Actually yes, you are right, the way David replied is a little ambiguous.
Where is the paid 'content' LEP holder get for 'free'
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Actually yes, you are right, the way David replied is a little ambiguous.
Do you really believe That this is a scam?
Here's something interesting:
Viajero
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Stop the tease
I personally think space legs is prolly very far away in the future. Will. eat. sock. if. in. next. update.Stop the tease
Someone said that before ... and had to eat a sock.
An LEP isn't an investment it's a gamble.
He's also right about your comparison being ludicrous.
DeathStroke
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It's getting hard not too.
If that's true, FD is in violation of some countries laws, as some countries forbid online gambling. But they arn't in trouble, because it's not gambling is's an investment. Your comparison is ludicrous.
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is that a euphemism?
Viajero
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Well, for one thing at least and as far as I know, FDEV still carries a fraction of the moneys from the LPE pre purchase as a liability in its books. I would need to see the latest update of the annual accounts but if that is still the case it becomes really difficult for FDEV to profit from such a "scam" unless it actually delivers content for it and can transform those liabilities into actual revenue.
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On the topic of Expo, the transcript of the launchday livestream was:
- "Q: Is the Expo on again this year? A: There will be another Expo, we haven't said what the date is, when it will be. They won't be regularly every year, they'll be at the right time."
- Regularly = "with a constant or definite pattern, especially with the same space between individual items."
- "That's baiting, we haven't announced anything about FX will be at Pax West and Twitchcon though!"
- Pax West is 31st Aug to 3rd Sep, one week after Gamescom (FDev have a press-only booth at the latter). TwitchCon is 26th to 28th Oct.
It's also a little difficult to yell scam years prior to the end of the delivery window.
I've no idea what you're on about here.
Indeed. We know Premium Content is coming in 2018, and we've already had Horizons, so "never" is already nullified assuming you bought the Lifetime Expansion Pass as an "investment".
Found it: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/280009951 Time 36:45
Ed says something like that "...I think [...] David said maybe not this year, but that's something we definitely will do at some point".
I translate it as pretty safe call of not having FX in 2018.
Not really. It is called bad investment. Being it a scam is that it was never intended to deliver anything in first place. Which is simply not true in case of LEP for ED.
Ed says something like that "...I think [...] David said maybe not this year, but that's something we definitely will do at some point".
I translate it as pretty safe call of not having FX in 2018.
Not really. It is called bad investment. Being it a scam is that it was never intended to deliver anything in first place. Which is simply not true in case of LEP for ED.
Actually as I rain on parade quite a bit, I will call this not very clear either. Recently Ed has been asked about premium content and he hasn't been very clear about is it coming in this year, just as "coming".
Viajero
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What delivery window?
Ten year plan.
DeathStroke
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If you tell your landlord your rent check is coming over and over for months, you get evicted. If you tell your bank your car payment is coming over and over for months, your car gets repossessed. If you tell your boss your work is coming over and over for months, you get fired.
The best scams give the victim just a little back. This can convince some that it's not a scam, and will draw new victims. ISK doubling scams are common in EVE, they give some people a small amount back, which convinces them go try again with more, then they don't get any back.
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Jeez louise some of you guys defending FD with lines like "well you took a risk with the LTP" etc..
No. People. Didn't.
FDev a company based in the UK where UK laws apply They sold "something". They must deliver on that or pay refunds (well unless they want a load of people to take them to the small claims court, again). Since they didn't set a timescale that "something" can be delivered whenever but they have to deliver. Stop arguing against that as you look like corporate shills of the worst kind.
Now FDev could get around it by releasing any old tat and saying they fulfilled their end of the bargain. Doesn't make good business sense to burn some of your biggest fans but FDev have done that before so we'll see.
I technically paid £35 for the LTP so I'm not rioting like I would be if I'd paid £120 like some suckers.....I mean customers paid for it but it's yet another shady action from FDev in a long list of shady actions for those paying attention.
No. People. Didn't.
FDev a company based in the UK where UK laws apply They sold "something". They must deliver on that or pay refunds (well unless they want a load of people to take them to the small claims court, again). Since they didn't set a timescale that "something" can be delivered whenever but they have to deliver. Stop arguing against that as you look like corporate shills of the worst kind.
Now FDev could get around it by releasing any old tat and saying they fulfilled their end of the bargain. Doesn't make good business sense to burn some of your biggest fans but FDev have done that before so we'll see.
I technically paid £35 for the LTP so I'm not rioting like I would be if I'd paid £120 like some suckers.....I mean customers paid for it but it's yet another shady action from FDev in a long list of shady actions for those paying attention.
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Or even the three and a half years from the FD financial report from May 2017 quoted
Viajero
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I do not recall any statement by FDEV about LPE content linked to any 10 year plan.
FDEV famous 10 year plan mentioned verbally at a Lavecom some time ago is probably no different from the standard long term horizon planning companies (any company) with long cycle times (multi year or so) tend to develop for scope and funding forecast purposes, nothing more nothing less. They are typically updated dynamically as the company goes.
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