I think setting a minimum standard for qualification is fair enough, going to need to ensure that everyone gets to vote just once (I.E. no duplicate accounts to jack up your own score)
I don't know how you plan to set it up but i would imagine the vote/chapters not being public and restricted to contributors/pledge's only.
The group nature of the project is going to need a lot of proof readers, i would also consider investing in a group membership/usage of a site like grammarly.com or autocrit so that authors can polish out the errors before submission as I know my punctuation sucks.
I've got a years sub to autocrit already, trying to see if i can scrape the cash for grammarly as well but that's $60 a quarter so a bit much for me to afford right now.
btw, Laura is also recruiting writers as well, I just got asked
All votes/chapters will be open to all. We will try our best to make it fair to everyone, but it's likely we would experience some problems in Feb and March, but we will try our best to get tech up to speed to debug these.
I personally wont worry much about being perfect... espeically, if you just publish it online in the 1st stage. Once you got a bit far in your story, lots of people really like it, than obviously, you could invest in it and push it a bit further.
Also, I quick note about me too. Yes, I am C.L。Unfortunately/Luckily.. I have a full time job during the day, and a full time job in the evening for Elite Chronicles, so I haven't got much time to socialise with other fans. My apology. If I do, then my partner might go beyong grumpy.lol
Fortunately, I have got Ryatta and other people to help out, but the best way to reach me quickly is always by email (elitechronicles@gmail.com), if you have anything questions for me.
Fortunately, I have got Ryatta and other people to help out, but the best way to reach me quickly is always by email (elitechronicles@gmail.com), if you have anything questions for me.
one question i have is i don't see how us each writing 3000 words or more a day is going to contribute to the stated aims of the project, are we writing one book between us or one each? it seems like a lot of effort to go to for a crowd sourced book that at most is going to be made up of 10% from each of us.
just during this period 3k words a day would result in us each writing a 100k word novel, can someone clarify as that looks to be excessive to me and overly time consuming.
at that level of output there wont be time for any polishing or rewrites so we will be posting first draft stuff only.
we would have very little time for research to make sure our story stays within the established boundaries either.
it's all very well saying it can be sorted out afterwards, but if someones story relies on a false premise about the technology the whole carefully built structure could collapse like a house of cards in a hurricane.
if that happened they would end up with 100k words that were junk.
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Hello, my first post here. I'm a long-time member of the Elite community online, back when it was a bunch of random Elite Web websites loosely held together by the #alt.fan.elite newsgroups and IRC channel, and of course by the wonderful and now extinct EBBS at alioth.net, current home of the Elite Wiki.
Over the years I've written a lot of Elite fanfic, mostly based around the worlds of classic Elite and ArcElite, rather than the later FE2, FFE, and Oolite variants. I was also involved with Christian Pinder's reverse engineered versions (Elite: The New Kind and Elite: Darkness Falls) and my short novella also entitled Darkness Falls was intended to be the official novella for that game, but due to various legal strife the whole project died a horrid death.
That's my background in Elite. My point being, there are a lot of writers of Elite universe fiction out there and a lot of damn good stories. I know that Laura is trying to contact them (for those whose contact information is still up-to-date, a decade or more after the original fiction was written) and I was caught in one of those emails, which is how I found this thread in the first place. In principle, I have no problem with my stories being used in this sort of compilation so long as they are properly attributed and nobody is making undue profit from my work, so I'd like to find out more details about those aspects of this project before saying yes. My principal works - those that I'm not too embarrassed about being seen in public - are Vendetta (~10,000 words), based around the ArcElite mission regarding Zurid Pino (this and this), and the aforementioned Darkness Falls (~15,000 words).
