Not IF but WHY discussion around modes in the BGS

[Deleted member 110222]

My opinion.

I couldn't care less if BGS were OO. (Oh look, I wrote that sentence correctly)

All I think should be protected for Solo is the player's ability to earn credits and engineering.

I'm correct in thinking reputation only affects the player's individual standing with a faction, and nothing to do with the standing of the faction itself?

Anyway, what I'm saying is that I'd have no problem with OO BGS, as long as personal progressions are unchanged. (Credits, engineering, tech brokers, etc.)

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

I am advocating for a different form of skill. I am advocating for the game not to be reduced to an FPS. You have access to all of the tools necessary to grow and defend a PAF, yet you only seem to appreciate one method of play. Simply asserting a preference, because it isn't a 'fairness' issue, is not enough to strip player agency from those who prefer not to PvP.

Been there done that.

The game has so many aspects its missing, Engagements and player groups working together because of this.

This problem at this point is actually getting in the way of the things David Braben wanted. Because everyone is doing their own thing away from each other. Not using the Engineering or Modules in the game that the developers created for that interaction.

Sooner or later. They will make these things work. Because right now they arent.

And thats a fact jack. Not an opinion.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Sooner or later. They will make these things work. Because right now they arent.

And thats a fact jack. Not an opinion.

Depends on what kind of game they want Elite to be. If they want it to be Evelite then you may be right. If they don't then you're probably wrong.

Time will tell. It usually does.

 

[Lucius-Darcia]

Yes... and while it is tempting to eg remove the transactional nature of bounty hunting - that in turn is well balanced with the rest of the BGS. Simply requiring "murder bonds" to handed in somewhere as a transaction, and be lost if the murder was taken down by a player or authorities, would solve a lot of the balance issues.

Or maybe just limiting to 1-3 murder transaction per player per system per daily bgs tick
Bounty would still raise but no further transactions into the bgs if someone keeps killing

 

[Robert Maynard]

Or maybe just limiting to 1-3 murder transaction per player per system per daily bgs tick
Bounty would still raise but no further transactions into the bgs if someone keeps killing

That'd presumably stop the AFK turret-boats in their tracks....

 

[WhoCares]

Im aware of how the game is. I am asking to make changes to the game so the attacker has to face consequences for their actions based on skill. They very well may beat me. And thats fine.
....

Is it really about skill, or would it not just boil down to numbers, and maybe massing them in the right timezone, should one of the belligerents be mostly from one region.
Numbers win, and the rogue lone wolf can't play BGS anymore, if a PMF has an interest in is systems.

 

[Robert Maynard]

This problem at this point is actually getting in the way of the things David Braben wanted.

We do know that he's not keen on player groups acting "like Mafiosi": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzizYUEF9c/t=19m40s

While Squadrons are coming in Q4, I doubt that they'll follow the complete guild trope that some might hope for.

 

[Frank Craft]

Blowing up players is such a poor approach to affect the BGS. There are much more productive ways to do this.

 

[Whitehair]

I am asking to make changes to the game so the attacker has to face consequences for their actions based on skill. They very well may beat me. And thats fine.

Which skillset exactly are you refering to?

One in which weapon use is paramount, or one in which application of knowledge is paramount?

Because it looks like you want the first and consistently lose at the second.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Which skillset exactly are you refering to?

One in which weapon use is paramount, or one in which application of knowledge is paramount?

Because it looks like you want the first and consistently lose at the second.

Both.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Both.

One is optional, the other is not.

 

[Whitehair]

Both.

Sorry. You can't have both.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

I'd like to leave the gentle reminder, Mobius stopped their BGS for a while because they couldnt defend either. But they also wouldnt go into open to see their attackers even though they had the chance....

Again, you guys can keep making excuses about all this stuff. Thats fine.

But mark my words. No game continues like this when its one sided and the player groups dont have the chance to defend themselves against their attackers.

If they are going to continue to push this type of play. It will be balanced around. Thats just how that stuff works.

Sorry. You can't have both.

Not at the moment. But I will.

One is optional, the other is not.

I know, were gonna change that.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Not at the moment. But I will.

Here we go with the grandiose predictions again...

 

[Robert Maynard]

I'd like to leave the gentle reminder, Mobius stopped their BGS for a while because they couldnt defend either.

Every member of the Private Groups, regardless of which Faction they support?

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Here we go with the grandiose predictions again...

I've never been wrong

And even with PP not coming in Q4 im still not wrong because this community doesnt understand the difference between priority and delay.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Robert Maynard]

I've never been wrong

Which prediction has been fulfilled?

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Every member of the Private Groups, regardless of which Faction they support?

OOM Maynard you know this. The player group. I told you once I wont tell you again. Stop with the technicalities and games.

 

[Mohrgan]

I've never been wrong

And even with PP not coming in Q4 im still not wrong because this community doesnt understand the difference between priority and delay.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Escape Hatch located.

 

[Robert Maynard]

OOM Maynard you know this. The player group. I told you once I wont tell you again. Stop with the technicalities and games.

Is every member of those Private Groups a supporter of OOM?

I got the impression that there was a lot of hilarity regarding the proclamation that "Mobius" had been beaten at BGS.