The Star Citizen Thread v8
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I'm pretty sure guessing how some feature would be done is the definition of theorycrafting.
As for the framerates, I seem to remember that it's always better than average on the fresh servers, and the performance degrades with time until the restart.
As usual , the SC "progress" schedule keeps "pace" with ED , often just slightly preceding an x.x update hoping for some subconscious influence relating to Beyond's 3.x numbers. Behold, Star Citizen's just "released" "3.2" mining!
[video=youtube;JXe9l6A7t3k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXe9l6A7t3k[/video]
more 3.2
[video=youtube;F4hhjZA-PPQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4hhjZA-PPQ[/video]
CIG also started issuing "shares"..
more 3.2
[video=youtube;F4hhjZA-PPQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4hhjZA-PPQ[/video]
CIG also started issuing "shares"..
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Well, its progress.... of a kind.
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Answered by sleutelbos I see, which I don't need to add to...
As to these comments...
Let's be very clear here. Your vilification post I used as an example did NOT vilify the gamers who made death threats, it vilified the entire SC online community. It's the main reason I called you out on it.
You seem to think you have the right to vilify an entire population for the bad behaviour of a minority. And that's exactly what it is, a minority, despite your best efforts to try to persuade yourselves that it's the entire SC community. Do you really believe that the majority of the SC online community give a toss about defending SC? And those that do all defend it in a toxic way? If so, do the statistical analysis. Go to the SC forums and include all those threads where the SC community politely discuss their enjoyment and hopes for the game. Then come back with the numbers that allow you to vilify them in their entirety.
I note sleutelbos also posted examples from a SC forum - zero threats, 100% upvotes. So yes, please go and do your statistical research to prove the entire SC online community should be vilified in the way you have done.
Yes, you've made yourself clear. You hate SC. You'd prefer to see 1M+ backers lose their money and any hope for a decent game. Nice.
Or, to put it a different way from milligna, I rather think Cobra believes that’s already happened.
I can't help but feel that if people are taking that sort of hyperbole as literal then they are either looking to be offended or they shouldn't even be using the damn internet. No one would think that a comment like that covers every single backer of the game, that would just be ludicrous.
I play a bit of EVE from time to time and that game has a rather notorious reputation amongst the media and other gamers, a reputation most certainly applies to some people who play it, but it also does not apply in any way, shape or form to a huge amount of people that also play it. I would laugh at a fellow EVE player if they started frequenting forums trying to claim that generalising is uncalled for, it's just part of the hyperbole that people use on the internet.
And there are lots of examples where the opposite is true. Just because there is a situation where X doesn't happen doesn't mean the adverse is not true.
I regularly get dog-piled when I post on the subreddit, I'm not rude or offensive to people, I don't use hyperbole but I do question things and sometimes (quite often in SC's case) that is not appreciated because it ruins the 'feel good' herd mentality thought process that pervades places like reddit.
I play a bit of EVE from time to time and that game has a rather notorious reputation amongst the media and other gamers, a reputation most certainly applies to some people who play it, but it also does not apply in any way, shape or form to a huge amount of people that also play it. I would laugh at a fellow EVE player if they started frequenting forums trying to claim that generalising is uncalled for, it's just part of the hyperbole that people use on the internet.
And there are lots of examples where the opposite is true. Just because there is a situation where X doesn't happen doesn't mean the adverse is not true.
I regularly get dog-piled when I post on the subreddit, I'm not rude or offensive to people, I don't use hyperbole but I do question things and sometimes (quite often in SC's case) that is not appreciated because it ruins the 'feel good' herd mentality thought process that pervades places like reddit.
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New Ship Sale confirmed: The Anvil Passive-Aggressive. Uprated Shields powered by "You are so mean to say nasty things about us" - ology allow for greater deflection of all incoming hostiles, leaving the craft to sail serenely on its path, like Hotblack Desiato's ship...
Also you are a "person of interest" because some of the more enthusiastic posters are keenly aware that you also post here... /not obsessive stalkers at all
Also you are a "person of interest" because some of the more enthusiastic posters are keenly aware that you also post here... /not obsessive stalkers at all
Personally i don't think there is an icecube's chance in hell of CIG shipping what they have hyped for years. At this point even a "decent game" is to my mind a big IF. At this point, i think just shipping something half playable half fun before the funds dry up will be a miracle.
On the bright side, if things go belly up, someone somewhere will make a killing selling CR effigies to burn.
New Ship Sale confirmed! The RSI Lyncher... with battering ram on the front to break through the space doors of the tyrant's castle and plenty of storage space for pitchforks and burning torches!
Some people in this forum have repeatedly said they want SC to fail as badly as possible. They cant wait to tell 'them' that 'they were wrong'. It is about vindication, days of reckoning and such healthy and sane stuff. It has little to do with 'neutral bystanders casually observing just another game.' Some people are really emotionally invested in Star Citizen, either positively or negatively. I find both types rather scary, to be honest.
Right, so when a bunch of people tell people 'you dont understand game development' it is perfectly normal to sulk away, request a ban and pay real money to get access to a safe forum where such horrible things aren't uttered. All while repeatedly lamenting the horror of people once accusing him of not understanding game development, while saying he cant wait to show them that they dont understand game development. But if people post on an almost daily basis 'the community is a toxic evil cult' that is just 'haha hyperbole, wy u so erious?!!?".
