High Grade Emissions and Improvised Components?

3 actual gaming hours, 12 different systems in civil unrest state with high population (independent/federation), deep space/shipping lanes, and only saw 2 HGE and of course didn't have Improvised Components. I ended up 250LY from where I started my search (Laksak). I'm now in Pegasi Sector EL-Y d96 and there is no sign of HGE. RNG is a horrible way of coding player chances to find mats. I don't know why they insist keeping it. The only thing it did, it made me feel frustrated and ruined my enjoyment of the good things this game has to offer, but I digress. Anyone has any pointers or, even better, a system where Improvised Components were found in the last couple of days or so? Thank you.
 
3 actual gaming hours, 12 different systems in civil unrest state with high population (independent/federation), deep space/shipping lanes, and only saw 2 HGE and of course didn't have Improvised Components. I ended up 250LY from where I started my search (Laksak). I'm now in Pegasi Sector EL-Y d96 and there is no sign of HGE. RNG is a horrible way of coding player chances to find mats. I don't know why they insist keeping it. The only thing it did, it made me feel frustrated and ruined my enjoyment of the good things this game has to offer, but I digress. Anyone has any pointers or, even better, a system where Improvised Components were found in the last couple of days or so? Thank you.

As soon as you have enough for your current needs they will show up like cockroaches!
That's been my experience with any G5 Mats found in HGEs
 
There would be a solution WITH keeping RNG.
Making a new value in the formula. Something like "time past since last event happened"
The higher the amount of time that passed, the more likely that you find a HGE until it reaches 100% chance after....let's say 10-15 minutes max.

But i feel with you, i've spent 3 days of my game time finding enough core dynamic composites 2 weeks ago -.-
But imperial shields are full but an exchange rate of 1 to 6 is also just stupid
VERY annoying and NOT fun
 
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As soon as you have enough for your current needs they will show up like cockroaches!
That's been my experience with any G5 Mats found in HGEs

I can't even find HGE! The only two I found in 3 hours of actual gaming did not have any Improvised Components in it.
 
I can't even find HGE! The only two I found in 3 hours of actual gaming did not have any Improvised Components in it.

Use the population indicator to highlight high population systems. The higher the population, the less rare HGEs are.

Sorry, you already got that part.
 
There would be a solution WITH keeping RNG.
Making a new value in the formula. Something like "time past since last event happened"
The higher the amount of time that passed, the more likely that you find a HGE until it reaches 100% chance after....let's say 10-15 minutes max.

But i feel with you, i've spent 3 days of my game time finding enough core dynamic composites 2 weeks ago -.-
But imperial shields are full but an exchange rate of 1 to 6 is also just stupid
VERY annoying and NOT fun

It would be great if they could fix it but I assumed it can't be. My reasoning behind it is that if it could have been fixed, it would have been done already, since this is a problem that has been going on for years? At least since I started playing the game 2 years ago.
 
Found one HGE (1) in Li K'anja with two (2) Improvised Components, after spending 30 minutes there in SC. I spent 2 more hours there but could not find any more. Went to a material trader and sacrificed Biotech Conductors, Pharma Isolators and another one (I think exquisite Focus Crystal iirc) to get 6 more. I now have 12. I can't help but feeling disappointed every single time I have to engage with engineers (and anything related to RNG), two years into the game.
 
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What works for me:

Right state. High population into billions
Fly around the main star between 500ls to 600ls. Hge should pop after couple or more random uss. Relog as soon as you collect the hge. Repeat.
 
Also, throttle back to around 0.5c. I've seen this advice mentioned a few times, and maybe it's placebo but I do seem to get more USSs when I'm flying slowly.

PS: we wore the same face to the party? One of us is going to have to go home and change! :p
 
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This is FD's way to nudge you into using the traders. I'm sure you've noticed there's no lack of encoded, degraded and stuff dropped off any ship you've blown up.

This is the way to LENGTHEN your game play, you wouldn't want to be bored, would you? Just vacuum everything you see.

All kidding aside, HGE's seem more scarce but I've had some success doing the slow cruise at around .2c. Improvised have always been scarce. Good luck.
 
This is FD's way to nudge you into using the traders. I'm sure you've noticed there's no lack of encoded, degraded and stuff dropped off any ship you've blown up.

This is the way to LENGTHEN your game play, you wouldn't want to be bored, would you? Just vacuum everything you see.

All kidding aside, HGE's seem more scarce but I've had some success doing the slow cruise at around .2c. Improvised have always been scarce. Good luck.
Lengthen gameplay?
Funny, I view it as shortening. As in: Why the Hell would anyone waste their time looking for one damned thing, when you can trade others things in order to have it?
If luck smiles on you in the course of gameplay and an HGE with the rarer things in it pops: Great.
Otherwise: Collect as many other things in the course of doing what you are doing and don't bloody worry about it.
 
This is FD's way to nudge you into using the traders. I'm sure you've noticed there's no lack of encoded, degraded and stuff dropped off any ship you've blown up.

This is the way to LENGTHEN your game play, you wouldn't want to be bored, would you? Just vacuum everything you see.

All kidding aside, HGE's seem more scarce but I've had some success doing the slow cruise at around .2c. Improvised have always been scarce. Good luck.