So: any more detail for us about this project and how it is being legally arranged (with regard to ownership, copyright, profit, and so on)? I saw something on the EC website about it being non-profit, but there are not many details about the venture and how it will be arranged. While I'm happy to get my stuff out to a larger audience - after all, I wrote it to be read - I'm always suspicious when something looks to good to be true. Call me a sceptic
Over the years I've written a lot of Elite fanfic, mostly based around the worlds of classic Elite and ArcElite, rather than the later FE2, FFE, and Oolite variants. I was also involved with Christian Pinder's reverse engineered versions (Elite: The New Kind and Elite: Darkness Falls) and my short novella also entitled Darkness Falls was intended to be the official novella for that game, but due to various legal strife the whole project died a horrid death.
That's my background in Elite. My point being, there are a lot of writers of Elite universe fiction out there and a lot of damn good stories. I know that Laura is trying to contact them (for those whose contact information is still up-to-date, a decade or more after the original fiction was written) and I was caught in one of those emails, which is how I found this thread in the first place. In principle, I have no problem with my stories being used in this sort of compilation so long as they are properly attributed and nobody is making undue profit from my work, so I'd like to find out more details about those aspects of this project before saying yes. My principal works - those that I'm not too embarrassed about being seen in public - are Vendetta (~10,000 words), based around the ArcElite mission regarding Zurid Pino (this and this), and the aforementioned Darkness Falls (~15,000 words).
So: any more detail for us about this project and how it is being legally arranged (with regard to ownership, copyright, profit, and so on)? I saw something on the EC website about it being non-profit, but there are not many details about the venture and how it will be arranged. While I'm happy to get my stuff out to a larger audience - after all, I wrote it to be read - I'm always suspicious when something looks to good to be true. Call me a sceptic
Hello. I got contacted by the authors of this project, did some correspondence and just want to clear something up.
The EC project is centered around a single book, right? How much creative space is there *outside* of this book?
Also, an idea:
Create a part of the site (Wiki-like) where people can submit their stories - or ideas - that they are not fully satisfied with or that are not completely finished or proof-read or whatever. Let other people edit it, add to it, comment on it, make notes. See what comes out of it.
Yes, this can be regarded as an experiment. Make it customisable, have the original author be the admin of that particular page so that he can give permissions and cut off people who he feels are not contributing or vandalising.
Basically, it's a one-time "time investment", "fire-and-forget", create it and let it exist on its own. See what happens.
You never know what may come out of a chaotic environment.
The EC project is centered around a single book, right? How much creative space is there *outside* of this book?
Also, an idea:
Create a part of the site (Wiki-like) where people can submit their stories - or ideas - that they are not fully satisfied with or that are not completely finished or proof-read or whatever. Let other people edit it, add to it, comment on it, make notes. See what comes out of it.
Yes, this can be regarded as an experiment. Make it customisable, have the original author be the admin of that particular page so that he can give permissions and cut off people who he feels are not contributing or vandalising.
Basically, it's a one-time "time investment", "fire-and-forget", create it and let it exist on its own. See what happens.
You never know what may come out of a chaotic environment.
With regards to the legal aspects of posting work on the website, I mentioned in the emails that there will be no profit made from work posted by you, the authors. The only part of the website that will result in making any profit is the ultimate Elite Chronicles book, which will be brought together from brand new writing and ideas submitted by any authors (previously published or not) who have signed up for writing for the Elite Chronicles book. The emails I have been sending out to previous Elite fiction authors have been aimed at getting some Elite writing on the website to inspire people to join the Elite Chronicles venture. All copyright and ownership will of course be attributed; I asked in the emails for the specific wording for each of your personal attributions and it will appear as you require on the website with your work.
The Elite Chronicles project is indeed centred around a single book; however, the website will be ultimately be open to all authors who want to post whatever they want to. Authors will be able to submit work to be considered to be included in the EC book; they can submit Elite fiction that they do not want to be included in the EC book; and ultimately we will be inviting authors to post fiction works from any genre, so romance, horror, general fantasy, etc. and set in any world not limited to the Elite world. In other words, unless you categorically state that you are submitting ideas for the crowd-written EC book (which must be based in the Elite universe), you can write and post whatever you want.
