General / Off-Topic The solution to global warming.

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I don't buy that time line. How on Earth could they possibly know all that time ago? It's pure theorising, some egg head's opinion. Meteorological equipment or tech is about 200 years give or take. Before that what did they use? Yes we have historians, authors and famous diaries. The level of fine measurements and accurate readings just were not invented yet. I refuse to feel guilty over what is essentially speculation.

Anyway my opinion is probably wrong, might be right. What are we doing to combat pollution should be the question. CO2 is not the enemy. It is over shadowing legit pollution problems. Cycle to work, don't drive. Eat Vegan and cut sugar out of your diet. Recycle like a nutter. If you are not doing these things then please start. You'll feel great, the air will be fresher and it will cost you very little at the dentist. Oh and your concentration will go up and off the charts.

A plant based diet is a first step towards a cleaner environment. Forget about CO2. SO2 and CO should be the real concern.

But then we'd be eating all the food that food eats. Think of the poor animals. They'll starve.
 
Continuing in semi-joking way:

AC cools down the space on one side of the wall and heating up the space on the other side of the wall. But as a net effect it heats up the environment, because, like most such machines, it turns electrical energy into heat energy. That's why the cooling side heat exchanger is much smaller than the radiator on the outside. :p

To cool down the Earth, you'd have to devise a machine that turns environmental heat into electricity, for example.

Is this where we mention that energy can not be created, nor destroyed, only converted from one from to another?

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I don't buy that time line. How on Earth could they possibly know all that time ago?

You can determine a trees age, Necro, by counting it's rings. Each ring represents a summer/winter boundary. You can even infer weather patterns (wet/dry) not only by the size of each ring, but by the size of each ring of other trees that grew along side it. Infering those weather patterns is not accurate, but it does give you some clues as to the weather patterns.

That said, there are at least two methods by which weather temperatures can be infered. One is ice cores. The other method is to use fossils.

For ice cores: Scientists can infer temperature by measuring the oxygen isotopes found in ice cores. These isotopes change across layers found in the ice cores. These layers are much like the rings found in trees that mark the seasons. This method is only useful for the last 750,000 years. No glaciers in existance are older than that.

-- Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-are-past-temperatures/

The fossil method also uses isotopes and just like the ice core method, isotopes can change across fossils. In this case, they use microscopic fossils that lived and died in the ocean. These fossils, like snow in the ice cores, formed layers in ocean sediments. Coring these sediments and measuring the isotopes across them can give you a general idea of the temperatures in that period. It's probably not as accurate as the ice core method, but it can still be used to infer temperatures for countless millions of years.

-- Source: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-hottest-earths-ever-been

No, we'll never be 100% certain, but it's the best evidence we have and with no evidence to contradict it, it stands as the most likely measurement of temperature. But to be clear, this is not guess work, it's inference. Using it we can create a reasonable idea of what temperatures were like over the ages.
 
Neutron bombardment of all major cities. It's the only logical choice or make the planet listen to the mormon tabernacle choir for ten years straight
 
Neutron bombardment of all major cities. It's the only logical choice or make the planet listen to the mormon tabernacle choir for ten years straight

Not the Mormon tabernacle choir.. Miles Davis. That cool jazz pouring out of everyone's speakers would just chill everyone out.

[video=youtube;2fbUvTkPsl4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fbUvTkPsl4[/video]
 
I don't buy that time line. How on Earth could they possibly know all that time ago? It's pure theorising, some egg head's opinion. Meteorological equipment or tech is about 200 years give or take. Before that what did they use? Yes we have historians, authors and famous diaries. The level of fine measurements and accurate readings just were not invented yet. I refuse to feel guilty over what is essentially speculation.

Its called the scientific method. One way is to measure chemical composition of ice on the poles. The idea that we rely on 'historians, authors and famous diaries' is so absurdly silly, I cant say it any cleaer. Its really okay that you lack even the most rudimentary knowledge about this, but a sensible person would understand that it is foolish to have such a strong opinion based on such profound ignorance.
 
Its called the scientific method. One way is to measure chemical composition of ice on the poles. The idea that we rely on 'historians, authors and famous diaries' is so absurdly silly, I cant say it any cleaer. Its really okay that you lack even the most rudimentary knowledge about this, but a sensible person would understand that it is foolish to have such a strong opinion based on such profound ignorance.
It is because: What if's and 'people have said' have become facts by the end of the sentence; in this inter-web and pseudo-scientific T.V. world.
 
Its called the scientific method. One way is to measure chemical composition of ice on the poles. The idea that we rely on 'historians, authors and famous diaries' is so absurdly silly, I cant say it any cleaer. Its really okay that you lack even the most rudimentary knowledge about this, but a sensible person would understand that it is foolish to have such a strong opinion based on such profound ignorance.
Insults what a surprise. I didn't say they depended on literature from the past. Some authors commented on unusual weather patterns, so we have a kind of glimpse. My point being is the tech to measure climate is very young. I am not ignorant for questioning something. It is ignorant to blindly accept it because someone purported to be smart says so. Ice from the poles they can accurately predict what the climate was like all those years ago? Lol ok mate keep swigging the kool aid. Didn't they discover there was something like 70% more CO2 in the atmosphere from core samples? Like I said they cannot possibly know hence theory!