I doubt it, RNG has always been a problem. Also let's not forget that when it comes to G5 materials (like biotech conductors for example) you have to give out 6 for 1 and worse, if the mats you are exchanging are of a different type, so not really an efficient alternative. I lost a bunch of biotech conductors, Pharma Isolators and exquisite Focus Crystals to get six (6) more Improvised Components. Now I'm gonna have the same problem looking for Pharma Isolators and since I have already used mats trader, I will be forced to go hunting for Pharma Isolators anyway (HGE in Independent, Outbreak, here I come: more waste of time incoming).
Anyway, thanks all for the tips.
 
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Also, throttle back to around 0.5c. I've seen this advice mentioned a few times, and maybe it's placebo but I do seem to get more USSs when I'm flying slowly.

PS: we wore the same face to the party? One of us is going to have to go home and change! :p

Ahahaha...separated at birth
 
I doubt it, RNG has always been a problem. Also let's not forget that when it comes to G6 materials (like biotech conductors for example) you have to give out 6 for 1 and worse, if the mats you are exchanging are of a different type, so not really an efficient alternative. I lost a bunch of biotech conductors, Pharma Isolators and exquisite Focus Crystals to get six (6) more Improvised Components. Now I'm gonna have the same problem looking for Pharma Isolators and since I have already used mats trader, I will be forced to go hunting for Pharma Isolators anyway (HGE in Independent, Outbreak, here I come: more waste of time incoming).
Anyway, thanks all for the tips.

I have noticed that some ships are dropping g5 mats recently. I destroyed an anaconda at the nav beacon. The system was in anarchy (close to broo tarquin). Also was in outbreak. I was actually hunting t9's for conductive polys at the time. Has anybody seen a metallic meteorite recently? If you were lucky they would spawn in 3's. I've not seen a single one since new patch.

ACQ
 
Found one HGE (1) in Li K'anja with two (2) Improvised Components, after spending 30 minutes there in SC. I spent 2 more hours there but could not find any more. Went to a material trader and sacrificed Biotech Conductors, Pharma Isolators and another one (I think exquisite Focus Crystal iirc) to get 6 more. I now have 12. I can't help but feeling disappointed every single time I have to engage with engineers (and anything related to RNG), two years into the game.

I hate to say it, but I think you're being a bit too focused, and that's making it a chore for you. Engineers can be rough if you fire up the game one day, decide to get DD5s and then work your way down the ingredient list, jumping through hoops for the stuff.

Instead, start keeping an eye out for HGE and other mats while you're about your business. Make keeping an eye out for materials part of your regular play, then it will not need to become such a time sink. You'll have still spent the time, but it won't have been all at once, when you didn't want to do it.
 
If a system doesn't produce anything in 15-20 minutes, jump to another system. Don't stick to the current one.
 
I hate to say it, but I think you're being a bit too focused, and that's making it a chore for you. Engineers can be rough if you fire up the game one day, decide to get DD5s and then work your way down the ingredient list, jumping through hoops for the stuff.

Engineers can be rough for many reasons. One of the most well known reasons is that RNG is not working properly, or in a way that makes sense, since the beginning of time. That's why many ppl suggest to "just play the game". I have many hours invested in "just playing this game": if RNG had been doing its job, you'd think I would have plenty of mats in storage by now and wouldn't even need to search for them. But that's not the case for me and many other who posted the same complaints. Because of that, you eventually end up having to search for a material or two for engineering (if you have been lucky). When that happens, you are at the mercy of the RNG gods.
The design is faulty: it's hard enough to find HGE, for example, where multiple conditions have to be present (system with High Pop, in Civil Unrest, Independent, not mixed with other states or alliances, throttle at half speed or whatever, 500ls from the main star, etc...etc...etc...) but you also have to be lucky enough that the right material will spawn and that you won't be ambushed (once in the HGE) or interdicted (on the way to the HGE). This design make it possible for a player to end up without the mats he/she was looking for, after an hour or two of play: this is the worse thing you can do to a player and sure to bring frustration. In other words: if a player finds a yellow box, spawn gold coins; not "if a player that happens to jump 3 times while flipping in the air while alternating a raspberry with 3 real farts, finds a yellow box, spawn one of the three following things: (insert three random thing here and make it possible that those 3 things are not what the player was looking for). I think a player should always be rewarded in a game for time invested and effort, one way or another, if you want to have a good game design that will make ppl want to come back and play more. Oh, and we don't have the capability of selecting multiple filters in the galmap to find those conditions btw.
Also, the fact that they came up with material traders is to me a testament that FD have acknowledged that RNG has a problem and the way they are trying to fix it (ie material traders) tells me that RNG cannot be fixed properly without a complete rewrite perhaps?.
 
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I doubt it, RNG has always been a problem. Also let's not forget that when it comes to G5 materials (like biotech conductors for example) you have to give out 6 for 1 and worse, if the mats you are exchanging are of a different type, so not really an efficient alternative. I lost a bunch of biotech conductors, Pharma Isolators and exquisite Focus Crystals to get six (6) more Improvised Components. Now I'm gonna have the same problem looking for Pharma Isolators and since I have already used mats trader, I will be forced to go hunting for Pharma Isolators anyway (HGE in Independent, Outbreak, here I come: more waste of time incoming).
Anyway, thanks all for the tips.

Just FYI: Biotech Conductors, and Exquisite Focus Crystals are Elite's most common Trade Mission Rewards: I've converted more of those into other things than I care to count....they never run out.
I do wish Frontier would add variety to the reward list; but until they do: I convert away.
 
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