Opinions on combat logging

Alright i just want to know your guys opinions on combat logging. The "legal" way which is to hit esc and wait 15 seconds to log out, the other way which is task manager it, and just the whole combat logging in general. Opinions please. REMAIN CIVIL
 
ahh libertarian i see! lol jk, i can respect that.

Hah!! Nice, have some rep.

Honestly would say Im more in line with the person above you as far as what is and isnt breaking the rules.

But personally I cant really get to emotional about either happening. Rage quitting has been around so long I'm just used to it by this point.
 
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Stand and fight.

Take the rebuy if that’s the way it falls.

Even a menu log is a shame job.

I’m embarrassed for anyone that does it, and it brings down the rep of those seen doing it.
And their teams.

So don’t do it.

I mean this with utmost seriousness.
Groups can come undone by a combat logger.

Yeah, I’m looking at you.
 
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It's quicker still not to ;)

What do you think about Combat Logging? Is it okay? Should it be punishable by death? Somewhere in between?

My personal opinion is similar to the ones above. If frontier provides a way for it to happen without the player getting in trouble, then if that player uses that method, then its alright by my book. Especially against murder hobos.
 
then if that player uses that method, then its alright by my book. Especially against murder hobos.

Well, isn't it better to not encounter murderhobos in the first place, than just anger them by "aggravating activities" and risking investigation and possible restrictions on your account by getting them all riled up and demanding "emergent content" so much that they moan about you?

There are certainly ways to give murderhobos a bad day, and if you are feeling brave and in a non-extradition country a really bad day, but is the hassle worth it over simply choosing to play where murderhobos don't exist?
 
Well, isn't it better to not encounter murderhobos in the first place, than just anger them by "aggravating activities" and risking investigation and possible restrictions on your account by getting them all riled up and demanding "emergent content" so much that they moan about you?

There are certainly ways to give murderhobos a bad day, and if you are feeling brave and in a non-extradition country a really bad day, but is the hassle worth it over simply choosing to play where murderhobos don't exist?

Wouldnt it be better not to have murderhobos in the first place rather than terrify people out of open? I would rather have more people in open than have murder hobos in open to be honest with you.
 
Wouldnt it be better not to have murderhobos in the first place rather than terrify people out of open? I would rather have more people in open than have murder hobos in open to be honest with you.

They bought the game just like you or I did - and we don't pay for their playtime so we can't dictate what they do in-game.

You can either be victim to them, which they love - moan about them, which they absolutely love, completely ignore them, which they cannot stand, or have them simply not exist for you in-game, which they actively moan about.

Other possibilities exist - which can make them whine even harder - but there's no need to go there.
 
My opinion, if the player attacking you is doing it just to ruin your fun, i think its okay to ruin their fun by logging. If you started the fight, or they have a valid reason such as a bounty or pp status then you shouldnt log out.
 
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Alright i just want to know your guys opinions on combat logging. The "legal" way which is to hit esc and wait 15 seconds to log out, the other way which is task manager it, and just the whole combat logging in general. Opinions please. REMAIN CIVIL

- combat log is a loophole which frontier cannot (in practical means) address with their aficionado p2p thingy
- 15 secs logout timer is the lamebutt pr "legit" non-solution they came up with to wave hands

you take it from there. what's your opinion?
 
The game is so soft-core with re-buys being so low that I do not see that it matters if someone logs or not.
If the game was more Hard-core and or Dead is Dead, then yes a better solution would be needed.
 
Alright i just want to know your guys opinions on combat logging. The "legal" way which is to hit esc and wait 15 seconds to log out, the other way which is task manager it, and just the whole combat logging in general. Opinions please. REMAIN CIVIL

Well. Usually I always said that Combat Logging should be Monitored and Forgiven a few Times. But Clearly be Punished if a Player does it all the time.
Reason being that I myself had the case a few Times against NPCs that I needed to get up from my PC but was currently in a Fight that I could not just Ignore without being Killed. But also had no way to really get out of it fast enough to get whatever needed attention.
Thus I Combat logged on them.
Meanwhile of course if someone constantly just Combat Logs if he is about to Die in a Fight then this should indeed Result in Consequences.


I also Think that the Punishment for this behavior should be Ingame to set an Example.
For example as a First Warning after Combat Logging 3 or more times within 1 Week there could be a Reputation Loss with the Factions your Friendly or better With and a Loss of Pilot Federation Ranks. Together with a Message that Cowardice in Front of the Enemy will not be Tolerated and that Pilots like that dont deserve to be Ranked High in the Pilots Federation.
Then as Second Warning Shot after Combat Logging 5 or more times within 1 Week when you try to Cash in the Bounties you earned before you Combat Logged you could be Told that your getting a Paycut of 50% because you were observed to have on purpose allowed Enemys to Flee.
As Third and Final Warning Shot after Logging 10 or more times within 1 Week the game could Send an Assassin after you. Which will Interdict you with you a Squad of 2 or 3 Ships and Continue Hunting you for about 2 Ingame Hours or until you Killed em. Giving you a Message that others have Noticed your Incredible Skills to just Dissappear into Thin Air in the Middle of a Fight and due to the Danger this poses have Hired an Assassin Squad to Hunt you down.
Pls note after that. A New Squad will be Send after each new Instance of Combat Logging.

If a Player Despite all that Continues Combat Log and thus Combat Logged 15 Times within 1 Week.
He will get a Clear Warning Message of the System that. If he Continues this Behavior. HE Will be Banned from the Game for 1 Day then when he does it again 3 Days then 10 Days etc etc.




However.
Lately some RPK/Griefer went ahead and made me consider if I should change my Mind on that.
His Argument for Griefing and Sealclubbing Enemies that stand no Chance in a Fight and his Demand to remove Solo and Private Group Modes.
Was very Simple.
An Player who Joins the Game should be aware that PvP is part of the Game. And the Mechanics clearly allow Ganking and Sealclubbing.
So even if your Killing a Sidewinder with a Ganking Squad of 3 Anacondas this is clearly part of the Game Design and the Game should be Played like this.

And Sorry.
But if we go by the Logic that Griefing and RPKing as well as Ganking and Sealclubbing is the Intended and Correct Behavior in the Game. Just because the current Game Design is not Preventing or Punishing it.
Then clearly Combat Logging is also Part of this Game Design and thus is Absolutely Acceptable and Correct.

And well.
What should I say.
But in this Instance.
If a Newer Player Joins Open Play. He Flies his Python around which he just got and which is like D Rated for most Part.
Then Yes. If that Guy is Interdicted by some Veteran in a Conda or even a Ganking Squad in Vultures etc etc etc.
Then Hell Yes he should Combat Log right away. And anyone seriously claiming that he is the one who Acted Dishonorable should put his got damn mouth on the other End of his Body where it belongs.


Greetz Sun
 
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