When one SC member posts a death threat some here go on and on for pages about how terribly murderous the community is, how sick of a cult etc. When a bunch of ED players send death threats and try to doxx multiple fellow community members its the usual 'yeah, you always have bad apples.' while on the very same page chastising the SC community for 'not standing against the bad apples'. Recently some dudes pointed and laughed at a fellow community member here because his house burned down. In real life. Bad apples, I guess.
Its so blatantly obvious: everything wrong in community you are part of? Bad apples. The other community? "SEE THEY ARE EVIL CULT TOXIC TERRIBLE RAAAAAARRRRR!". Its a shame. Because in an ideal world people would stand up to bizarre crap such as the above regardless of community, and would leave people who just like other games alone already. Even if you think they look funny, or speak funny, or you disagree about the game. And unfortunatrly this topic is frequented by a few people so blinded with anger and frustration they cant just bring them to adhere to these basic guidelines of normal behavior.
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I personally are more concerned with the implications this could have on crowdfunding should Star Citizen go down the drain. True some Kickstarters are pure scams, but it did give us a lot of games that would never had seen the light of day otherwise. So in that regard at least I'm rooting for SC to deliver something final. But it is hard not to see the cracks in the facade when they present basically the same thing every year telling us that it's coming soon.
Nah. There have been a few people, but this is an unfair mischaracterisation.
Please note: don't give me an infraction for this too please, it's still about SC and what's going on around it.
Actually, I think this is kinda needed. If not SC, than something else. KS as a format is fun, interesting and promising. But its also wildly unregulated and a bit of a wild west. Something needs to go POOF in a big way so we can go towards a KS 2.0 that holds those looking for money responsible for what they do. Traditional investors have a decent set of tools, but kickstarters get the negatives of both investors and 'early adapters'. And unless something fundamental changes, people's confidence in the platform will slowly evaporate. And change only comes from a big event. If nothing else, that could be the positive influence of SC.
Oh sure, as with anything: its a diverse crowd with multiple perspectives. So please take 'some' literally here, it would be pure hypocrisy if I would claim everyone here would be tarring others with the same brush.
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Right, so when a bunch of people tell people 'you dont understand game development' it is perfectly normal to sulk away, request a ban and pay real money to get access to a safe forum where such horrible things aren't uttered. All while repeatedly lamenting the horror of people once accusing him of not understanding game development, while saying he cant wait to show them that they dont understand game development. But if people post on an almost daily basis 'the community is a toxic evil cult' that is just 'haha hyperbole, wy u so erious?!!?".
When one SC member posts a death threat some here go on and on for pages about how terribly murderous the community is, how sick of a cult etc. When a bunch of ED players send death threats and try to doxx multiple fellow community members its the usual 'yeah, you always have bad apples.' while on the very same page chastising the SC community for 'not standing against the bad apples'. Recently some dudes pointed and laughed at a fellow community member here because his house burned down. In real life. Bad apples, I guess.
Its so blatantly obvious: everything wrong in community you are part of? Bad apples. The other community? "SEE THEY ARE EVIL CULT TOXIC TERRIBLE RAAAAAARRRRR!". Its a shame. Because in an ideal world people would stand up to bizarre crap such as the above regardless of community, and would leave people who just like other games alone already. Even if you think they look funny, or speak funny, or you disagree about the game. And unfortunatrly this topic is frequented by a few people so blinded with anger and frustration they cant just bring them to adhere to these basic guidelines of normal behavior.
Sending virtual rep. Ive been saying this for years
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Right, so when a bunch of people tell people 'you dont understand game development' it is perfectly normal to sulk away, request a ban and pay real money to get access to a safe forum where such horrible things aren't uttered. All while repeatedly lamenting the horror of people once accusing him of not understanding game development, while saying he cant wait to show them that they dont understand game development. But if people post on an almost daily basis 'the community is a toxic evil cult' that is just 'haha hyperbole, wy u so erious?!!?".
When one SC member posts a death threat some here go on and on for pages about how terribly murderous the community is, how sick of a cult etc. When a bunch of ED players send death threats and try to doxx multiple fellow community members its the usual 'yeah, you always have bad apples.' while on the very same page chastising the SC community for 'not standing against the bad apples'. Recently some dudes pointed and laughed at a fellow community member here because his house burned down. In real life. Bad apples, I guess.
Its so blatantly obvious: everything wrong in community you are part of? Bad apples. The other community? "SEE THEY ARE EVIL CULT TOXIC TERRIBLE RAAAAAARRRRR!". Its a shame. Because in an ideal world people would stand up to bizarre crap such as the above regardless of community, and would leave people who just like other games alone already. Even if you think they look funny, or speak funny, or you disagree about the game. And unfortunatrly this topic is frequented by a few people so blinded with anger and frustration they cant just bring them to adhere to these basic guidelines of normal behavior.
I honestly don't know what to make of this. I feel like there's a lot of disingenuity, misrepresentation and usage of outliers to make an extreme point while also claiming people should not be doing such things...
Odd.
I wouldn't be in any club that would have me as a member... Plus I can't afford to join the Million Mile High Club...
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