Alien archaeology and other mysteries: Breaking News, Theories and Tinfoil Hattery

[ModishNouns]

It might be possible to extract all the names into a list.

Edit: Well... it would certainly be possible to extract all the proper nouns into a list but there are a lot of systems, stations, factions and other groups.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

It might be possible to extract all the names into a list.

Edit: Well... it would certainly be possible to extract all the proper nouns into a list but there are a lot of systems, stations, factions and other groups.

I don’t see that it would move us any further forward. The original galnet articles are so fuzzy as to give no clues as to membership of the club.

Edit: I vaguely remember that someone in the dim & distant past had drawn up an influence digram of the relationships between different corporations wihtin the game. Might be worth someone revisiting that against the galnet history to see if any of the posts can expand it.

 

[Han_Zen]

From analysis of Premonition I derived the following Club membership list:
Infrastructure, male, the 'leader', technology (Li Yong-Rui)
Finance, female (Ana Quin, Sirius' Junior Vice President of Interstellar Logistics, or Patricia Spell VP of Sirius Finance)
Exo, male, thin & gaunt, exploration & non-core worlds (?)
Personnel, female, small & fierce (Felicia Winters, Fed Shadow President. Came to power rapidly through Halsey & Smeaton incidents)
Society, male, superficially jovial, steely glint, huge frame (not Patron Gerrun! ?)


From Premonition-Epsilon Eridani:“At just over ten light years from Sol, most of its visitors were of a Federal inclination”. If I’m correct in that Personnel was Felicia Winters then it would make sense for the two unknowns on the surface to be some of her staff who were also Club/Dark Wheel members. Elsewhere the book says that Zachary Hudson (Fed President) is being directly manipulated by the Group, so there would need to be Club/Dark Wheel staff in place to exert that manipulation.

I agree that it's likely that Personell is Winters. It's quite clear in the book that she is the one, controlling Hudson.

I don't think Young-Rui is Infrastructure. Both Infrastructure and Society are described as quite fat.
Society is a very large man, although not as fat as Infrastructure. I think it fits well with Edmund Mahon that is described in the book:'He was tall and well built, probably twice her(Tsu) weight and rather portly'.

Young-Rui might well be Exo, from the description and his interest in exploration. There aren't any particular hints to an Exo/Sirius connection though. That seem to be handled by Finance.

I really have no idea who Infrastructure is. No one we know, fits the description to well. If I were to pick one immensely rich, jolly fat bloke in the galaxy, my guess would be Prince Harrold.

 

[ModishNouns]

Could Exo be Ram Tah or Palin?

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Could Exo be Ram Tah or Palin?

I’ve never trusted Palin, though he does a good line in engineered thrusters....
but I don’t think we have any description of Exo to decide. To my mind more likely Palin than Ram Tah, especially given the recent attacks, apparently by Sirius’ hired mercenaries, on Meene.

I agree that it's likely that Personell is Winters. It's quite clear in the book that she is the one, controlling Hudson.

I don't think Young-Rui is Infrastructure. Both Infrastructure and Society are described as quite fat.
Society is a very large man, although not as fat as Infrastructure. I think it fits well with Edmund Mahon that is described in the book:'He was tall and well built, probably twice her(Tsu) weight and rather portly'.

Young-Rui might well be Exo, from the description and his interest in exploration. There aren't any particular hints to an Exo/Sirius connection though. That seem to be handled by Finance.

I really have no idea who Infrastructure is. No one we know, fits the description to well. If I were to pick one immensely rich, jolly fat bloke in the galaxy, my guess would be Prince Harrold.

You could be right; I’d need to reread the book & no time for that at present.

 

[jojon]

Must say it irks me a bit that so much player sleuthing with this game is done with meta information, that our in-game selves would have no way of knowing, but then again beggars can't be choosers.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Must say it irks me a bit that so much player sleuthing with this game is done with meta information, that our in-game selves would have no way of knowing, but then again beggars can't be choosers.

mmm, that’s what I like about it; it was a new form of multimedia gaming experience. FD looked at the inclusion of Holdstock’s novella in the original game, saw what interest that generated in a (then) non -existent entity (Raxxla wasn’t in the game until ED) and built upon that foundation.

I would counter-argue that the amount & quality of the information available to us has degraded since FD started to listen to complaints from people who didn’t read the books, forum threads, or Galnet (this is not a personal dig at you, just a comment about some of the moaners) & change things in an attempt to move info into the game, doesn’t seem to have worked too well to me so far (not counting the Codex here as I don’t beta so haven’t seen it for myself as yet).
And if it wasn’t for the books & galnet posts we’d have absolutely no idea that there was any sort of storyline embedded in the game..
wait...

