I doubt they will do that as no one will use it. It would have to provide more options to you otherwise it becomes a pointless feature.
I doubt they will do that as no one will use it. It would have to provide more options to you otherwise it becomes a pointless feature.
Lets not be dismissive of anything just because CR struggles with it, or we might well just stop with game development in general.
I would like to point out that in both cases features of space legs were very lackluster. No way they could work way they were released.
Lets not be dismissive of anything just because CR struggles with it, or we might well just stop with game development in general.
And let's not assume that just because CR isn't working on it it will be amazing by default
I agree. Always wanted atmospheres more than legs for my elite space sim.
But ... but ... I come back to something mentioned before on these forums. Local space legs, in ship, and especially in station, EVEN without the indepth gameplay I'm sure FDev would want to include as a reason for doing it ... would make a huge difference to the game. Because you would be able to see the scale of the game in a way we can't now, unless we are using VR. So I would vote for 'local' space legs ... if it were a democracy, and my vote counted, which it isn't, and it doesn't, and shouldn't
I want all those things too, but the hard part isn’t doing those things. It’s making doing those things interesting. If my walking into a bar to get a mission isn’t at least as intersting as getting a mission from the station’s bulletin board, players aren’t likely to do it... even if Frontier tries to bribe them.
Which is why if Frontier is to do Elite Feet, I want them to do it right. Not just ambulation for the sake of ambulation, but one with purpose.
It should be more interesting and unique and that's it. it is doable, but it is way more work than avatar walking mechanic - which itself can be quite a challenge considering hard sci-fi roots of ED.
Err, last I played nms had near-constant gravity, the inability to move in your ship, no magboots or zero G etc. And NMS basically is all about walking around. NMS accomplished none of the challenges, basic walking isnt the issue.
I wonder if you honestly dont understand it or were just looking for some cheap trolling material...
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There are lots of games with people on foot. Also on foot and in vehicles. It doesn't seem like something that hard to do. I'm not complaining but I don't really think there's much excuse for being incapable of having it implemented after this length of time (incl interesting gameplay). Tbh, they've struggled to produce much in the way of interesting gameplay with what's there now so maybe there's another reason for the very slow development pace? Dunno. I just think if they had wanted to do it, it would have been very achievable.
I take your point. But ED doesn't even have basic walking. Until they have some version of space legs they're behind NMS in that regard.
I would want a bit more depth to space legs then what we have in NMS. Its not a good example.
So true. ED would be playable, while SC would be a chore. There's a reason No Man's Sky got portals to quickly move around.
Legs only go that far (pun intended), but some game play become tedious if you don't have shortcuts.
The problem is that we already have a gameworld (including a wide range of gravity environment, not 'per level/map' but constantly calculated and smoothly changing when near bodies. And not only that, people want to walk inside their ships. What many consider 'a first version' of spacelegs, walking just in your own ship, immediately demands a number of technical hurdles to be overcome that NMS simply sidestepped. 'Basic walking' simply isn't cannot be a thing in ED.
X:R did it quite nicely IMHO. If you want 'immersion' (I do) you can walk around the stations, collect missions from NPCs etc. If you dont like that you can just use a menu as if spacelegs wasnt a thing.
Elite will have less depth than that. Guaranteed. Think SRV.
For many, the mere act of walking in a bar and talking to an NPC is more interesting than clicking a menu.
And it shows.
Every world has the same gravity, the same day/night cycle where the day is longer than the night, regardless of latitude, atmospheric effects are purely cosmetic, the planets and moons don’t orbit, and it didn’t take me too long before I started feeling like I was on a soundstage of a 60’s sci-fi serial than on an alien world... with the props recycled from three episodes ago, just with a fresh coat of paint.
It’s a great aesthetic if you’re into that kind of thing, but I prefer harder sci-fi over space opera.
If Frontier were to put that amount of effort in their atmospheric worlds, I’d be handing out pitchforks and torches.
Depends as always on what you mean with depth. If ED has spacelegs from zero-G to very-high G, that itself would immediately make it more 'deep' than NMS (which is basically just walking as in CoD and such without any space-stuff of any sorts).
Albeit, ultimately identical in outcome
I dont play games for the outcome but to have fun, if one is more fun I'll go with that one.
And I’m one of them, but I’ve never suffered the delusion that I represent the typical gamer. Which is why I put the stress on at least.