield booster HD, Resistant, Shield Gen Resistant, ELP	EXP: Scramble Spectrum, Super Penetrator	EXP: Super Capacitors
4 Aberrant Shield Pattern Analysis	ISINOR	Shield booster Resistant	EXP: Mass Lock Munition, Overload Munitions, Phasing Seq	EXP: Force Block, Multi-Weave
5 Peculiar Shield Frequency Data	ISINOR		EXP: Regeneration Seq
Encryption Files
1 Unusual Encrypted Files	DAV'S HOPE	FSD Interdictor Expanded Arc, Long Range
2 Tagged Encryption Codes	DAV'S HOPE	FSD Interdictor Expanded Arc, Long Range	EXP: Overload Munitions
3 Open Symmetric Keys	SHAW SETTLEMENT	Scanners Fast Scan, Interdictor Long Range	EXP: Feedback Cascade
4 Atypical Encryption Archives	?	Scanners Fast Scan, Interdictor Long Range
5 Adaptive Encryptors Capture	?	Scanners Fast Scan, Interdictor Long Range	EXP: Target Lock Breaker
Data Archives
1 Anomalous Bulk Scan Data	TRADE DOWN FROM DAV'S HOPE	Interdictor Long Range, Specialized Power Distributor	EXP: Penetrator Payload	EXP: Thermo Block
2 Unidentified Scan Archives	TRADE DOWN FROM DAV'S HOPE	Interdictor Long Range, Specialized Power Distributor		EXP: Force Block
3 Classified Scan Databanks	DAV'S HOPE	Scanners Wide Angle, Interdictor Longe Range, Specialized Power Distributor, Sensors Wide Angle	EXP: Reverberating Cascade, Smart Rounds
4 Divergent Scan Data	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Scanners Wide Angle, Interdictor Expanded Capture Arc
5 Classified Scan Fragment	?	Scanners Wide Angle, Interdictor Expanded Capture Arc
Encoded Firmware
1 Specialised Legacy Firmware	DAV'S HOPE	Rapid Fire Weapons, Charge/Capacity Power Distributor, Specialised SCB, Thruster Clean/Dirty
2 Modified Consumer Firmware	DAV'S HOPE	Charge/Capacity Power Distributor, Clean/Dirty Thrusters, KR Shield Generator, Long Range Weapons, Rapid Fire Weapons, Short Range Weapons	EXP: Screening Shell
3 Cracked Industrial Firmware	DAV'S HOPE	Charge/Capacity Power Distributor, Dirty Thrusters, Long Range Weapons, Short Range Weapons, SCB Specialized
4 Security Firmware Patch	SHAW SETTLEMENT	Double Shot Frag	EXP: Smart Rounds, Target Lock Breaker	EXP: Drag Drives, Drive Distributors, Flow Control, Super Conduits
5 Modified Embedded Firmware	SHAW SETTLEMENT	Overcharged Weapons, Double Shot Frag	EXP: Plasma Slug, Concordant Seq	EXP: Flow Control
Chemical
1 Chemical Storage Units	TRADE DOWN FROM DAV'S HOPE		EXP: Corrosive Shell	EXP: Boss Cells, Recycling Cells, Double Braced, Stripped Down
2 Chemical Processors	DAV'S HOPE	FSD Increased Range, PD Charge Enhanced
3 Chemical Distillery	DAV'S HOPE	FSD Increased Range, PD Charge Enhanced	EXP: Ion Disruption
4 Chemical Manipulators	DAV'S HOPE	FSD Increased Range, PD Charge Enhanced, PP Overcharged	EXP: High Yield Shell
5 Pharmaceutical Isolators	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Dirty Thrusters
Thermic
1 Tempered Alloys	TRADE DOWN FROM CZ		EXP: Shift-lock Canister, Thermal Conduit	EXP: Angled Plating
2 Heat Resistant Ceramics	TRADE DOWN FROM CZ		EXP: Thermal Shock	EXP: Blast Block, Cluster Capacitors, Double Braced, Flow Control, Stripped Down, Super Conduits
3 Precipitated Alloys	TRADE DOWN FROM CZ	Rapid Fire Weapons, Rapid Charge SCB, ELP Shield Gen	EXP: Corrosive Shell, Thermal Vent
4 Thermic Alloys	CONFLICT ZONES	Rapid Fire/Long Range Weapons, ELP Shield Gen, Rapid Charge SCB		EXP: Reflective Plating
5 Military Grade Alloys	TRADE UP FROM CZ	Lightweight Armor/HRP, ELP Shield Gen
Heat
