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Robin of Spiritwood

Robin of Spiritwood
Imported US beef, ham, milk and cheese is selling at half price in our local grocery today. It seems there is a gigantic foreign surplus, and they are desperate to move it at any price.

Clearly, this is no time to fast!
 

Zak Gordon

Zak Gordon
Personally i wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, too many nasty additives and animal anti-biotics. The UK is going to see A LOT of this kind of thing in the not too distant future.
 

Gun Star

Gun Star
Zak Gordon said:
Personally i wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, too many nasty additives and animal anti-biotics. The UK is going to see A LOT of this kind of thing in the not too distant future.
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Depends on the meat. If it is beef and corn fed then yes it probably has antibiotics. If it is grass fed not so much to worry about.

The part in the US I live in most milk,cheese, and meats are going away from hormones and antibiotics because people started not buying it. I also live near farm areas and mostly buy stuff that is grown or made locally.
 

Vasco Sapien

Vasco Sapien
Zak Gordon said:
Personally i wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, too many nasty additives and animal anti-biotics. The UK is going to see A LOT of this kind of thing in the not too distant future.
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Which is one reason why i am now considering vegetarianism..

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Nope.

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Chaparral

Chaparral
Something must die every day so that I may live.

Mufasa knows you need to get with the program.

Factory farms, not so ethical - but we all like to eat right? Try to make a BLT on your own for $5. Good luck.
 

Chaparral

Chaparral
Bob Lighthouse said:
Pigs grow incredibly fast and bacon is artificially expensive at the market.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-bacon-boom-was-not-an-accident-183621427.html
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I haven't personally raised a pig, I haven't personally slaughtered a pig, I haven't personally cured bacon - but I'm pretty sure it would be more expensive than buying a pack at our local supermarket. If I have to pay $6 for a pack my family enjoys because I'm being gouged, it's still going to be cheaper than the alternative.
 

Bob Lighthouse

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Bob Lighthouse
Commander Danicus said:
I haven't personally raised a pig, I haven't personally slaughtered a pig, I haven't personally cured bacon - but I'm pretty sure it would be more expensive than buying a pack at our local supermarket. If I have to pay $6 for a pack my family enjoys because I'm being gouged, it's still going to be cheaper than the alternative.
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You are missing the point.
I have done all of the above, including curing the bacon.

Pigs take almost no care.
In 6 mos you can have a 200lb pig, easy, and 300 is not unheard of.
The belly (for US style bacon) is the largest cut.

Even accounting for economy of scale, bacon is currently very "expensive" in the supermarket.
They literally used to give it away. See the article I provided.
 

Rob At Work

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There is an obvious surplus of food in the USA, if you leave it there they will eat even more and even the A380 will need to be even bigger.
 

Bob Lighthouse

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Bob Lighthouse
Zak Gordon said:
You choice, your life. Rising cancer rates are coming from many sources and what we ingest is just one of the vectors.
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I suggest it has more to do with increased life span and wiping out many other forms of earlier death.
We've doubled our life expectancy at birth in just over 100 years.
Many people dying of cancer would never have made it this far in times past, nor would they neccesarily have been diagnosed if they died from cancer.
Even in a hospital setting, their cause of death might have simply read "natural causes" in earlier times.
 

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Bob Lighthouse said:
I suggest it has more to do with increased life span and wiping out many other forms of earlier death.
We've doubled our life expectancy at birth in just over 100 years.
Many people dying of cancer would never have made it this far in times past, nor would they neccesarily have been diagnosed if they died from cancer.
Even in a hospital setting, their cause of death might have simply read "natural causes" in earlier times.
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This. People have been dying of cancer ever since people started dying.
 

Bob Lighthouse

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Bob Lighthouse
vindelanos said:
This. People have been dying of cancer ever since people started dying.
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I heard a really great description of how genetic anomalies affect individuals differently.
It's just math.
Some algorithms (your particular makeup/code) are more susceptible to large deviations from small errors than others.
One small error may have no effect on individual A, but start a cascade of problems in individual B.

Since our lifespans are increasing, those people who are susceptible to those small errors are becoming more apparent.
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
To OP - yeah, basically Trump shoot himself in a foot big style, resulting in huge surplus of meat and co.

As for meat, cancer, etc. - I think if you avoid meat just because of cancer, I don't think there's evidence for that. If you avoid meat for moral and diet reasons - fair enough.
 
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