Why does my 34th century spaceship have no autopilot OR how do you accept the hyperjump grind?

[VR StarLightPL]

The Entertainment part is your lack of knowledge of bots and how they affect the gameplay for other people. Maybe do your research before you posting again and we really don't care about your fast car. My guess it a Pimped out pinto.

Who is this "we" you speak of? And you still didn't answer the question... Also, who are "other people" in solo? I see only NPCs? Maybe it's the space madness is getting to you, consult prof. Palin. He could have something for that, as he requires the 5kLy trip Hmmm... maybe it is done on purpose to study space madness?! First symptoms: talking in plural

 

[Dbrn47]

Wonder how many of those that are pro autopilot for travel are against, or look down, on anyone who uses a docking computer?

What makes you think anyone is or does? Logically if someone is pro-autopilot they wouldn't be against autodocking. Not everyone thinks logically, but I can't imagine very many would be against a docking computer while supporting a travel computer.

The docking computer is actually a decent example of an automated system that alleviates some repetition while having some limititations and being optional. I don't personally use it, but I have used it before and I just prefer doing it manually. No scale ruined, nothing trivialized, just a cool tool that I have decided not to use.

 

[Stealthie]

The docking computer is actually a decent example of an automated system that alleviates some repetition while having some limititations and being optional. I don't personally use it, but I have used it before and I just prefer doing it manually. No scale ruined, nothing trivialized, just a cool tool that I have decided not to use.

It also takes up a slot, docks your ship quite slowly, doesn't try to avoid scans, can cause you to incur fines for collisions and, very rarely, will faceplant your ship into the front of a station with potentially lethal results.

I wonder if people would be willing to accept comparable limitations, inadequacies and flaws in an inter-system autopilot?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It also takes up a slot, docks your ship quite slowly, doesn't try to avoid scans, can cause you to incur fines for collisions and, very rarely, will faceplant your ship into the front of a station with potentially lethal results.

I wonder if people would be willing to accept comparable limitations, inadequacies and flaws in an inter-system autopilot?

"Frontier your autopilot sucks! You are all terrible developers! Something, something Hello Games."

 

[Stealthie]

"Frontier your autopilot sucks! You are all terrible developers! Something, something Hello Games."

"Wah! I wuz half way to Beagle Point when I got back from the supermarket and found I'm looking at the rebuy screen. This game sux!!!!!"

 

[M00ka]

It also takes up a slot, docks your ship quite slowly, doesn't try to avoid scans, can cause you to incur fines for collisions and, very rarely, will faceplant your ship into the front of a station with potentially lethal results.

I wonder if people would be willing to accept comparable limitations, inadequacies and flaws in an inter-system autopilot?

Wow, any excuse to rubbish the game, really clutching at straws aren't you. According to you, I must have the most unique docking computer in the game, I have never had a crash when it was operating, I have never incurred a fine when using, it actually does go to full boost when manoeuvring to get the correct angle to enter the station. Yes of course you get scanned when using it, YOU ARE UNDER CONTROL OF THE DAMN STATION! If you don't want to get scanned, you fly manually into the station, once past the slot, throttle back to zero and the DC takes over.

Wonder what part of the game you will start to rubbish next, might have to make a poll!

 

[Stealthie]

Wow, any excuse to rubbish the game, really clutching at straws aren't you. According to you, I must have the most unique docking computer in the game, I have never had a crash when it was operating, I have never incurred a fine when using, it actually does go to full boost when manoeuvring to get the correct angle to enter the station. Yes of course you get scanned when using it, YOU ARE UNDER CONTROL OF THE DAMN STATION! If you don't want to get scanned, you fly manually into the station, once past the slot, throttle back to zero and the DC takes over.

Wonder what part of the game you will start to rubbish next, might have to make a poll!

Geez, take a chill pill.

I'm not "rubbishing the game".
I'm simply pointing out that there ARE a variety of disadvantages to using a DC as well as the benefit of convenience.

I think it's only fair that any kind of inter-system autopilot would also have some disadvantages as well.

Trouble is, if you're half way to Beagle Point, almost any disadvantage that manifests itself is going to ruin your day completely.

 

[rp198419]

See I'm, not the one asking for LazyPilot. Players who are asking for it are going to be doing something else with there time while the game is playing itself. Watch TV, Youtube, Facebook and so on.