1 Heat Conduction Wiring	DAV'S HOPE	Armor/HRP Thermal Resist, Overcharged PP, Thermal Resist Shield Booster, Reinforced Thrusters	EXP: Force Shell, Incendiary Rounds, Thermal Cascade	EXP: Layered Plating, Reflective Plating
2 Heat Dispersion Plate	DAV'S HOPE	Efficient Weapons, Faster Boot Seq FSD, Overcharged PP, Rapid Fire Weapons, Reinforced Thrusters, Thermal Resist Booster/Armor/HRP	EXP: Radiant Canister, Thermal Conduit	EXP: Blast Block, Reflective Plating
3 Heat Exchangers	DAV'S HOPE	Efficient Weapons, Faster Boot Seq FSD, Low Emissions PP, Reinforced Thrusters, Thermal Resist Booster/Armor/HRP	EXP: Emissive Munitions, Plasma Slug
4 Heat Vanes	DAV'S HOPE	Efficient Weapons, Faster Boost Seq FSD, Low Emissions PP, Thermal Resist Armor/HRP		EXP: Thermal Spread, Thermo Block
5 Proto Heat Radiators	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Efficient Weapons, Low Emissions PP, Thermal Resist Armor/HRP
Conductive
1 Basic Conductors	TRADE DOWN FROM DAV'S HOPE
2 Conductive Components	DAV'S HOPE	Blast Resist Shield Booster, Clean Thrusters, Specialized PD, Focused Lasers, Lightweight Everything, Overcharged Everything, Reinforced Shield Gen, Res Aug Booster, Specialised SCB	EXP: Dispersal Field, Thermal Shock
3 Conductive Ceramics	DAV'S HOPE	Clean Thrusters, Focused Lasers, Lightweight Everything, Overcharged Everything, Reinforced Shield Gen, Res Aug Booster		EXP: Thermo Block
4 Conductive Polymers	DAV'S HOPE	Long Range Weapons, Overcharged Everything, Reinforced Shield Gen, Short Range Weapons	EXP: Multi-servos, Thermal vent	EXP: Flow Control, Hi-Cap, Lo-Draw
5 Biotech Conductors	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Long Range Weapons, Short Range Weapons
Mechanical Components
1 Mechanical Scrap	DAV'S HOPE	Ammo Cap Utility, Expanded Cap Arc Interdictor, High Cap Weapons, Rapid Fire Weapons, Wide Angle Scanners	EXP: Dazzle Shell, Force Shell, High Yield Shell, Multi-servos, Oversized, Screening Shell, Smart Rounds	EXP: Double Braced, Flow Control
2 Mechanical Equipment	DAV'S HOPE	Dirty Thrusters, Doubleshot Frag, Exp Cap Arc Interdictor, High Cap Weapons, Rapid Fire Weapons, Wide Angle Scanners	EXP: Auto-loader, Emissive Munitions, FSD Interrupt, Mass Lock Munition	EXP: Deep Plating
3 Mechanical Components	DAV'S HOPE	Dirty Thrusters, Doubleshot Frag, Exp Cap Arc Interdictor, High Cap Weapons, Rapid Fire Weapons, Reinforced Shield Gen, Wide Angle Scanners	EXP: Auto-loader, Oversized, Penetrator Payload
4 Configurable Components	DAV'S HOPE	Dirty Thrusters, Doubleshot Frag, Rapid Fire Weapons, Reinforced Shield Gen, Short Range Weapons	EXP: FSD Interrupt, Multi-servos, Phasing Sequence, Reverberating Cascade	EXP: Double Braced, Recycling Cell
5 Improvised Components	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Reinforced Shield Gen
Capacitors
1 Grid Resistors	DAV'S HOPE	FSD Faster Boot Seq, Exp Cap Arc Interdictor, Faster Boot Seq FSD, Shield Booster HD, KR, SCB Rapid Charge	EXP: Drag Munitions	EXP: Double Braced, Monstered PP, Stripped Down, Thermal Spread
2 Hybrid Capacitors	DAV'S HOPE	Charge Enhanced/Weapon-Focused PD, Faster Boot Seq FSD, Shield Booster HD KR, Long Range Scanners/Sensors, Rapid Charge SCB	EXP: Dazzle Shell, Dispersal Field, Thermal Cascade	EXP: Double Braced, Drag Drives, Drive Distributors, Flow Control, Stripped Down, Thermal Spread
3 Electrochemical Arrays	DAV'S HOPE	Specialized PD, Faster Boot Seq FSD, Shield Booster HD, Long Range Scanner/Sensor, Overcharged Weapons, Rapid Charge SCB, Short Range Weapon	EXP: Ion Disruption, Penetrator Munitions
