Universal is the real culprit?

[DarkAnubis]

Guys, think with me. Universal did not leave the Frontier put firearms and did not let the dinosaurs destroy jeeps. Do not you think you have a lot of Universal involvement in the game? JWE launches on June 12, just the day that Jurassic Park turns 25. Did Universal rush Frontier to end the game? I'll leave it to you to discuss it.

And folks, do not worry, when the game launches, Frontier worries about new dinosaurs, better animations and new features, just wait.

 

[Jack1253]

Guys, think to me. Universal did not leave the Frontier for children, did not put firearms and did not let the dinosaurs destroy jeeps. Do not you think you have a lot of Universal involvement in the game? JWE launches on June 12, just the day that Jurassic Park turns 25. Did Universal rush Frontier to end the game? So is it the culprit that we have no more dinosaurs, better animations, and more features (like sleeping) because of Universal? I'll leave it to you to discuss it.

And folks, do not worry, when the game launches, Frontier worries about new dinosaurs, better animations and new features, just wait.

Universal is 99% of the problem.

 

[eddiehead]

So is it the culprit that we have no more dinosaurs, better animations, and more features (like sleeping) because of Universal?

Why would Universal have any bearing on these points?

no more dinosaurs? There are 42 in the game - +5 with the deluxe edition - +4 or +6 with the free Fallen Kingdom DLC - + however many more Frontier want to release later down the line
better animations? Frontier are the animators and AI designers. Universal aren't telling them what to do/not to do there
sleeping? Again, why would Universal have anything to do with that? Maybe (and it's just a thought) dinosaurs don't sleep because each island is in a fixed time period and so no hours pass, therefore no dinosaurs get tired

Universal granted the license. Yes that means there are certain things they've requested (i.e. no violence against child characters) but they don't have an overarching creative control on the game. At the end of the day BOTH Universal and Frontier want the game to do as well as it can, to make both parties as much money as possible. Why would either side do anything to potentially jeopardise that?

 

[DarkAnubis]

Why would Universal have any bearing on these points?

no more dinosaurs? There are 42 in the game - +5 with the deluxe edition - +4 or +6 with the free Fallen Kingdom DLC - + however many more Frontier want to release later down the line
better animations? Frontier are the animators and AI designers. Universal aren't telling them what to do/not to do there
sleeping? Again, why would Universal have anything to do with that? Maybe (and it's just a thought) dinosaurs don't sleep because each island is in a fixed time period and so no hours pass, therefore no dinosaurs get tired

Universal granted the license. Yes that means there are certain things they've requested (i.e. no violence against child characters) but they don't have an overarching creative control on the game. At the end of the day BOTH Universal and Frontier want the game to do as well as it can, to make both parties as much money as possible. Why would either side do anything to potentially jeopardise that?

I'm just saying that Universal could have rushed Frontier to launch the game, so they could not do everything they wanted. Only that. And I also loved the dinosaur list, it's good for the base game.

 

[impcaeaug]

I agree, I do have a issue with the possibility of not being able to use firearms against dinosaurs since the movies
always had people trying to kill dangerous dinosaurs with guns. I want children as guest but they should be immune
from being eaten by dinosaurs. But I love what Frontier has done with the game and I want to see their improvements
after the game is released. Some of it might be Universal's fault but I don't really blame them. They have to make a profit
out of their investments and products.

 

[DarkAnubis]

I agree, I do have a issue with the possibility of not being able to use firearms against dinosaurs since the movies
always had people trying to kill dangerous dinosaurs with guns. I want children as guest but they can be immune
from being eaten by dinosaurs. But I love what Frontier has done with the game and I want to see their improvements
after the game is released. Some of it might be Universal's fault but I don't really blame them. They have to make a profit
out of their investments and products.

That's it. People are confusing what I'm talking about (I do not blame them, I may have put something that confused them), but you got it right. Universal rushed Frontier to launch the game on Jurassic Park's birthday, and Frontier could not do everything it wanted. But it is obvious that once the game launches, it will constantly update it.

 

[eddiehead]

I think the lack of firearms is a non issue in the game personally:

For one, the dinosaurs in the game are expensive. So strategically speaking are you really going to pull out the big guns on your 3+ million dollar star attraction? To quote Masrani - "we have 35 million invested in that asset, we can't just kill it"

For two, don't you think it makes things a bit more on edge and suspensful/urgent if a dinosaur breaks out and you can only take care of things non leathally? Not only do you have to act fast, but you also need to hit multiple shots and wait for it to take effect. That to me is far more intense an experience when you're under pressure than just shooting a dino in the head for a kill

It also goes without saying that Frontier knew exactly what deadline they were on when they took the project on, considering they were working closely with Universal to coincide with the release of a film that was already over a year into production. Universal didn't rush Frontier, they gave them a deadline. Frontier accepted that.