So the question becomes are you really playing the game? If you are doing other things. The answer is NO. So the feature should not be added.

Also, you cater to people who program bots and they can sell that software to people like you. Then you get tired of the game and quit playing.

I rather have people post ideas that worth while that enhance the game. Not ideas that ruin the game play.

What a ridiculous argument you present.

How others play the game is up to them - not you. You don't have to use AP if you don't want to.

 

[VR StarLightPL]

Wow, any excuse to rubbish the game, really clutching at straws aren't you.

Hold your White Horse M00ka Accusing Stealthie of trashing when he's one of the most level headed posters around here? Pure madness, this guy has always been pro-elite in my book, but never did post anything stupid zealous enough to get him knighted in my eyes

 

[rp198419]

Except it'll trivialize travel...

...not if you don't use it.

Dude, the grind is the game. What you suggest above might be the thin end of the wedge. If you start finding ways to get rid of the grind you might end up getting rid of the game.

...or you might end up with a better game.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

How others play the game is up to them - not you.

Frontier has a thing or two to say about it as well.

You don't have to use AP if you don't want to.

That still leaves the option of arguing against an AP if you feel it's a terrible feature.

 

[Morbad]

...not if you don't use it.

Travel is something people have to do to manipulate the game and faster travel increases the speed, magnitude, and reach of their influence. It has consequences, even for those who don't utilize those aspects that trivialize travel themselves.

 

[TiberiusDuval]

Travelling may be somewhat boring, but it really makes one appreciate how mind blowingly big Galaxy is. If you want to explore, that means travelling. Hyperjumping itself does not irritate me, fuel consumption does. It would be nice to have some gadget etc. taking space in ship and perhaps having other downsides to make ship able to jump something like 100 jumps with standard fuel tanks. As fuel scooping tends to get on nerves over time.

 

[Vorxian]

I don't think trivializing travel is the agenda.. I think it's exposing a hole in the content around travel mechanics.

People say space is big... well it is.. BUT

Back in time, so was your town. People never used to travel far from villages until a better method of transport came to be, the horse and cart opened local trade etc.

Then people said the county was BIG. Horse and cart was sill a major issue, travel took lots of planning and it was only done when needed.

Then people said the country was BIG until cars made the country a lot smaller. Motorized transport facilitated leisure travel and as cars become more common, people travelling the country became easier, and quicker.

Then, people looked to the horizon. The Earth IS BIG! With the dawn of aircraft, it made travelling between countries easier and quicker. No longer were people stuck in their village, they were basking on beaches in another continent. Today aircraft are still getting bigger, faster, more reliable, and cheaper. Now, you can bask on a beach the other side of the world in a matter of a day.

Then with the dawn of space, people started to leave earth. People thought Earth was big, the solar system was HUGE! but, as propulsion systems advanced, man began to build colonies in space, in giant stations. Man made objects the size of entire towns. People could traverse the solar system in a matter of hours. People could get up out of bed at 7am, and from earth, go on a day trip to Neptune, take some holiday snaps, and be back on earth in time for a light lunch. The solar system wasn't so big after all.

THEN came hyperspace travel. Neighboring systems were seconds away. Now, you could visit Cirius and be back in an afternoon. Mankind had conquered interstellar travel, our sector wasn't so big after all.

THEN with the dawn of quantum slipstream drives, we found ourselves being able to traverse distances our ancestors would have thought only possible by the gods. Technology had arrived that got us to the other side of the galaxy in the time it took to have a bath... The galaxy wasn't so big after all.

Explorers turned their gaze outwards. Andromeda was in sight. The birth of the singularity drive had arrived. Test probes have proven singularity drive propulsion to be safe, and a monkey has made a round trip to the outer arms of Andromeda in 2 days. Scientists are confident that mankind will have its first outposts there in 18 months.


Lets stop hamstringing ED with silly limitations. Technology progressing means freedom beyond the limitation of arbitrary lore.

The Galaxy IS big, but, so once was our villages.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

What a ridiculous argument you present.

How others play the game is up to them - not you. You don't have to use AP if you don't want to.

In a multiplayer game, game decisions affect everybody.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I don't think trivializing travel is the agenda.. I think it's exposing a hole in the content around travel mechanics.

People say space is big... well it is.. BUT

Back in time, so was your town. People never used to travel far from villages until a better method of transport came to be, the horse and cart opened local trade etc.

