Powerplay Gotta be blunt.

[Guest 161958]

I tried to defend a power which is getting mass attacked on solo.

I went to the attacked power controlled system in open and nobody was there. Still, undermining was going up at a crazy rate.

Gotta be blunt here: all open only powerplay detractors are truly weak individuals.

 

[True Phoenix]

I hear you Bro .. repped.

 

[Ethaidan]

Solo, or different platform?

I've been killing a lot of enemy PP ships this week, in open, completely unopposed... on PS4.

 

[Arry]

Exactly the same could be happening in the opposite direction, in solo or group; so your point is not valid.

How do you 'know for a fact' that this 'mass attack' IS happening in Solo play? You don't; you just assume and then try to make it a part of your argument; for attempting to force all players to play 'your way'.

Just because you cannot interact with those opposing players. Does not mean that they are not playing in Open.

 

[Guest 161958]

Exactly the same could be happening in the opposite direction, in solo or group; so your point is not valid.

How do you 'know for a fact' that this 'mass attack' IS happening in Solo play? You don't; you just assume and then try to make it a part of your argument; for attempting to force all players to play 'your way'.

Just because you cannot interact with those opposing players. Does not mean that they are not playing in Open.

I do know because there are no players in open in that system while the undermining counter grows every minute in the powers screen. You could object that since I am on PC I cannot see console cmdrs. Weak argument from weak individual. You know better than me that many are transporting cargo to undermine in solo to avoid legit pvp. You cannot deny it. I am not forcing anyone to play my way so please just let Powerplay flourish and stop spewing lies. Not even one instancing in 1 hour means everybody is in solo.

 

[rootsrat]

I do know because there are no players in open in that system while the undermining counter grows every minute in the powers screen. You could object that since I am on PC I cannot see console cmdrs. Weak argument from weak individual. You know better than me that many are transporting cargo to undermine in solo to avoid legit pvp. You cannot deny it. I am not forcing anyone to play my way so please just let Powerplay flourish and stop spewing lies. Not even one instancing in 1 hour means everybody is in solo.

XBOX
PS4
Different Time Zone
Instancing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Guest 161958]

XBOX
PS4
Different Time Zone
Instancing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not enough to justify not seeing anybody. It is a farce this way and the Powerplay veterans are right to ask fdev to kill it at this point.

 

[Arry]

I do know because there are no players in open in that system while the undermining counter grows every minute in the powers screen. You could object that since I am on PC I cannot see console cmdrs. Weak argument from weak individual. You know better than me that many are transporting cargo to undermine in solo to avoid legit pvp. You cannot deny it. I am not forcing anyone to play my way so please just let Powerplay flourish and stop spewing lies.

I am not allowed to attack the poster, just the posts.

The above is an example, of how wrong you can be.

So how do you 'know' for a fact that 'there are no players in open in that system'? You don't, it is just convenient for you to say.

How is stating the facts; be a weak argument? There is no point is discussing the personal insults, you are making. Apart from of course: Attacking the individual, is easier than countering the point of view of the individual.

Everything you state IS happening against your Power; can be done in favour of your Power; in the other instances. What ever the mode, or platform.

 

[rootsrat]

Not enough to justify not seeing anybody. It is a farce this way and the Powerplay veterans are right to ask fdev to kill it at this point.

It could be 10 people in Solo and 150 on XBOX, 200 on PS4 and 50 in different time zones.

Sorry, but all you can do here is speculate. These are not facts.

 

[Old Duck]

It is a farce this way and the Powerplay veterans are right to ask fdev to kill it at this point.

I gotta be blunt - the fact that there are "veterans" for an unfinished, half-baked, ill-conceived game mechanic like PowerGRIND baffles me. Yes, FDev should kill Powerplay, cause it's a monster from Frankenstein's lab that should never have been let loose on the galaxy.

 

[Guest 161958]

I am not allowed to attack the poster, just the posts.

The above is an example, of how wrong you can be.

So how do you 'know' for a fact that 'there are no players in open in that system'? You don't, it is just convenient for you to say.

How is stating the facts; be a weak argument? There is no point is discussing the personal insults, you are making. Apart from of course: Attacking the individual, is easier than countering the point of view of the individual.

Everything you state IS happening against your Power; can be done in favour of your Power; in the other instances. What ever the mode, or platform.

It is not a personal attack: it is a fact. People who refuse open play powerplay flee from resistance. They are happy to win without resistance. Thus they are weak. Not strong enough to win with skill.

I already told you it is happening because I cannot do anything to stop these players to bring their cargo in the power controlled ports I chose to defend.

It could be 10 people in Solo and 150 on XBOX, 200 on PS4 and 50 in different time zones.