Anyway Vegan here 21 years and I don't buy anthropogenic climate change/global warming. I do it for the animals and health. The planet is such that we probably don't even make a dent. Just get your pennies ready to pay for your carbon credits. It's like sins that the pope used to offer.
 
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You don’t buy it because you don’t accept the method of collecting data or is there another ideological reason?

What evidence would you need to accept human caused climate change (specifically the rate of change shown in the last part of the cartoon)?
 
Insults what a surprise. I didn't say they depended on literature from the past. Some authors commented on unusual weather patterns, so we have a kind of glimpse. My point being is the tech to measure climate is very young. I am not ignorant for questioning something. It is ignorant to blindly accept it because someone purported to be smart says so. Ice from the poles they can accurately predict what the climate was like all those years ago? Lol ok mate keep swigging the kool aid. Didn't they discover there was something like 70% more CO2 in the atmosphere from core samples? Like I said they cannot possibly know hence theory!

Anyway Vegan here 21 years and I don't buy anthropogenic climate change/global warming. I do it for the animals and health. The planet is such that we probably don't even make a dent. Just get your pennies ready to pay for your carbon credits. It's like sins that the pope used to offer.

That kool aid you like to mention is called 'the scientific method', and 'swigging' means 'having an education'. If your idea of reasoning is to look at evidence and then say 'lol u so koolaid' than that is on you. You've presented zero actual counterargument other that you feel it isnt true. It may work in your head, but when typed or spoken ithers can see it for what it is: hollow words from someone who doesnt know what he is talking about.
 
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I also support socks being sold in sets of three so you have a spare.

I usually go one better, and buy an extra pair of socks, so I have redundancy for either the original socks, or the spare sock. I usually leave this 4th sock on the radiator - a 'hot spare' if you will :)
 

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I usually go one better, and buy an extra pair of socks, so I have redundancy for either the original socks, or the spare sock. I usually leave this 4th sock on the radiator - a 'hot spare' if you will :)

Mind. Blown.
 
As someon who lives in the golden zone, I haven’t seen any changes in temperature for years.
However I believe it’s good to be self sufficient with water, food and electricity.

Just look at California, they are going to impose some really crazy laws regarding water restriction in the future, not going
To be fun to be under those rules.
 
The solution is simple: Load all the middle men and telephone sanitisers onto a big ship and fire it into space call it something like Ark. We might need to concoct a story about a mutant space goat or something like that.

It could work ;)
 
Ice from the poles they can accurately predict what the climate was like all those years ago?

Nobody predicts anything. But maybe you should do some reading. The short answer is: Yes, Ice cores can give you detailled information on the atmosphere and it's composition for the last couple of hundred thousand years.

Didn't they discover there was something like 70% more CO2 in the atmosphere from core samples?

Yes, there were those times. CO2 concentration was significantly higher 500 Million to 60 Million years ago. In peaks CO2 concentration went up to 4000-6000 ppm. Earth itself was also quite warmer during that time. But neither the CO2 concentration nor the increased temperature is in itself a problem, the speed of the change at which concentration and temperature are increasing is a problem. We see the speed of a process that usually takes tens of thousands of years squeezed into a century. A change that fast will bring significant environmental damage.

Like I said they cannot possibly know hence theory!

Yes, you also said that the flat earthers are "far from ignorant and stupid." so excuse me if I take your opinion with a grain of salt and a truckload of irony.

Anyway Vegan here 21 years and I don't buy anthropogenic climate change/global warming.

And being a Vegan obviously makes you an authority for climate change? How is this relevant?
 
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The solution is simple: Load all the middle men and telephone sanitisers onto a big ship and fire it into space call it something like Ark. We might need to concoct a story about a mutant space goat or something like that.

It could work ;)

I read a story about something like that happening before. The planet in question died out from a disease caught from an unsanitised telephone. Sometimes you find people you consider useless like lawyers, accountants, games publishers, and telephone sanitisers really do serve a useful function in society.
 
I read a story about something like that happening before. The planet in question died out from a disease caught from an unsanitised telephone. Sometimes you find people you consider useless like lawyers, accountants, games publishers, and telephone sanitisers really do serve a useful function in society.

Tbh, a planet where telephone sanitizers are a thing doesn't deserve to live.
 
Tbh, a planet where telephone sanitizers are a thing doesn't deserve to live.

Ironically it's the planets that value their telephone sanitizers which are the ones to survive such a demise. It just goes to show that maybe creating the universe wasn't such a good idea after all.
 
Timezones usually shift every hour, so that's only 24 explosions a day



It kills two birds with one thermonuclear device <grin>

The Earth spins or rotates at the rate of approximate 1,000 miles an hour. If one could maintain that speed while on the equator at high noon on the 21st of June, which is the summer soltice. It would be high noon every step of the way. But we can't thus, the powers of be set it up a schedule of one hour incriments. If one does the math, it's noon at every point along the total length of the equator for the entire day. Due to the Earth's tilting, it would be noon every step the next day, but the path would be altered slightly. Thus it's noon some where every second of everyday somewhere. Not enough nukes, however, if the proposed excess of 7.5 billion individuals were to all gather at the same spot, and blow hard enough, long enough, perhaps we could cool the sun a couple of degrees.
 
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