The Size Issue, and others

[joe49115]

I know many other people have talked about this, but here goes....

Part 1: Size. The Spinosaurus and Giganotosaurus are extremely undersized. they should both be bigger than T-Rex, and a bit smaller than the Indominus Rex. This is a very bad mistake, and I hope Frontier fixes this soon.

Part 2: Some models. The Deinonychus crest is very controversial. I think some people would like it if you can change the physical shape of the dinosaur, like a crest-less Deinonychus, or Edmontosaurus. and also, the folded frill on the Dilophosaurus body doesn't look to well in my opinion, and it wasn't showed in the movies. an option for that as well would be appreciated. Also, a question. Why is the Mamenchisaurus model not the one from the movie?

 

[m2wester]

There are size issues among the herbivores that are actualy much more egregious than Giga and Spino... Styracosaurus is way too big, the three Ornithomimids are basically the same size (there should be significant differences) and from what I've heard, there are similar issues with the Stegosaurs (Huayangosaurus and Kentrosaurus should be half the length of Stegosaurus), but I haven't unlocked most of them yet.

 

[Dinoken]

Well - in terms of the 3 species of Ornithomimids - Archaeornithomimus, Gallimimus, & Struthiomimus.

Archaeornithomimus - is about the size of an Emu - 3.3 meters long, 1.5 meters tall, and about 50-60 kg.
Struthiomimus - is about 4.3-4.9 meters, 1.8-2.0 meters tall, about 150-200 kg
Gallimimus - is about 6.1 meters, 2.4 meters tall, and about 400-440 kg

As for Stegosaurs - most of the Asian stegosaurs and Kentrosaurus are about 4-6 meters long, 1-1.5 metric tons - which is a lot smaller than the 7-9 meter long North American Stegosaurids.

 

[Beydhi]

Yep we should keep talking about it, until it's changed, this is IMPORTANT and i'm not being sarcastic here, the spino and the giga are way too undersized, they would look way cooler if they were bigger than the t-rex, or at least his size, make the giga the size of the indominus at least and he will be ok [yesnod]
and for the herbivores, yeah, why not

 

[joe49115]

Yep we should keep talking about it, until it's changed, this is IMPORTANT and i'm not being sarcastic here, the spino and the giga are way too undersized, they would look way cooler if they were bigger than the t-rex, or at least his size, make the giga the size of the indominus at least and he will be ok [yesnod]
and for the herbivores, yeah, why not

and part 2, they should allow us to be able to change the dinosaur's appearance, like a crest-less deinonychus. the skull shape and color is distinguishing enough in my opinion. and the closed silo frill. and the mamenchisaurus......

 

[Dinoken]

make the giga the size of the indominus at least and he will be ok

How about - NO! The Giganotosaurus should NOT be 15 meters long, because that is too big. At best the Giganotosaurus is slightly longer than a T.rex (if we are using real world data), or maybe about the same length as Rexy from Jurassic World, or the Spinosaurus from JP3. Even then - the Giganotosaurus should not be taller or heavier than Rexy, the JP3 Spinosaurus or the Indominus rex.

I do agree that the game stats - for all dinosaurs(T.rex, Giganotosaurus & Spinosaurus) should be altered, as well as the size they appear relative to each other.

If assume that the JWE model is based on Rexy from Jurassic World & JW:FK - which is the largest T.rex in the entire JP/JW series - then the stats for these dinosaurs should be as follows.

- T.rex - 13.4 meters/44 feet long, 5.1 meters/16.8 feet tall, about 9-10 metric tons
- Giganotosaurus - 13.72 meters/45 feet long, 4.6 meters/15 feet tall, about 8-9 metric tons
- Spinosaurus - 15.0 meters/49 feet long, 5.2 meters/17 feet(top of head), 6.4 meters/21 feet(top of spines), about 12 metric tons.
- Indominus rex - 15.24 meters/ 50 feet long, 5.5 meters/18 feet tall, about 12-14 metric tons.