4 Polymer Capacitors	DAV'S HOPE	Specialized PD, Focused Lasers, Shield Booster HD, Long Range Scanner/Sensor, Overcharged Weapons		EXP: Boss Cells, Monstered PP
5 Military Supercapacitors	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Specialized/Capacity PD, Focused Lasers, High Cap Weapons
Shielding
1 Worn Shield Emitters	DAV'S HOPE	Shielded Everything, Armored PP	EXP: Dispersal Field	EXP: Double Braced, Fast Charge, Force Block, Hi-Cap, Lo-Draw, Multi-weave, Stripped Down, Thermo Block
2 Shield Emitters	DAV'S HOPE	Armored PP, Heavy Duty Armor/HRP, Reinforced Utilities, Shielded Everything, Sturdy Weapons	EXP: Feedback Cascade	EXP: Double Braced
3 Shielding Sensors	DAV'S HOPE	Armored PP, Heavy Duty Armor/HRP, Shielded Everything	EXP: Regeneration Sequence	EXP: Force Block, Layered Plating
4 Compound Shielding	DAV'S HOPE	Armored PP, Heavy Duty Armor/HRP, Reinforced Thrusters, Shielded Everything		EXP: Fast Charge
5 Imperial Shielding	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	FSD Shielded, Res Aug Boosters, Thrusters Reinforced
Composites
1 Compact Composites	TRADE DOWN FROM DAV'S HOPE			EXP: Angled Plating, Deep Plating, Double Braced, Reflective Plating, Super Capacitors
2 Filament Composites	TRADE DOWN FROM DAV'S HOPE		EXP: Feedback Cascade, Overload Munitions, Reverberating Cascade
3 High Density Composites	DAV'S HOPE	Armored PP, Doubleshot Frag, Armored/HRP HD KR Lightweight, High Cap Weapons, Reinforced Everything, Shielded Everything, Sturdy Weapons	EXP: Auto Loader, Mass Lock Munition, Thermal Cascade	EXP: Angled Plating, Layered Plating
4 Proprietary Composites	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Armored PP, Armored/HRP HD KR Lightweight, High Cap Weapons, High charge PD, Reinforced Thrusters, Shielded Everything		EXP: Double Braced
5 Core Dynamics Composites	FARM USS	Armored PP, Armor/HRP HD KR, Shielded Everything
Crystals
1 Crystal Shards	DAV'S HOPE		EXP: Scramble Spectrum
2 Flawed Focus Crystals	DAV'S HOPE	Fast Scanner	EXP: Thermal Shock/Vent, Inertial Impact	EXP: Double Braced, Fast Charge, Hi-Cap, Lo-Draw, Multi-Weave, Stripped Down, Thermo Block
3 Focus Crystals	DAV'S HOPE	Shield Booster Res Aug/Resistant, Fast Scanner, Shield Gen Resist, Long Range Weapons	EXP: Concordant Seq, Phasing Seq, Multi-servos	EXP: Flow Control
4 Refined Focus Crystals	DAV'S HOPE	Shield Booster Res Aug/Resistant, Fast Scanner, Focused Lasers, Shield Gen Resist, Long Range Weapons	EXP: Plasma Slug, Regeneration Seq, Super Penetrator
5 Exquisite Focus Crystals	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Charge Enhanced PD, Shield Booster Resist
Alloys
1 Salvaged Alloys	DAV'S HOPE	Resistant armors/HRP, kinetic resistant booster, lightweight weapons, utilities	EXP: Shift-lock Canister	EXP: Stripped Down
2 Galvanising Alloys	DAV'S HOPE	Resistant armors/HRP, kinetic resistant booster	EXP: Penetrator Munitions	EXP: Deep Charge, Double Braced, Mass Manager, Stripped Down, Thermal Spread
3 Phase Alloys	DAV'S HOPE	Resistant armors/HRP, kinetic resistant booster, lightweight weapons, utilities	EXP: Force Shell, Incendiary Rounds, Radiant Canister
4 Proto Light Alloys	TRADE UP FROM DAV'S HOPE	Lightweight weapons, utilities	EXP: High Yield Shell, Super Penetrator	EXP: Reflective Plating, Stripped Down
5 Proto Radolic Alloys	FARM USS	Lightweight weapons, utilities

