If I may ask: What has tactical and more nuanced to do with physical? Chess is ten times more tactical and nuanced, but would you call it physical? If yes to that I'm afraid we've left any common ground here...
It's a few years ago that I've played EVE but unless they've massively improved their collision detection then a big NO from here. NO WAY! At these times we could mysteriously fly through stations, is this still the case? Is/was ramming ever a thing in EVE? These are uncertainties as I haven't played it over the last couple of years and maybe not played long enough (a few month at best).
But here's what I'm certain about: EVE has no planetary landings and has no idea of gravity. But eventually I'm not going to argue here, it's the "feel" of true physics
oh, you meant that. well, elite has no true physics either. by saying you 'feel' them you're just conveying that the particular abstraction is convincing to you. an eve player might aswell feel convinced by the physics of eve, even if there are no collisions, no gravity and no planetary landings, you still can accelerate, orbit, etc. btw, why would anybody want to ram his spaceship in space if not in a desperate suicidal move??? [haha]
i honestly thought you meant physical as opposed to 'spreadsheet game', which is how eve is often depicted here, for whatever lunatic reason. my bad.
that not at least stems from ED's strict first person view and is what really matters to me. Don't let me start about what's really repelling me from EVE...
fine. doesn't detract in the slightest form the fact you quoted that re
gameplay elite could learn a lot from eve. a huge lot. no one is asking for 6000 ship battles. but what about a few hundred? a few dozens? what about some battle at all? oh, yes, conflict zones! what was i thinking
what about resources really being processed and defining trade, what about politics being something more than a text tag defined by a percentage?
Sure. I could be pope if, if and when this or that blah blah. And you certainly know exactly how this would be achieved in ED, right?
this is where your car analogy fails. it's not one or the other. the only obstacle for elite not having the depth of eve is the ability and intent of the designers, it isn't an unsurmountable problem, it isn't a disproportionate amount of (extra) work, it isn't inherently incompatible. it's just a matter of will, talent and knowledge. which was the point: they could have learnt from eve, which had done it, they could have given it some thought and would have made a much richer game with similar effort, and by that i mean much more in tune with their own aspirations: "In an age of galactic superpowers and interstellar war, every player's story influences the connected gaming experience and evolving narrative. Governments fall, battles are lost and won, and humanity's frontier is reshaped, all by players' actions". which eve is and elite, god save the physics, isn't. and that doesn't mean turning elite into eve at all.
For starters, ED would "only" need a CPU cluster like 70 Dual-CPU-Blades with AMDs Opteron and then I still highly doubt that it would work. Mind you, EVE is basically click and point and not a twitched based game.
for what? i don't see what 'twitch' gameplay has to do with economy or resource managing, but anyway eve was running a complex economy for 5k systems 10 years before elite started developement, the bubble is about 19k systems, so four times that. in those 10 years conventional computer performance had already increased by nearly a factor of 10 and conventional storage capacity went from 200gb to 4tb, aprox a factor of 20. frontier deliberately chose not to allow players any influence on those systems (beyond the naivety of the bgs), even after advertising it. don't ask me why, but for sure it wasn't technical limitations.
It never fails to baffle me why people who obviously like EVE better than ED while only loving certain aspects of ED don't go to the EVE forums and make some proposals there instead of trying to skew ED in its current form?
dunno. maybe you're still missing or ignoring the point. incidentally i barely play eve anymore, but i do play elite. would be dumb for me to demand elite 'becoming' eve, don't you think? that doesn't mean that eve contributed a lot from which elite could have learned just a bit. that was the point.
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