I am sorry to hear that, but Mr. Hasselhoff is my Liaison Officier.
He said, for the future of the game, there is a special thing he is looking for.
[video=youtube;CdKVX45wYeQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKVX45wYeQ[/video]
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I am sorry to hear that, but Mr. Hasselhoff is my Liaison Officier.
He said, for the future of the game, there is a special thing he is looking for.
[video=youtube;CdKVX45wYeQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKVX45wYeQ[/video]
And a good man for young programmers too, as he was influential in the creation of the Raspberry Pi and continues in its development. Fantastic devices.
Elite in VR is spectacular too.
David's quite the successful and influential visionary
At least the chart the OP provided tells otherwise though I've seen other charts that don't agree so I'm unsure.
My point is rather clear in my quote, we don't need to have information on everybody to conclude tendencies.
Interesting reading so far. So there is now a cult here, how umm startling. And just what did someone do to earn the accolade of cult status. Oh that's right, having the audacity of having a different opinion to someone else. Wow, how deep and meaningful and so very very wrong.
Going by the comments being tossed around here, if Poster A doesn't agree with Poster B, then one of them is a member of the newly named White Knight Cult. But I dare say that everyone - well except a couple of the doomslayers who I secretly think have never played the game - can be called a member of this cult.
Yes, people defend this game, as is their right. That very same right that allows others to trash it, make up false accusations, make up false facts, but it seems that only the latter are permitted to have an opinion. I think it is pretty evident who has the shallower skin here!
Going by the comments being tossed around here, if Poster A doesn't agree with Poster B, then one of them is a member of the newly named White Knight Cult. But I dare say that everyone - well except a couple of the doomslayers who I secretly think have never played the game - can be called a member of this cult.
Yes, people defend this game, as is their right. That very same right that allows others to trash it, make up false accusations, make up false facts, but it seems that only the latter are permitted to have an opinion. I think it is pretty evident who has the shallower skin here!
Steam statistics are an important indicator on how a game is preforming and should be taken seriously.
Total current Steam player count is between 10 to 15 million, the top 4 games can have 1 million to 1/2 million on line at any given time,
the top 30 games can have about 70,000 to 25,000 players on line. Out of the top 100 games Elite Dangerous falls out near the bottom with 3,000 to 7,000 typically on line,
now I don’t think ED is dying but I think it could and should do a lot better.
I have heard that Elite Dangerous is a niche game but isn’t most games a niche game even it is popular.
It’s clear that Frontier is trying hard to improve ED and bring more players in.
Elite Dangerous is a Beautiful game with a loyal user base, Frontier just need to figure out how to keep more players playing and engaged.
Total current Steam player count is between 10 to 15 million, the top 4 games can have 1 million to 1/2 million on line at any given time,
the top 30 games can have about 70,000 to 25,000 players on line. Out of the top 100 games Elite Dangerous falls out near the bottom with 3,000 to 7,000 typically on line,
now I don’t think ED is dying but I think it could and should do a lot better.
I have heard that Elite Dangerous is a niche game but isn’t most games a niche game even it is popular.
It’s clear that Frontier is trying hard to improve ED and bring more players in.
Elite Dangerous is a Beautiful game with a loyal user base, Frontier just need to figure out how to keep more players playing and engaged.
Agreed. We can use SteamCharts data to show the tendency that Steam CMDRs' average concurrency is increasing year-on-year.
No, not only steam CMDRs.
because thargoids got released, that everyone waited for, for many years, while fdev was spoonfeeding us about them, then we finally got them, found out they were boring, and numbers went down once more
Have not been on here in a while... messed around with the new Krait when it came out... got bored... so is it over yet?... time to release it so it can be modded?.. lol.
Still love the game... played the original as a teenager... I think I just burnt myself out on it... maybe I'll come back to it this winter, delete one of my saves, and start over as a pirate... something hard to make money at.
Still love the game... played the original as a teenager... I think I just burnt myself out on it... maybe I'll come back to it this winter, delete one of my saves, and start over as a pirate... something hard to make money at.
There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
Received wisdom like that wasn't said by someone relying on servers that will eventually shut down.
I play as often as I can because I know that one day I will no longer be able to, and I'll wish I'd played more when I had the chance.
I can't tell if you're trolling or unable to use a calendar.
Thargoid hyperdictions first occured Jan 2017, a full year before the best-ever Steam CMDR average concurrency month (Jan 2018).
More encounter types happened throughout the year, and in Sep 2017 we could directly interact with Thargoid Interceptors (combat, scanning, gift cargo) - four months before the aforementioned best-ever month.
The chart in OP is basically made up.
First, the chart shows peak numbers rather than average numbers, which makes it absolutely useless to see trends. All that it can tell us is when a major update was released.
Second, if you look at the chart you'll see that the first half consists of fewer data points than the second half, which again makes it absolutely useless. You can easily see this by taking notice of the flat curve in the first half and the spiked curve in the second half. It doesn't even reflect the reality.
Third, I am getting bored repeating myself again and again.
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Its all relative. If a game is exclusive Steam, then the Steam stats are an excellent indicator. If a game is multi-platform, but PC exclusive then the importance of the charts is somewhat diminished - well diminished by themselves. They can show trends, which can then be measured to sing telemetary, or platform apis on the other platforms. Now if a game is not even Steam exclusive on PC, the trends may show you a trend in the wder PC community, the trends may be only withi the Steam community.
Last set of data I saw, Steam was somewhere in the 25-30% of total sales (800,000 from 2.5K) - but that was some time ago. Steam growth is low, with most growth from other platforms in the last 2 years, so as a percentage Steam has reduced. Stll a healthy enough percentage to be statistically meaningful, the problem is sample bias. Taking from all one community, where there are many is not statistically as accurate as a cross section across all the platforms.
So my take is the Steam stats can show some trends, but evidence of a general trend requires stats from other platforms.
ED may well be dying, or it might be dying on steam. The latter might, but not necessarily mean the former.
As I am not Steam's biggest fan, the latter does not bother me, the former does.
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Simon
Steam chart threads never fail to upset the white-knights.. "It's not true!" "They lie!" "They're not accurate at showing trends because reasons" [haha]
I've found the best indicator of how popular the game is currently is how many of my friends list are logged in when I play on average week to week... at the moment it's about 5-10 out of approx 100. Make of that what you will..
I've found the best indicator of how popular the game is currently is how many of my friends list are logged in when I play on average week to week... at the moment it's about 5-10 out of approx 100. Make of that what you will..
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The System traffic reports are handy too.
Given Elite is an mmo its always going to have highs and lows in player retention.
As soon as a new content is released the player count will peak then fall again.
[video=youtube;GibiNy4d4gc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc[/video]
As soon as a new content is released the player count will peak then fall again.
[video=youtube;GibiNy4d4gc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc[/video]
I do very much care about the truth, and as a fan of the franchise I'd love to think that your claim is true, but I've never seen any documents supporting your position that Elite is Frontier's most profitable franchise. And personally, as a Frontier shareholder who gets their financial statements, I'm concerned because none of the statements I've ever gotten had such a breakdown to that level of detail.
I just wanted to see this evidence you claim is out there, that's all. But if you "find looking for any sources a waste of time" then may I suggest you refrain from making statements like that from now on? You always say that Steam charts don't mean anything, yet at least the people using them to make points have a degree of evidence to support their stances, even if said evidence is only a snapshot and not the entire picture. You've shown nothing so far.
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