 

[Shadowear1991]

How about - NO! The Giganotosaurus should NOT be 15 meters long, because that is too big. At best the Giganotosaurus is slightly longer than a T.rex (if we are using real world data), or maybe about the same length as Rexy from Jurassic World, or the Spinosaurus from JP3. Even then - the Giganotosaurus should not be taller or heavier than Rexy, the JP3 Spinosaurus or the Indominus rex.

I do agree that the game stats - for all dinosaurs(T.rex, Giganotosaurus & Spinosaurus) should be altered, as well as the size they appear relative to each other.

If assume that the JWE model is based on Rexy from Jurassic World & JW:FK - which is the largest T.rex in the entire JP/JW series - then the stats for these dinosaurs should be as follows.

- T.rex - 13.4 meters/44 feet long, 5.1 meters/16.8 feet tall, about 9-10 metric tons
- Giganotosaurus - 13.72 meters/45 feet long, 4.6 meters/15 feet tall, about 8-9 metric tons
- Spinosaurus - 15.0 meters/49 feet long, 5.2 meters/17 feet(top of head), 6.4 meters/21 feet(top of spines), about 12 metric tons.
- Indominus rex - 15.24 meters/ 50 feet long, 5.5 meters/18 feet tall, about 12-14 metric tons.

The only issue with this is we’re using Jurassic world/Park spinosaurus the one from jp3 wasn’t fully grown and had a size of 13.3 meters/43.8 feet long and ingen spinosaurus had a max length of 15 meters/ 46 feet long it was 6 meters/ 19.7 feet tall with its sail it made it 7 meters tall and was 10 tons.

You can find all of the information on the following web page, http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Spinosaurus

I will add that out side of JP media the spinosaurus was estimated to be 49 feet long and had a more quadrupedal stance and was not as tall as tyrannosaurus or Giganotosaurus.

 

[joe49115]

I guess no one cares about deinonychus's crest, or edmontosaurus's crest, and Dilo's frill, or mamenchisaurus. we have some sort of confirmation of the size, but its the other part I want to know about

 

[m2wester]

I guess no one cares about deinonychus's crest, or edmontosaurus's crest, and Dilo's frill, or mamenchisaurus. we have some sort of confirmation of the size, but its the other part I want to know about

For Edmontosaurus, the latest Science news is that it probably had a crest. It's why it was added for JWE (the original model on the Jurassic World Website did not have a crest).

The Deinonychus probably just has it to make it look differrent from the Velociraptor, which is really the same dinosaur since the Jurassic Park Velociraptor is based on the Deinonychus, not the actual Velociraptor...

And like I said, what bugs me most out of this is actually Herbivore sizes, because those things already look fairly similar, making herbis of the same type basically the same size makes them even more interchangable.

 

[joe49115]

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[joe49115]

For Edmontosaurus, the latest Science news is that it probably had a crest. It's why it was added for JWE (the original model on the Jurassic World Website did not have a crest).

The Deinonychus probably just has it to make it look differrent from the Velociraptor, which is really the same dinosaur since the Jurassic Park Velociraptor is based on the Deinonychus, not the actual Velociraptor...

And like I said, what bugs me most out of this is actually Herbivore sizes, because those things already look fairly similar, making herbis of the same type basically the same size makes them even more interchangable.

but there are 2 species of edmontosaurus, so you should have the option to change. and as I said, the deinonychus's color and skull shape distinguishes it enough.
also, dilo frill should be adjustable.

now, every film dinosaur looks like it's film version, except mamenchisaurus, which really bugs me as well.

Herbivore size. (in meters)

Styracosaurus: 5.5 long, 3 high
Chasmosaurus: 5 long, 2.5 high
Pentaceratops: 6 long, 4.5 high
Torosaurus: 7 long, 3.25 high
Triceratops: 9 long, 4 high
Huayangosaurus: 4.5 long, 1.5 high
Chungkingosaurus: 5 long, 2.25 high
Gigantspinosaurus: (I don't know, possibly same size as either Huayangosaurus, or Chungkingosaurus)
Kentrosaurus: 5.5 long, 2 high
Stegosaurus: 9 long, 4.5 high.

most others are correct. Diplodocus and Apatosaurus should be the exact same proportions, except Diplodocus has a longer tail.