As you said though, and as we've all speculated for a while there will be free DLC after fallen kingdoms release (which may well include updates and fixes outside of dinosaurs) and no doubt there will be some form of regular free dlc alongside paid dlc to address issues, add content and improve core mechanics, just as they've done with planet coaster

 

[PCMR4Life]

I agree, I do have a issue with the possibility of not being able to use firearms against dinosaurs since the movies
always had people trying to kill dangerous dinosaurs with guns. I want children as guest but they should be immune
from being eaten by dinosaurs. But I love what Frontier has done with the game and I want to see their improvements
after the game is released. Some of it might be Universal's fault but I don't really blame them. They have to make a profit
out of their investments and products.

I would rather not have children in the game at all than have them being immune. Children aren't necessary anyway.

 

[impcaeaug]

Well Masrani did pliot a helicopter with a M134 Minigun in order to try and kill the I-Rex. Robert Muldoon was willing to kill Velociraptors with his shotgun.
Waiting for a sedative to take effect can risk lives. I will use sedatives sometimes but if I had to, I would use lethal weapons if the situation demands.
I want children since children are prominent in the movies and kids do often go to amusement parks/zoos in real life.

 

[Jack1253]

Well Masrani did pliot a helicopter with a M134 Minigun in order to try and kill the I-Rex. Robert Muldoon was willing to kill Velociraptors with his shotgun.
Waiting for a sedative to take effect can risk lives. I will use sedatives sometimes but if I had to, I would use lethal weapons if the situation demands.

I'd rather kill a 3 million dollar dinosaur than have to deal with 3 million dollars worth of lawsuits AND lose my parks reputation.

 

[Andrew2018]

Guys, think with me. Universal did not leave the Frontier put firearms and did not let the dinosaurs destroy jeeps. Do not you think you have a lot of Universal involvement in the game? JWE launches on June 12, just the day that Jurassic Park turns 25. Did Universal rush Frontier to end the game? I'll leave it to you to discuss it.

And folks, do not worry, when the game launches, Frontier worries about new dinosaurs, better animations and new features, just wait.

I think they rushed it a bit, but I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes and we have no idea the full extent of whats in the game until next week,

 

[Dino droppings? Droppings?]

Well Masrani did pliot a helicopter with a M134 Minigun in order to try and kill the I-Rex. Robert Muldoon was willing to kill Velociraptors with his shotgun.
Waiting for a sedative to take effect can risk lives. I will use sedatives sometimes but if I had to, I would use lethal weapons if the situation demands.
I want children since children are prominent in the movies and kids do often go to amusement parks/zoos in real life.

And Owen was outraged at how stupid Claire was for going after the Irex with non-lethals.

Literally every Jurassic Park movie has guns.

 

[DarkAnubis]

I may be wrong but imagine, your Indominus has escaped. She's terrorizing the visitors, imagine, how many sedative darts will be enough to knock her down? Do not you think it would be faster to eliminate it before it causes another death?

 

[eddiehead]

I'd rather kill a 3 million dollar dinosaur than have to deal with 3 million dollars worth of lawsuits AND lose my parks reputation.

na, I put a sign up at the front gate:

"Jurassic World accepts no responsibility for loss of either limb or life while you visit the park. Entering the park exonerates Jurassic World of any and all legal obligations to your safety and well being. We do however provide emergency shelters for park guests to use in time of need, but it's first come first served so get there quick or get trampled and eaten

Have a pleasant day"

In seriousness, I can understand the firearm argument, and appreciate the role they played in the films. Muldoon was a bit different as a game warden, he arguably wasn't invested in the animals as either assets or attractions. His first line to the parks first visitors is "they should all be destroyed". Masrani did pilot the helicopter, but only after the deaths of the ACU team had failed and Hoskins had suggested using the raptors. I'm still not convinced that's what he really wanted to happen

 

[impcaeaug]

Yeah, Masrani didn't want to kill her and use the raptors but he had to try and help kill the I-Rex since she was a very dangerous
dinosaur that proved it's lethality. The sign might work since some modifications. I think the U.S government would probably
say something about the deaths of guest if the death rate got too high and if mistakes were made that allowed a dinosaur to kill
more people since major issues that could have been prevented or at least minimize the damage usually attracts the attention of some
government.

 

[DarkAnubis]

Frontier would have to think of a way to get firearms in the game. For example, in the JPOG when we were in emergency mode, the jeep camera was replaced by a gun. It would be interesting this element in the JWE, of this to use the weapon only in cases of emergency. And also could only shoot the carnivores, because it is cruel to kill the herbivores that has nothing to do with the situation and don't cause bad for anyone.

 

[Deviljho]

If they don't want to give us weapons, then, let us train dinosaurs. SWAT-Dinosaurs to the rescue, killing the most dangerous dinosaurs who escaped from our park.

 

[impcaeaug]

That would be fun and sort of funny since I can imagine what funny things will happen with ''SWAT-Dinosaurs''.....

 

[Jack1253]

That would be fun and sort of funny since I can imagine what funny things will happen with ''SWAT-Dinosaurs''.....

SWATdominus Rex...

 

[impcaeaug]

SWAT Velociraptors holding guns and firing at every direction.....
https://youtu.be/TXGCyjJh48I?t=132
(just a joke)