Then people said the county was BIG. Horse and cart was sill a major issue, travel took lots of planning and it was only done when needed.

Then people said the country was BIG until cars made the country a lot smaller. Motorized transport facilitated leisure travel and as cars become more common, people travelling the country became easier, and quicker.

Then, people looked to the horizon. The Earth IS BIG! With the dawn of aircraft, it made travelling between countries easier and quicker. No longer were people stuck in their village, they were basking on beaches in another continent. Today aircraft are still getting bigger, faster, more reliable, and cheaper. Now, you can bask on a beach the other side of the world in a matter of a day.

Then with the dawn of space, people started to leave earth. People thought Earth was big, the solar system was HUGE! but, as propulsion systems advanced, man began to build colonies in space, in giant stations. Man made objects the size of entire towns. People could traverse the solar system in a matter of hours. People could get up out of bed at 7am, and from earth, go on a day trip to Neptune, take some holiday snaps, and be back on earth in time for a light lunch. The solar system wasn't so big after all.

THEN came hyperspace travel. Neighboring systems were seconds away. Now, you could visit Cirius and be back in an afternoon. Mankind had conquered interstellar travel, our sector wasn't so big after all.

THEN with the dawn of quantum slipstream drives, we found ourselves being able to traverse distances our ancestors would have thought only possible by the gods. Technology had arrived that got us to the other side of the galaxy in the time it took to have a bath... The galaxy wasn't so big after all.

Explorers turned their gaze outwards. Andromeda was in sight. The birth of the singularity drive had arrived. Test probes have proven singularity drive propulsion to be safe, and a monkey has made a round trip to the outer arms of Andromeda in 2 days. Scientists are confident that mankind will have its first outposts there in 18 months.


Lets stop hamstringing ED with silly limitations. Technology progressing means freedom beyond the limitation of arbitrary lore.

The Galaxy IS big, but, so once was our villages.

The deal here is that we have no larger sector of the universe at our disposal, we only have the Milky Way, that's it.

 

[Vorxian]

The deal here is that we have no larger sector of the universe at our disposal, we only have the Milky Way, that's it.

Agree, but even if mankind has been limited to earth, we'd be travelling from London to New York in pods that virtually have no travel time. London to Wellington (NZ), would be as instant. Doesn't mean that humans would never have 'aeroplanes' for pleasure and recreational use. For aviation enthusiasts, i would guarantee that some would still have ancient super sonic 'car planes' for nostalgia. Some even 3d printing their own piston engine planes for the ultimate thrill.

 

[rp198419]

Travel is something people have to do to manipulate the game and faster travel increases the speed, magnitude, and reach of their influence. It has consequences, even for those who don't utilize those aspects that trivialize travel themselves.

Forgive my possible misunderstanding but an AP does not result in 'faster travel'. It simply means you don't have to keep hitting that damn J key for 3 hours at a time. If you want to of course, there is nothing to stop you from doing exactly the same task manually.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Technology progressing means freedom beyond the limitation of arbitrary lore.

Yes, but gameplay requires that travel is to be slow enough that there's a game left to play while going between A and B.

"The invention in late 3304 of the subspace teleporter, allowing instant transportation of mass between any two points, made spaceflight obsolete. With trade carried out by simply beaming the cargo between logistics bays in the relevant factories, the scourge of piracy vanished as an economic threat - and with it the need to spend millions of credits on police and bounty hunters to suppress them. Automated probes were rapidly transported to the 400 billion systems of the galaxy, limited only by their production rate, producing a full map by early 3305. The Elite Federation of Pilots resisted the inevitable for a while, before being disbanded, bankrupt, in May 3305 - taking many famous manufacturers with it. Saud-Kruger was the only survivor, hastily converting its Dolphin design into a luxury teleport-compatible tourism pod."
-- from the Elite V introduction

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Agree, but even if mankind has been limited to earth, we'd be travelling from London to New York in pods that virtually have no travel time. London to Wellington (NZ), would be as instant. Doesn't mean that humans would never have 'aeroplanes' for pleasure and recreational use. For aviation enthusiasts, i would guarantee that some would still have ancient super sonic 'car planes' for nostalgia. Some even 3d printing their own piston engine planes for the ultimate thrill.

Well, we already have our technology evolution via new modules and tools to improve jump range (engineers, neutron stars, guardian FSD booster) so there you go.