General / Off-Topic Disappearing History, Lost Runways.

I just did a contract job near where one of my training bases was.

The base had closed, but a (small) museum remained.

At least, that's what I had thought. It's been bulldozed by developers. Locals reported that funding had been cut to maintain it.

Bit by bit, the past is being bulldozed. Airports are prime targets, because they have lots and lots of open space, and sometimes lots of storage.

Smaller private and public fields have been dying for decades now, as the owners die, and the kids/municipalities cash in.

This place had been in operation since 1917. Literally millions of persons passed through the gates, on their way to their careers.

I was #3, out of three million in my AFSC. :)

Now, it's all gone. Even the missile silo (flooding, a common malady for such).

Things that I didn't remember, because I had suppressed it, was the allergies ran wild in the area, and it was up north, cold, dry, and my skin started cracking a *lot* sooner than when I was forty years younger. My poor, dehydrated body screamed in the business-pod hotel I stayed in. Had to keep some water running, and I drank liter after liter of water. Ran though lots of lip balm, etc, and tissue paper. The food quality, for an ag town, was horrid. Even the base chow hall of my memories was better. Horrible stomach reactions. Staying inside, and humidified was the order of the day, off the job.

These small places *are* history. We're losing our collective appreciation for history.
 
I live in the South of the UK and old WWII runways and bases are being sold and granted planning permission all across the South of the UK.

I do lots of club level motorsport and the old military bases were great of our events but our venues are slowly disappearing :(
 
If we keep every bit of scrap around as historic, especially wastes of space like airports, there will be awfully little planet left.
 

Sir.Tj

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Surrounded by WW2 USAF & Raf abandoned bases around here, some have been developed on but a few remain.
 
I am in the Midlands, UK, and work near what was once an airfield, where they built and tested Spitfires and Hurricanes before sent ino service, now a council housing estate. At least most of the roads have an aviation theme. The one that does surprise me and I often wonder whether it was intentional is a pathway named 'Bader Walk', named after the great RAF fighter ace, Douglas Bader. Seriously you couldn't make it up
 
Decomissioned military bases in the Uk are a prime source of revenue for the government as it plans to sell off more than 50 of our former air stations , deemed no longer required or too expensive to keep. Most notable of these is RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire formerly home to the much lauded and highly decorated 617 Squadron RAF , or the better known as The Damnbusters Squadron. The base itself has been in use for 102 years and is currently home to No 1 Air Control Squadron who are responsible for security over British airspace and also home to the Royal Air Force Acrobatic Team, better known as the Red Arrows. The base is to be sold for housing development, and its closure will result in 900 job loses and further impact on the local community. A small building will remain and operate as a museum. This will happen to a further 50ish bases nationwide. Happy 100th Birthday to the RAF from your government. If we lose our heritage , we lose our history and the sacrifices of our forebears will be diminished as a reminder to why we bore arms.
 

verminstar

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History is a sticky point here in Northern Ireland...we can’t move on because we can’t let go of our past. The old divides are still very much there and the old hatred that defined our past still persists bubbling away just under the surface.

A great man once said...now dead from natural causes...”If we forget the mistakes of our past, we are doomed to repeat them in the future.

In saying that, where I live has an unknown number of disused ww2 airfields and other fortifications dotted up and down the entire peninsula. It’s an area of outstanding natural beauty and the landmarks are protected so developers can’t touch them...not that they would want to anyway who in their right mind would wanna love here haha.

The most use they get is from the local bird watchers society because the top end is a massive bird sanctuary.

Yanks used this peninsula in ww2 to patrol the Irish and North Sea right down to the northern Atlantic to patrol as it was very strategically important and subs couldn’t penetrate the strangford lough because it was too shallow with very strong tidal currents...or something. Something to do with bypassing the air space of the republic because they were neutral and secretly loved the naughty Germans ^
 
History is a sticky point here in Northern Ireland...we can’t move on because we can’t let go of our past. The old divides are still very much there and the old hatred that defined our past still persists bubbling away just under the surface.

A great man once said...now dead from natural causes...”If we forget the mistakes of our past, we are doomed to repeat them in the future.

In saying that, where I live has an unknown number of disused ww2 airfields and other fortifications dotted up and down the entire peninsula. It’s an area of outstanding natural beauty and the landmarks are protected so developers can’t touch them...not that they would want to anyway who in their right mind would wanna love here haha.

The most use they get is from the local bird watchers society because the top end is a massive bird sanctuary.

Yanks used this peninsula in ww2 to patrol the Irish and North Sea right down to the northern Atlantic to patrol as it was very strategically important and subs couldn’t penetrate the strangford lough because it was too shallow with very strong tidal currents...or something. Something to do with bypassing the air space of the republic because they were neutral and secretly loved the naughty Germans ^

Interesting to note that despite the enmity between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland at the time ,many thousand young Irishmen enlisted and fought alongside their British enemies in every theatre of war, a total of eight Victoria Crosses were awarded to young Irishmen in World War Two.
 
I resonate with this....I would be divided between keep them for posterity and removing them to clean up or reuse the land. I think we should not forget the past, and we should be judicious about demolishing, maybe what is unique should be kept.
Ironically I work at a factory that is on an ex-RAF runway in Malta, where my grandfather used to work as a driver for the officers. All the airfield has been developed into an industrial estate. Funnily enough the best roads are the ones which were the actual runway.

1960 (north is not vertical with picture)
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2017 (North is the vertical axis)
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verminstar

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Interesting to note that despite the enmity between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland at the time ,many thousand young Irishmen enlisted and fought alongside their British enemies in every theatre of war, a total of eight Victoria Crosses were awarded to young Irishmen in World War Two.

Am well aware, my family on my fathers side originally came from Sligo and both my great grandfather and grandfather fought in both world wars as young Irishmen. They were forcibly removed in the 1950s and only then moved north because they were the wrong religion, despite their service.

Very off topic just wanted to point out that Im very much aware what young Irishmen did as my father still keeps the medals as heirlooms...along with his own fer his part in the Falklands. Almost every generation in our family has seen military service going back into the early 19th century where records get a bit sketchy fer both Irish and British. One of my aunts did the research ages ago because in her mind, she was born in the south and grew up in the north and wanted to know her roots ^
 
We can also destroy a large site but place a commemorative plaque.

We win of the space and the memory is preserved.

Sorry. Real estate developers seldom do that, and all the historic items are gone. Only those who served there, and a dwindling number of locals will remember.

Only the screams of torment (shoveling snow) in the cold, harsh, prairie winds will remain.

Anyone for building on graveyards? It's been happening since the the dawn of construction....and everyone in technology knows the consequences...
 
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