No Man's Sky recent success is good sign for Elite and future Space games/sims

[askavir]

While the 2 games are extremely different on their focus and their approach to "space" (I'm calling it space in NMS just for the sake of argument), I always hoped that the initial sales success of NMS would serve as an example that FD would have a lot to gain by investing in the exploration part of the game. Unfortunately that didn't happen yet.

FD's representation of space and the galaxy is a billion light years ahead of NMS (and any other space game), now if they would take notice in the blatant huge market in search of a decent space exploration game, and managed to invest in ED's greatest asset (the galaxy) to expand this part of the game much further, they could swallow that market easily.

 

[DoppelGanger]

I don't give a rats backside about terrain manipulation.

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Elite has literally none of those listed things or in a very sparse or limited way and you think Elite is still superior in those listed points?
It's factually wrong.

What Elite can do is take it an example of what to do or don't do, make it in their own way, and improve on the formula.

Those things have yet to come and they didn't yet, so no way you can say Elite is superior in those points.

And Engineers are crafting? Plants in Elite? a 1/1000000 chance of random spawn of some bubble plants? Are you serious?

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Ivan, chill. Please get NMS and play it. Enjoy it. Enjoy life. If you feel ED will be dead, then why you are here even? Remember, we are just someones online having opinion. There's almost 100k people playing NMS and having fun and NOT arguing on Internet how good it is. I guess they have better time than all of us.

 

[IVAN__V]

Elite has literally none of those listed things or in a very sparse or limited way and you think Elite is still superior in those listed points?
It's factually wrong.

What Elite can do is take it an example of what to do or don't do, make it in their own way, and improve on the formula.

Those things have yet to come and they didn't yet, so no way you can say Elite is superior in those points.

And Engineers are crafting? Plants in Elite? a 1/1000000 chance of random spawn of some bubble plants? Are you serious?

Finally someone else can compare with honesty.

Ivan, chill. Please get NMS and play it. Enjoy it. Enjoy life. If you feel ED will be dead, then why you are here even? Remember, we are just someones online having opinion. There's almost 100k people playing NMS and having fun and NOT arguing on Internet how good it is. I guess they have better time than all of us.

Nah matey..you chill after you justify the stuff you say.

How is NOT having terrain manipulation superior to having it ?

 

[Wasp0]

Hmmm, This one is warming up nicely.

Contributed to thread, only to notified of further Septic post(s) by the usual people!

Popcorn nicely popping in the Microwave as i type.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Elite has literally none of those listed things or in a very sparse or limited way and you think Elite is still superior in those listed points?
It's factually wrong.

What Elite can do is take it an example of what to do or don't do, make it in their own way, and improve on the formula.

Those things have yet to come and they didn't yet, so no way you can say Elite is superior in those points.

You know, you would think that after all these six years of "who's gonna win space game gauntlet" people would have realized there is no superiority because of bullet list of features.

It is how games work - or not - for individual human being. Period. That's how it goes. If lot of people enjoy crafting and manipulating terrain and base building - they will do that, they will play game who offers that. Nothing superior about that, it is just having a nice thing that scratches your itch.

I really should care less, because this is as pointless arguing on Internet goes, but I really feel that people should just let it go.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

No. it doesn't work like that. You're saying that having no terrain manipulation makes ED superior ? Also no space legs makes ED superior ? Also no base building mkes ED superior ? No crafting makes ED superior ? No procedural generation creatures and plants makes ED superior ? No relics to be dug out from the terrain makes ED superior ?
So a VW Golf not having a Lambo's speed and acceleration or luxury interior makes the Golf superior ?

The best selling game of all time is Tetris, which is based on a "lining up falling blocks to make them disappear" mechanic.

Neither ED nor NMS have the ability to line up falling blocks to make them disappear.

Clearly whichever game adds this crucial feature first will corner the market.

(And how Tetris managed to succeed without space legs, base building, crafting, or procedurally generated plants remains a mystery)

 

[cheesenbiscuits]

I see it more like,if ED was made into a movie franchise,NMS would be Lego Elite Dangerous. Something to keep the kids occupied on a Sunday afternoon.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Elite has literally none of those listed things or in a very sparse or limited way and you think Elite is still superior in those listed points?
It's factually wrong.

That is not what I said or what the poster is on about.

What Elite can do is take it an example of what to do or don't do, make it in their own way, and improve on the formula.

ED are/will create what they think is best for ED.

Those things have yet to come and they didn't yet, so no way you can say Elite is superior in those points.

I think you are not understanding the point. Just because a game has something that the other hasn't doesn't make it a superior game. Most of those listed parts I have no interest in or no interest in that implementation of them.