I hope someone finds this useful, it took me a long time to organise this information.

Frenotx · Apr 27, 2018

Nice work. Bookmarking this thread.

M. Grey · Apr 27, 2018

Great guide!

Ian Doncaster · Apr 27, 2018

Biotech Conductors, Exquisite Focus Crystals, Modified Embedded Firmware can all be obtained five at a time from missions (when Allied, if you can get Elite-ranked missions of that type). Good types for this would be
- wing assassinations
- wing cargo
- solo high-value cargo deliveries (Extraction economies are best)
- surface scan missions
- long-range passenger missions
As you get five at a time, and some of these missions are pretty easy to complete quickly (especially the solo high value cargo ones) this is likely to be much quicker than trading up from other items. (I can recommend plenty of good locations for these missions in or around Colonia ... you'll have to find your own in the Sol bubble)

Proto Light Alloys, rather than trading up, just go to a HazRES or a CZ for a bit - so many different high-end combat ships drop them in decent quantities that you won't be short of them. Same with Refined Focus Crystals. This will also get you a decent supply of Proprietary Composites and in a CZ also Polymer Capacitors.

Classified Scan Databanks you can get from scanning authority ships. The catch is that to scan an authority ship you must be at best Neutral with the controlling faction - if you're Cordial or above they come pre-scanned and you can't get the data.

G5 manufactured in general can be obtained from Anaconda kills, though you don't get to choose the sort. Stacking Elite data courier missions and only completing the ones which don't attract enemies can get you a constant stream of Anacondas to kill.

Yosharian · Apr 27, 2018

Ian Doncaster said:
Biotech Conductors, Exquisite Focus Crystals, Modified Embedded Firmware can all be obtained five at a time from missions (when Allied, if you can get Elite-ranked missions of that type). Good types for this would be
- wing assassinations
- wing cargo
- solo high-value cargo deliveries (Extraction economies are best)
- surface scan missions
- long-range passenger missions
As you get five at a time, and some of these missions are pretty easy to complete quickly (especially the solo high value cargo ones) this is likely to be much quicker than trading up from other items. (I can recommend plenty of good locations for these missions in or around Colonia ... you'll have to find your own in the Sol bubble)

Proto Light Alloys, rather than trading up, just go to a HazRES or a CZ for a bit - so many different high-end combat ships drop them in decent quantities that you won't be short of them. Same with Refined Focus Crystals. This will also get you a decent supply of Proprietary Composites and in a CZ also Polymer Capacitors.

