You're being very generous for no apparent reason here, but I suppose that's the nature of faith…
The Star Citizen Thread v9
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You're being very generous for no apparent reason here, but I suppose that's the nature of faith…
I assume they can C&P assets from Olisar. But yeah, maybe generous...
At least that would make sense.
A) the funding chart is buggus, B) they are deviating money to somewhere, C) They are incompetent and just wasting it all on pizza and stupid furnitures.
Viajero
Volunteer Moderator
They are buying their way into a virtual world, and the pledge value is their status. It's more like a Philip K short story than a crowdfunded game.
Goose4291
Banned
Is it wrong I want to create an account just so I can direct them to the Modes saltfest subforum here?
Same as the fanatics and whales, its their/your money man so whatever makes you happy. Just dont expect a warm welcome or restrained human interaction when you make your "suggestions" ^^
Jacques d'Orleans
Banned
Sunk Cost Fallacy
There is no confirmed public information available about Croberts problematic past in the gaming industry. It's all watercooler talk.
Internally in the industry he has been known as failure, but that wasn't public knowledge in 2012.
Predatory marketing.
Major players of the industry employ psychologists for the sole purpose of extracting more money out of people with mental illnesses, addiction and gambling issues. You can call this "black psychology" if you want. We all know that the industry has no ethics at all.
That is why we have consumer protection and gambling laws: Because it's uneven playing field from the start.
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In continued other news:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/8ynrel/i_lost_in_court/e2djexh/
This will end well… [haha]
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/8ynrel/i_lost_in_court/e2djexh/
firefly212 said:
This will end well… [haha]
So, in essence they are saying that it is a purchase until the statutory 14 day refund period expires and then it is a donation?
Who has ever heard of such nonsense?
I got a question to 3.2 and mining as there are contradictory statements about it. The question is.....
Is the Prospector available for free to all alpha testers or only to the people who purchased it with RL $$$?
The reason is that a lot of statements claim that "the Prospector is available to everybody on the current PTU" and I wonder if people *WANT* to misunderstand the question or simply reply to a different question alltogether flat out refusing to acknowledge the question. Like what they are saying is "yes the Prospector is currently in the game so if you happen to come across one you can use it" which is *NOT* the question but as the same reply is given through clarifications I wonder what it is now?
Is the Prospector available for free to all alpha testers or only to the people who purchased it with RL $$$?
The reason is that a lot of statements claim that "the Prospector is available to everybody on the current PTU" and I wonder if people *WANT* to misunderstand the question or simply reply to a different question alltogether flat out refusing to acknowledge the question. Like what they are saying is "yes the Prospector is currently in the game so if you happen to come across one you can use it" which is *NOT* the question but as the same reply is given through clarifications I wonder what it is now?
I guess it paves the way for even more "game" developers marketing and taking pre-order cash as "crowd funding" for titles they don't even need to think about releasing as a complete product that stands up on it's own merits. It also gives "game" developers a great way to avoid all that annoying customer support and having to complete anything or worrying about regulatory bodies or consumer reviews. Maybe we can expect similar churches for EA and Ubisoft to start taking donations shortly.
When you think about it you'd be barking mad to set up a business using the old tried and tested model of making a great video game that makes money based on how good it actually delivers when the new perpetual pay to win, crowd funding system takes everything clean away from the consumer by making the "game" company a tribal charity of self congratulatory marketing. Thanks Chris Roberts.
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Indeed. EU and AUS have much better consumer protection laws, it would be good to see a couple of small claims action in both areas.
I do not understand why CIG have taken this stance. They have received 189 million dollars, I am sure they can afford to refund a few thousand. It's also a well known fact that companies with good refund policies also benefit from more custom.
So far as I am aware, even in the PTU, when you go to the console you can only summon the ships you have bought and have sitting in your hangar. There is no facility to "Try before you buy / donate / give to the church of Roberts"
As far as I can tell selling any goods, digital or otherwise, without a delivery date is in breach of the consumer legislation in the UK.
I have seen no indication this year that any of the UK guys who want a refund have the sense, inclination or intelligence to exercise their consumer rights, and are much happier to sit on a reddit thread waiting for a 'refund specialist'.
The refunds stopped with 3.0 and the arbitration clause. Game's out, too late, enjoy your game, pledge more.
Viajero
Volunteer Moderator
Ah, that is news. Thought in PTU you could just summon any ship. Can someone who has the latest ptu installed confirm?
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