That does not make NMS a superior game. It is just different. I do not like NMS implementation of the features so to me they are irrelevant as to whether NMS is a superior game.

 

[the100thmonkey]

Some people like to play Mario Kart (NMS), while other like to play Project Cars (ED).

Personally, I've tried NMS NEXT, and it's OK, but so many irritating details that I don't like or enjoy. Nowehere is truly lonely. Space is so full of rocks that it's laughable. Relics/trading posts/anything and actions and results of interactions are all virtually identical wherever you happen to travel. Much prefer the realistic galaxy of E: D, and the detailed (if not fully newtonian) flight model. Graphics, too, look far superior in E: D

Having said that I haven't flown my Clipper for a couple of months now, but that's summer for you.

o7

What seems to be at issue here is whether both Mario Kart and Project Cars are driving games.

If they are, then Super Mario Kart is the best driving game ever by dint of the fact that it's the best game ever.

 

[VR Morgan Grimes]

And i bet you that today i can play tetris in NMS NEXT. I'll grab the terrain manipulation tool, dig up the terrain to form to tetris box and tetris shapes, it only takes one in fact, and cut the last bit of dirt and let it fall into the box...prest tetris inside NMS.

Please do this and post to youtube

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

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And Engineers are crafting? Plants in Elite? a 1/1000000 chance of random spawn of some bubble plants? Are you serious?

Engineers are crafting.
Collect stuff. Click around. Get better things. Repeat. Basically the same as in NMS.

NMS simply spawns very similar plants and animals on most planets/moons.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

The thing about unlocking language parts I found initially very interesting. But I kinda don't want to grind resources all the time to give +1 minute to my life support.

 

[IVAN__V]

The thing about unlocking language parts I found initially very interesting. But I kinda don't want to grind resources all the time to give +1 minute to my life support.

Apparently you can use batteries and stock then on the ship and teleport them to you, so no more sodium hunting.

Please do this and post to youtube

I will once i buy the game on next paycheck. Then you'll admit that NMS is superior to ED cause it's got tetris ?

 

[Vorxian]

OP - NMS was the biggest FAIL EVER when it released.

Hello Games needed to stick the tail between their legs, LISTEN to the community, and release promised content.

Credit where credit is due. They listened. They developed. They released.

From the pit of absolute fail now came a title that sits proudly in my collection. NMS has been turned around, and the recent influx of POSITIVE reviews reflects that.

FDEV could be way more transparent with the community, as like HELLO Games were / are, and be way more active in their community involvement... but FDEV are on the right track. I just wish they were open to the community rather than phenomenal stretches of media blackout and letting the speculations spiral out of control.

 

[M00ka]

One aspects of this never ending argument is WHY? NMS and ED are vastly different games, in fact I think NMS is more akin to traditional MMO's and even games like FarCry. My reasoning: whenever someone is extolling the virtues of NMS, they talk about the walking, running, crafting, shooting aspects of the game - all activities carried out on foot so to speak. Which is very similar to how you play a game like FarCry: pick plants, kill animals for meat and skins, make game elements. Strangely they never talk about the flying, you know, the SPACE aspects of the game. Strange huh!

 

[VR Morgan Grimes]

I will once i buy the game on next paycheck. Then you'll admit that NMS is superior to ED cause it's got tetris ?

You don't even own the game? lmao.

 

[M00ka]

You don't even own the game? lmao.

Yeah, really pathetic isn't it. His entire argument about the superiority of the game is based on youtube clips. Wouldn't it be ironic if this time next week (or whenever he gets paid) we see him back telling us how terrible NMS is lol

 

[DoppelGanger]

OP - NMS was the biggest FAIL EVER when it released.

Hello Games needed to stick the tail between their legs, LISTEN to the community, and release promised content.

Credit where credit is due. They listened. They developed. They released.

From the pit of absolute fail now came a title that sits proudly in my collection. NMS has been turned around, and the recent influx of POSITIVE reviews reflects that.

FDEV could be way more transparent with the community, as like HELLO Games were / are, and be way more active in their community involvement... but FDEV are on the right track. I just wish they were open to the community rather than phenomenal stretches of media blackout and letting the speculations spiral out of control.

You are right, Hello Games really turned around. The negativity and backlash was overwhelming and they were able to almost redeem themselves.

I still have high hopes for Elite that will put an amazing patch (high hopes for beyond 4th updated, with issues of course, but should be amazing), where thousands of players will be returning and playing for months.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

You don't even own the game? lmao.

You can't make this stuff up.

I have NMS and have played the most recent version. Still not my cup of tea. But I have nothing against other people playing it, liking it and enjoying it more then ED.