Classified Scan Databanks you can get from scanning authority ships. The catch is that to scan an authority ship you must be at best Neutral with the controlling faction - if you're Cordial or above they come pre-scanned and you can't get the data.

G5 manufactured in general can be obtained from Anaconda kills, though you don't get to choose the sort. Stacking Elite data courier missions and only completing the ones which don't attract enemies can get you a constant stream of Anacondas to kill.

non-RNG sources are the only ones I'm willing to put in the guide.

That means mission rewards aren't acceptable.
Proto Light Alloys available from CZ - that's a good point, probably easier to farm them that way.
CSD from authority ships: again, this is too RNG, unless you can recommend a place that has static authority ships that aren't at risk of being allied to CMDRs.
Finding Condas to kill generally is fine, but I'd rather have non-RNG solutions. The CZ guide I posted does provide a way to find easy-to-kill Condas, though.

Thanks for your suggestions.

dognosh · Apr 27, 2018

+1 rep for your efforts. Will compose another reply with some stuff for you in a few minutes.

I do have 2 suggestions for you,if it helps :
Use Google Sheets, much more user friendly than the forum tables.
Once you have enough people noticing your thread & contributing, you could ask it to be moved to the GUIDES section. That way it won't get lost after 1 day.

dognosh · Apr 27, 2018

Addendum to your #2 --->>> ABNORMAL COMPACT EMISSION DATA : Convoy Beacon (a permanent POI) at the planet Maodun in Isinor system, scan the 3 ships,log, repeat. Takes 30 secs per run.

From my own private sheets(you need to sort it) :

CORE DYNAMICS COMPOSITES USS HGE BOOM FED and USS HGE Outbreak FED and USS HGE CIVIL UNREST REF/IND
IMPERIAL SHIELDING USS HGE IMPERIAL WAR
IMPROVISED COMPONENTS USS HGE CIVIL UNREST REF/IND(or just IND ? )
MILITARY GRADE ALLOYS USS HGE IMPERIAL WAR
MILITARY SUPERCAPS USS HGE IMPERIAL WAR
PHARMACEUTICAL ISOLATORS USS HGE Outbreak IMPERIAL FEDERATION
PROPRIETARY COMPOSITES USS HGE BOOM FED and USS HGE Outbreak FED
PROTO HEAT RADIATOR USS HGE BOOM ANARCHY IMPERIAL
PROTO LIGHT/RADIOTIC ALLOY USS HGE BOOM ANARCHY
THERMIC ALLOYS CZ & ENCODED EMISSIONS

(these HGE items are a work in progress and not complete, I just log it when I find one of the above in a different system type)

Yosharian · Apr 27, 2018

dognosh said:
Addendum to your #2 --->>> ABNORMAL COMPACT EMISSION DATA : Convoy Beacon (a permanent POI) at the planet Maodun in Isinor system, scan the 3 ships,log, repeat. Takes 30 secs per run.

From my own private sheets(you need to sort it) :

CORE DYNAMICS COMPOSITES USS HGE BOOM FED and USS HGE Outbreak FED and USS HGE CIVIL UNREST REF/IND
IMPERIAL SHIELDING USS HGE IMPERIAL WAR
IMPROVISED COMPONENTS USS HGE CIVIL UNREST REF/IND(or just IND ? )
MILITARY GRADE ALLOYS USS HGE IMPERIAL WAR
MILITARY SUPERCAPS USS HGE IMPERIAL WAR
PHARMACEUTICAL ISOLATORS USS HGE Outbreak IMPERIAL FEDERATION
PROPRIETARY COMPOSITES USS HGE BOOM FED and USS HGE Outbreak FED
PROTO HEAT RADIATOR USS HGE BOOM ANARCHY IMPERIAL
PROTO LIGHT/RADIOTIC ALLOY USS HGE BOOM ANARCHY
THERMIC ALLOYS CZ & ENCODED EMISSIONS

(these HGE items are a work in progress and not complete, I just log it when I find one of the above in a different system type)

> Convoy Beacon (a permanent POI) at the planet Maodun in Isinor system

Yes, I've been meaning to add this in. It doesn't work for me because I'm allied with the ships ;-)

As for USSs, I'm not a big fan of them and really I'm looking for alternatives rather than USS data. Thanks anyway, though.