Thanks for clearing that up, Laura. I've responded to your email and happy to contribute on that basis.
Cheers,
Drew.
One more question. Sorry if I'm inquiring about somthing that seems obvious, I just want to be sure I got it right.
"The Book" is a joint-effort single NOVEL whose outline will be determined by the rules described (simplified: readers votes for the main character etc.), correct? There will be no stories independent from the main plot published in "The Book"?
"The Book" is a joint-effort single NOVEL whose outline will be determined by the rules described (simplified: readers votes for the main character etc.), correct? There will be no stories independent from the main plot published in "The Book"?
That is correct.
Lost, astray and all alone
This is approx 300 words of my first draft of my story:
Lost, astray and all alone.
Tinlicker: A person who only drinks out of cans.
Deafgranate: Tin-can based grenade with short range sound and radio wave silence, made infamous by the McHannan Guerrilla.
It can be difficult to define what total darkness really is. It is not the time when you are four years old and get caught by the elders in the act of stealing toys from you brother, and as gruelling you both have to watch the little toys you don’t posses disintegrate in a simple open-fire device.
It is not the time when you where 16 and your parents gets murdered in front of your very eyes. Your elder brother being partly responsible flees the area and your life.
It is not the time your brother returns two years later, to ”rescue” you into a life consuming you in grey days of piracy and shady deals.
It might be the time when a long line of assignments, which never actually brought you the kind of wealth you where dreaming of, but instead is kept in a fairly steady line of poverty, goes so totally wrong that your little excuse of a ship is torn to pieces, and you are falling down into the atmosphere of a desolate and hostile planet. The ship is barely holding up, all systems, including life support is about to fail. If you survive the landing, there is nowhere to go; you are all alone, alone in the vast and harsh Universe.
But then again, the very nature of total in total darkness might mean it is a paradox and it cannot really exist on its own.
Pain, then light.
She is still alive; the ship still holds together, but the sounds, the hammering alarm of every system of the ship, failed or about to fail. What about life support?
This is approx 300 words of my first draft of my story:
Lost, astray and all alone.
Tinlicker: A person who only drinks out of cans.
Deafgranate: Tin-can based grenade with short range sound and radio wave silence, made infamous by the McHannan Guerrilla.
It can be difficult to define what total darkness really is. It is not the time when you are four years old and get caught by the elders in the act of stealing toys from you brother, and as gruelling you both have to watch the little toys you don’t posses disintegrate in a simple open-fire device.
It is not the time when you where 16 and your parents gets murdered in front of your very eyes. Your elder brother being partly responsible flees the area and your life.
It is not the time your brother returns two years later, to ”rescue” you into a life consuming you in grey days of piracy and shady deals.
It might be the time when a long line of assignments, which never actually brought you the kind of wealth you where dreaming of, but instead is kept in a fairly steady line of poverty, goes so totally wrong that your little excuse of a ship is torn to pieces, and you are falling down into the atmosphere of a desolate and hostile planet. The ship is barely holding up, all systems, including life support is about to fail. If you survive the landing, there is nowhere to go; you are all alone, alone in the vast and harsh Universe.
But then again, the very nature of total in total darkness might mean it is a paradox and it cannot really exist on its own.
Pain, then light.
She is still alive; the ship still holds together, but the sounds, the hammering alarm of every system of the ship, failed or about to fail. What about life support?
Hi, Thx a lot for the first 300 words. This will be uploaded to our site and launched with the site...We will register an account for you. However, please do tell us how you want to be referred to (author name, book(story) title)). You can either leave it in the thread or email us at elitechronicles@gmail.com
@Chen, just refer to me with my real information: Chand Svare Ghei, the title and webpage chasvag.com if that is ok.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Sure. No problem.
where to send
Hi. Where should I send my story once its finished?
Hi. Where should I send my story once its finished?