 

[Shadowear1991]

I guess no one cares about deinonychus's crest, or edmontosaurus's crest, and Dilo's frill, or mamenchisaurus. we have some sort of confirmation of the size, but its the other part I want to know about

Ok we’ll start with the frill, this is Jurassic Park not a Dino zoo. In Jurassic Park media dinos have frills.

Deinonychus’ head crest is a desight choice to make it easier for people to know the deference between Jurassic Park velociraptors and deinonychus, that the reason for it.

Edmontosaurus as a Genus now encompasses the species Anatosaurus & Anatotitan, and current evedence shows that Edmontosaurus (Species) had a crest Anatotitan and Anatosaurus did not but they’re all known as Edmontosaurus due to the shuffling of the Genus, the head crest is there to make sure Dino nerds know it’s the Edmontosaurus (Species) not Anatotitan or Anatosaurus.

 

[joe49115]

also, all the ornithopods should walk on 4 legs unless they have a need to stand up or run, like if they are herding, or scared. and who wants the Lost World parasaurolophus sound effects?

 

[tranquochuy]

T-rex:
In game, T-rex's length is 14m. This mean 4,5% longer in length and 14% heavier in weight compare to Rexy (13,4 m).
14% longer and 47% heavier compare to Sue (12,3m - the largest T-rex ever comfirmed).
Spinosaurus: OK
Giganotosaurus:
In game, Giganotosaurus's length is 12m. This mean 10% shorter in length, 75% weight compare to specimen MUCPv-95 (13,2m)
Ceratosaurus:
Ingame, Ceratosaurus's length is 10.4m. This mean 73% longer in length, 5.2 times bigger than real Ceratosaurus (6m)!
So, most important thing to do is scaling down T-rex's and Ceratosaurus's size

 

[DinoMaster9000]

I took big issue with this when I finally unlocked the Giganotosaurus. It’s way undersized!! It should easily exceed the Rex in size but not weight.
I haven’t seen Spino myself yet, but in others gameplay it looks like the same issue and it definitely needs a size bump. In JP3 it was at least 46 feet. Same with Stego as I haven’t seen it yet either, but in gameplay again it looks too small.
The Ceratosaurus needs a scale down for sure. Once we get Allo in the JW:FK pack they’ll be basically matched in size which is not accurate even in JP.
Gallimimus is too small really. It’s very large in JP and JW, like 20 feet. Archaeornithomimus is a tad oversized
Styracosaurus is bit too big, as is Chasmo
Edmontosaurus was nearly Rex size in length irl, but we never saw it on screen so that ones kind of minor.
And I do think the Rex needs a bit of a downscale.
I really hope this gets adjusted. It’s pretty aggravating to see my favorite dino(Giga) just way too small. It looks like a juvenile version honestly. I think the real culprit is that quite a few dinosaurs share animation rigs, so they are limited in how big or small they can be. I suspect Giga shares the Metri rig which is why it’s a measly 36 feet. Please take the time to do this game justice and adjust them!

 

[joe49115]

I do hope they fix the ornithopods though. and the adjustable models, as well as maybe the mamenchisaurus. it looks too similar to Brachiosaurus

 

[Scottslive24]

I’m not sure but is Suchomimus too small? It appears too small to me.

I agree with Rex and Cerato being smaller and the Spino and Giga being scaled up.

 

[Shadowear1991]

Yeah I genuinely think suchomimus is too small as well it should be much larger than it is, but we’ll have to wait and see it’s scale compaired to that of baryonyx...

 

[tranquochuy]

@Scottslive24 @Shadowear1991
I think Suchomimus's size is correct. I have compare it with a man in game and it about 2.5-3m height at hip. Spinosaurus's size is correct too.
Problem is T-rex and Ceratosaurus is TOO BIG. This mistake make Sucho and Spino looking so small.

 

[Scottslive24]

Yeah I suppose I can get behind that. T Rex has thrown everything off.