Ian Doncaster · Apr 27, 2018

Yosharian said:
non-RNG sources are the only ones I'm willing to put in the guide.

That means mission rewards aren't acceptable.

Proto Light Alloys available from CZ - that's a good point, probably easier to farm them that way.

CSD from authority ships: again, this is too RNG, unless you can recommend a place that has static authority ships that aren't at risk of being allied to CMDRs.

Finding Condas to kill generally is fine, but I'd rather have non-RNG solutions. The CZ guide I posted does provide a way to find easy-to-kill Condas, though.

Authority ships: it won't be the same system for any particular commander, but supercruise has plenty of authority Anacondas. Pick any high security system with neutral rep, scan in supercruise, then drop to normal space and re-enter supercruise to get some fresh ones. Checkpoint POIs in Lockdown state might be good, too, perhaps? Some surface settlements have security ships on landing pads, so relog-and-rescan there? (I think that's where my only CSDs came from)
(To be honest, I'd just get MEF from missions and trade across if I needed large quantities of CSDs, because that would probably be faster)

Mission rewards: I would view these as *far* less random than some other things. In the right system(s) there is no shortage of these missions, and they guarantee the particular materials ... whereas a "distribution centre" signal source you could in theory scan wakes for an hour and get no DWEs, or hang around in supercruise and find no HGEs, or scan Isinor for ages and not get particular data types.

Oh, on the "finding wars" question... use of the Civil War+War state filter on Galmap will find *some* of them - the ones where the system controlling faction is involved. If you're not picky about the sort of war, that's probably good enough, though there's likely a war between two non-controlling factions closer than that. No easy way to find those other than by checking the individual system maps, checking the local faction status at a station to see if any of them have a war somewhere else, or just keeping an eye out for CZs while collecting the other materials...

Yosharian · Apr 27, 2018

dognosh said:
+1 rep for your efforts. Will compose another reply with some stuff for you in a few minutes.

I do have 2 suggestions for you,if it helps :
Use Google Sheets, much more user friendly than the forum tables.
Once you have enough people noticing your thread & contributing, you could ask it to be moved to the GUIDES section. That way it won't get lost after 1 day.

I'm using Google Sheets but I don't know how to create a public copy for anyone to see. So I just copied and pasted it into here instead. Shrug.

Ian Doncaster said:
Oh, on the "finding wars" question... use of the Civil War+War state filter on Galmap will find *some* of them - the ones where the system controlling faction is involved. If you're not picky about the sort of war, that's probably good enough, though there's likely a war between two non-controlling factions closer than that. No easy way to find those other than by checking the individual system maps, checking the local faction status at a station to see if any of them have a war somewhere else, or just keeping an eye out for CZs while collecting the other materials...

The last time I went searching for Thermics this way, using the galaxy map was an entirely unreliable way to find Conflict Zones. That's why I created the guide in the first place: using Galnet's public list of warring systems proved a reliable way of finding CZs.

metatheurgist · Apr 27, 2018

White text on pastel? Too hard to read.

Yosharian · Apr 27, 2018

metatheurgist said:
White text on pastel? Too hard to read.

White text? I haven't used any white text

Qohen Leth · Apr 27, 2018

Yosharian said:
White text? I haven't used any white text

Automatic color is white on dark forum themes.

Yosharian · Apr 27, 2018

Qohen Leth said:
Automatic color is white on dark forum themes.

Oh well I don't use the dark forum theme.

Chalkie · Apr 30, 2018

Yosharian said:
...Anyone have a reliable way to determine what systems have conflict zones in them?

