Wow.. so elite is just another cheap "video game" after all.

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The problem with bonus weekends, every single one of them in every other game, is that they immediately make aware the "video game" mechanics that developers use that only work against players. Just spend a few seconds considering *why* bonus weekends are fun, and what the experience of playing any game is like before and after the weekend is over.

There always is some developer serving feedback loop involved, either attached to money, bloated game time, or both in the worst cases. The parameters that get relief during these weekends always highlight these.

So coming to elite, i was a bit floored to see this..
- I never considered engineers a grind before now. Honestly i never did. But now there's this massive red sign telling me there's nothing sacred at all in the experience, its nothing more than a progression mechanic. Are we getting paid bonus passes in the store next?

- The other games that do this are in a different league to elite, both in positive and negative aspects. I honestly wouldn't recommend going there. While their business practices are far shadier, their games are also orders of magnitude more complete than elite is. As a simulator sandbox, elite scores 110/100. As just another cheap video game, the same elite scores 15/100. Trying to be like and pulling in those players *before* elite is swtor or star citizen is really strange intent? I don't understand.

And this comes right after the powerplay open event. What's ultimately sad about that isn't powerplay, or open, or players, its the fact that frontier are again, completely out of touch with the player base. The fact that the majority of players have spent hundreds or thousands of hours building up their game experiences *avoiding* open they're just completely unable to perceive. I get the designers are really busy people, but owning player metrics should be part of that role.

Just disappointing. /actual sigh
 
Its a few day in game event that id imagine is a way to drum up a bit of interest and maybe get a few people playing/logging in.

Its also a way for players that feel money making is a bit slow to make a few quid quicker than usual and a way to get a few modules upgraded a little easier.

Thats it,thats all it is. So im all for it,dont see any issues at all. Then again im not trying to over analyse it.
 
Has it occurred to you that Elite is just a video game, the majority of players are supporting open only powerplay, and maybe you're wrong?

Well, frontier have educated me about that just today, so i'll stand corrected.

But no about open players, you're just wrong. Read any forum to see that open players are actually a minority, sorry.
 
Well, frontier have educated me about that just today, so i'll stand corrected.

But no about open players, you're just wrong. Read any forum to see that open players are actually a minority, sorry.

The grand total for the powerplay feedback thread was about 600 for and about 200 against last I checked, if you can give me a better source please do.
 
The problem with bonus weekends, every single one of them in every other game, is that they immediately make aware the "video game" mechanics that developers use that only work against players. Just spend a few seconds considering *why* bonus weekends are fun, and what the experience of playing any game is like before and after the weekend is over.

There always is some developer serving feedback loop involved, either attached to money, bloated game time, or both in the worst cases. The parameters that get relief during these weekends always highlight these.

So coming to elite, i was a bit floored to see this..
- I never considered engineers a grind before now. Honestly i never did. But now there's this massive red sign telling me there's nothing sacred at all in the experience, its nothing more than a progression mechanic. Are we getting paid bonus passes in the store next?

- The other games that do this are in a different league to elite, both in positive and negative aspects. I honestly wouldn't recommend going there. While their business practices are far shadier, their games are also orders of magnitude more complete than elite is. As a simulator sandbox, elite scores 110/100. As just another cheap video game, the same elite scores 15/100. Trying to be like and pulling in those players *before* elite is swtor or star citizen is really strange intent? I don't understand.

And this comes right after the powerplay open event. What's ultimately sad about that isn't powerplay, or open, or players, its the fact that frontier are again, completely out of touch with the player base. The fact that the majority of players have spent hundreds or thousands of hours building up their game experiences *avoiding* open they're just completely unable to perceive. I get the designers are really busy people, but owning player metrics should be part of that role.

Just disappointing. /actual sigh

"I thought this video game wasn't going to be a video game, but it turned out to be a video game."

You've been incredibly unobservant based off everything in your post.
 
Its a few day in game event that id imagine is a way to drum up a bit of interest and maybe get a few people playing/logging in.

Its also a way for players that feel money making is a bit slow to make a few quid quicker than usual and a way to get a few modules upgraded a little easier.

Thats it,thats all it is. So im all for it,dont see any issues at all. Then again im not trying to over analyse it.

This pretty much sums up how I feel about this in a short, concise way. +1
 
"I thought this video game wasn't going to be a video game, but it turned out to be a video game."

You've been incredibly unobservant based off everything in your post.

Do you blame me though? There is no video game here. Its a simulator. Where's the game in elite i'm supposed to see as the game? I thought I was working with whats infront.
 
Do you blame me though? There is no video game here. Its a simulator. Where's the game in elite i'm supposed to see as the game? I thought I was working with whats infront.

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Uh, the part where it's a video game. This ain't DCS.
 
You proved the point right there. That doesn't apply to me on an average day.

Because i don't think of elite as a "video game", my review is generally 9+/10, not 6/10. Wouldn't be posting here for 6/10 video game for sure.

Uh, good for you? Your personal perceptions don't alter the objective reality that says this is a video game. If the bonus weekend trips you up that much, preserve your own 'murshun by, idk, not participating in it. You can cry about how "it's more than just a game to me" all you want, but that's your personal problem at the end of the day.
 
You wouldn't need a sense of immersion if it weren't a video game. Being a video game doesn't mean it has to be a pandering, "gamey" respawn death match set in the vastness of the galaxy.

It's called a willing suspension of disbelief, and with this game, I unfortunately find elements of it that I am unwilling to participate in. A bonus weekend is just one of them. Fortunately, I'll be out on an exploration expedition.

Good luck with the rat race while I'm away, and good riddance.
 
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