Sorry, but all you can do here is speculate. These are not facts.

Read my previous post, the fact I cannot stop other cmdrs from bringing their cargo is a fact.

 

[Arry]

Not enough to justify not seeing anybody. It is a farce this way and the Powerplay veterans are right to ask fdev to kill it at this point.

The idea that Power Play should only be played in Open; has lots of merits. Maybe it should have been done from the start. However: It wasen't and so now we have this debate.

Debate is fine and often required to move things forward, to a better place. However: Demands, rants and insults; just kill the discussion and spoils the point of view.

Understand this: If Power Play became an Open play exclusive. Those on the losing side, will still complain; still say that things are unfair. Werther it be because of instancing and type of platform, they would still have issue.

 

[Speedcuffs]

Solo, or different platform?

I've been killing a lot of enemy PP ships this week, in open, completely unopposed... on PS4.

If we don't both go buy PCs right now we are weak!

 

[Guest 161958]

The idea that Power Play should only be played in Open; has lots of merits. Maybe it should have been done from the start. However: It wasen't and so now we have this debate.

Debate is fine and often required to move things forward, to a better place. However: Demands, rants and insults; just kill the discussion and spoils the point of view.

Understand this: If Power Play became an Open play exclusive. Those on the losing side, will still complain; still say that things are unfair. Werther it be because of instancing and type of platform, they would still have issue.

Understand this: A player who loses and complains because he lacks skill has to learn lots of things in life. 'cause you lose or win with your skill and luck. Solo PP is only luck now so there's a lot of legitimate complains about it.

I know it feels like insults or rants, but it is not. I am merely stating inoppugnable observations.

 

[Old Duck]

If we don't both go buy PCs right now we are weak!

Our shadows are weak, that's for sure

 

[Arry]

It is not a personal attack: it is a fact. People who refuse open play powerplay flee from resistance. They are happy to win without resistance. Thus they are weak. Not strong enough to win with skill.

I already told you it is happening because I cannot do anything to stop these players to bring their cargo in the power controlled ports I chose to defend.



Read my previous post, the fact I cannot stop other cmdrs from bringing their cargo is a fact.

The fact is: You are speculating.

To get closer to achieving your own goals: You need multiple commanders across all of the Platforms. Otherwise, believing that you can stop all of the other players in open, delivering their cargo; is just a pipe dream, a delusion and that IS a fact.

 

[Guest 161958]

The fact is: You are speculating.

To get closer to achieving your own goals: You need multiple commanders across all of the Platforms. Otherwise, believing that you can stop all of the other players in open, delivering their cargo; is just a pipe dream, a delusion and that IS a fact.

I am not speculating. It is not the first time I try: different timezones, different systems.. I NEVER encountered an enemy cmdr in more than 10 play sessions. So my observations are based on a large sample of data which convinced me that many players are just afraid of confrontation. And want to win with sheer number instead of skill, like your words show.

 

[Arry]

Understand this: A player who loses and complains because he lacks skill has to learn lots of things in life. 'cause you lose or win with your skill and luck. Solo PP is only luck now so there's a lot of legitimate complains about it.

I know it feels like insults or rants, but it is not. I am merely stating inoppugnable observations.

inoppuganable?

The closet meaning I can think of, is to be unarguable. So you are saying that you are right and there is no argument against that, correct?

As I have stated. There are many good, intelligent and valid arguments for having Power Play as an Open play exclusive. There is basically only one argument against doing this. All modes are equal, according to the makers of the game and do change this, would break that contract that F.D. made with its players/customers.

 

[Guest 161958]

inoppuganable?

The closet meaning I can think of, is to be unarguable. So you are saying that you are right and there is no argument against that, correct?

As I have stated. There are many good, intelligent and valid arguments for having Power Play as an Open play exclusive. There is basically only one argument against doing this. All modes are equal, according to the makers of the game and do change this, would break that contract that F.D. made with its players/customers.

I am starting to question your ability to read and interpret my words.

Yes, it is inoppugnable that after all my play sessions I never encountered one enemy cmdr in open. As I stated, at different timezones and systems. Of course I do not possess a console so it is possible that many cmdrs are playing open there. But as a matter of fact I cannot stop them and I should be given the chance to do so.

 

[Arry]

I am not speculating. It is not the first time I try: different timezones, different systems.. I NEVER encountered an enemy cmdr in more than 10 play sessions. So my observations are based on a large sample of data which convinced me that many players are just afraid of confrontation. And want to win with sheer number instead of skill, like your words show.

You cannot be everywhere at once. To be able to do so would mean that you are omnipresent; which makes you are god.