How about https://eddb.io/system?r=11663&t=64 and select again for wars? Obviously the "reference system" is wherever you are at the moment

+Mikie · Apr 30, 2018

You're missing Site 426, Exploration camp C-NO4 and pranged Anaconda in Orere for materials. Maybe Upsilon Phoenicis lava spouts too. With those and material traders you won't need much planetary scooting if at all.

For data, you should be able to collect planety by doing planetary scans but if you're short there's a tool for that - ED Pathfinder.

Not trying to diminish your efforts cause it's nice to have it all in one place, just saying - you are 2 years or so late.

Deep Thought 42 · Apr 30, 2018

i have got "Atypical Encryption Archives" from scanning the saterlites at the Science Insalation (San Tu)

Yosharian · May 2, 2018

Chalkie said:
How about https://eddb.io/system?r=11663&t=64 and select again for wars? Obviously the "reference system" is wherever you are at the moment

I tried using EDDB.io as a reference last time and it didn't work, I will have to test this again to see if it's more reliable now. Thanks for the suggestion, anyway.

+Mikie said:
You're missing Site 426, Exploration camp C-NO4 and pranged Anaconda in Orere for materials. Maybe Upsilon Phoenicis lava spouts too. With those and material traders you won't need much planetary scooting if at all.

For data, you should be able to collect planety by doing planetary scans but if you're short there's a tool for that - ED Pathfinder.

Not trying to diminish your efforts cause it's nice to have it all in one place, just saying - you are 2 years or so late.

I'm not aware of any of these, aside from the crashed Conda which isn't currently relevant to the guide as it doesn't include raw materials yet.

Can you give any details as to which materials are obtainable from Site 426 and Exploration Camp C-NO4?

Sod scanning planets, need a faster method than that.

Deep Thought 42 said:
i have got "Atypical Encryption Archives" from scanning the saterlites at the Science Insalation (San Tu)

Haven't seen this before. Can you repeatedly scan them?

HamsNEggs · May 2, 2018

Yosharian said:
I tried using EDDB.io as a reference last time and it didn't work, I will have to test this again to see if it's more reliable now. Thanks for the suggestion, anyway.

I'm not aware of any of these, aside from the crashed Conda which isn't currently relevant to the guide as it doesn't include raw materials yet.

Can you give any details as to which materials are obtainable from Site 426 and Exploration Camp C-NO4?

Sod scanning planets, need a faster method than that.

Haven't seen this before. Can you repeatedly scan them?

Yes, satellites can be re-scanned. The ones I use are at Evans Port in Parutis. Atypicals were frequent, as were open symmetric keys. I forget what else.

Point 3 of original OP stated that distribution centres were in Outbreak systems? They're in Famine systems. Also need to be within 1000ls to see them.

Adaptive Encryptors Captures: I sometimes get from planetary scan missions. The missions themselves are a pain at the moment, don't work all the time if you take more than one at the same time. Previously, I'd just been trading up for these by collecting lots of Atypicals from the satellites instead. Probably get them from settlement runs as well, but I don't go to that effort.

Classified Scan Fragments I'm pretty sure I picked these up from the Convoy beacon in Isinor. Can't confim as I have a PC and XB account. Got those on XB, so don't have log history.

I'm guessing you don't already have the 3.0 scavenger spreadsheet? I fear you're mostly duplicating effort: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...RsDxfAcQa7cBq0YUIFy3m2NII/edit#gid=1438475835

Also EDEngineer. It will list all the materials/data/raw in category format, selecting one shows the engineer recipes/experimentals/synthesis they're used for. Hovering over shows where you got them and how many. Of varying help as it only lists the previous 5 systems, and how many (e.g. may have been in civil war, now it isn't. May have been 5 visits, but only shows a total per system)

As an aside, EDDB is only as good as the last person that updated it. I've seen systems there stating civil war is active. You go to Galaxy map and its not any longer. I find it easier to just use the Galaxy Map and select the system states. You at least know it's real time.

Deep Thought 42 · May 2, 2018

Yosharian said:
Haven't seen this before. Can you repeatedly scan them?

Yes just relog like you do @ davs hope