 

[Vasious]

I firmly believe there are Pilots Federation BBSes where Cmdrs post and discuss the very same rumours and theories

I also believe FFE was a historic fiction adventure dreamware production set in 3250 but with an conspiracy and Alien secret plot, that explains why we all have different opinions as to the cannon ending, and who knows what is fiction and what is true.

Same for the Dark Wheel Novella, again a historic adventure set in 3125, which introducted the dreamware game where one played as Cmdr Jamieson getting his Cobra Mk.III in Lave but with all the Aliens as a way of documenting the Thargoids in plain sight as one of many "Fictional" aliens in the dreamware game.

So the novels could be rumoured biography, real truth, dreamware novellas or all the above.

Was Elite Reclaimation a propoganda dreamware produced by the Loren loyalists to promote Kahina and legitimise her claim to power?.

 

[Factabulous]

"Placeholder text"

 

[ilo]

"Placeholder text"

This changes everything we knew, the game crossed the 4th wall.

 

[Rubbernuke]

Could Exo be Ram Tah or Palin?

Exo (IMO) is LYR.

 

[ExoForce]

"Placeholder text"

Soon You will find out what is coming out from those pods.

 

[Hanerib]

That is interesting. It means Fdev has worked these things out. Perhaps Thargoid surface site is some sort of plant, in terms of biology.

Spoiler

I believe some of those things in beta are what would be called "Oresrians". You know what I mean.

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Originally, Thargoids were a parasitic species.

 

[ExoForce]

This is a pic from current Thargoid structure. I have seen that U-shaped object in the background (marked yellow circle) somewhere else but cannot recall where?

Spoiler

 

[Jmanis]

"Placeholder text"

Also, it's like the placeholder text is from the XKCD "Thing Explainer" book XD

Just saying, my working theory with no further evidence is that Probes, Links, Sensors and these "Pods" actually contain 'Thargoids', for whatever that means, in the same way our escape pods contain people. Thus why Scavengers get aggro if you pop the pods, and interceptors don't want you carrying around those devices.

The only thing I base this off is Thargoids being "truly alien"... if they're anything like a hive collective as seems to be a common thought... well... collectives don't value the individual.... there's a lot we could do that we wouldn't normally be able to do if (today) we sent out probes which actually had people in them to operate equipment and report back. But we don't, coz we're essentially killing those people. A hive may not care as much.

 

[Leadfoot]

Also, it's like the placeholder text is from the XKCD "Thing Explainer" book XD
Just saying, my working theory with no further evidence is that Probes, Links, Sensors and these "Pods" actually contain 'Thargoids', for whatever that means, in the same way our escape pods contain people. Thus why Scavengers get aggro if you pop the pods, and interceptors don't want you carrying around those devices.

The only thing I base this off is Thargoids being "truly alien"... if they're anything like a hive collective as seems to be a common thought... well... collectives don't value the individual.... there's a lot we could do that we wouldn't normally be able to do if (today) we sent out probes which actually had people in them to operate equipment and report back. But we don't, coz we're essentially killing those people. A hive may not care as much.

Fading in and out of this thread since it's so long but a question popped up in my head reading this:

"The thing inside a Thargoid surface site that produces a star map" was something we all looked upon in awe if we either did it or saw it on youtube of other people doing it. It did appear to be a truncated version of the Milky Way so not all stars were shown - it appears to be narrowed-down to a specific set of them, filtered down to specific systems.

Has anyone ever figured out what systems it might be pointing out specifically?
(And I apologize if this has come up before; 178 pages is a lot to cover)

 

[ExoForce]

Thargoid Uplink produces subset of structure star map. I doubt those are actual systems (possibly markers to depict "action" systems).

Pods do not contain Thargoids but seeds for Scavengers.

One of the other 3 "egg" types produces first stage of Thargoid Sensor/Probe. (insert pic here)

Could not yet pinpoint the exact "egg" of Thargoid link, but it obviously went through the similar "patching" process as Sensor,
while it goes through "uterine tube" that leads all the way up close to the "shutter door" tube on the top.

Random pic of "uterine tube" door from actual Thargoid Structure:

 

[Th3 0utKa5t]

This is a pic from current Thargoid structure. I have seen that U-shaped object in the background (marked yellow circle) somewhere else but cannot recall where?

those look like the parts you drive over inside the TS when you deposit the probe, link and sensor in to the map machine before turning it on, it kind of looks like you have clipped through the top of the structure to see the map room below.

 

[ExoForce]

those look like the parts you drive over inside the TS when you deposit the probe, link and sensor in to the map machine before turning it on, it kind of looks like you have clipped through the top of the structure to see the map room below.

Thanks, You are correct. Was looking at my pics and forgot that I have entered TS through the "shutter door" above.
Glitch probably caused by bellow spec notebook. Sorry for false alarm, thought the detail was seen on some alien form.

Now I see it here:

https://canonn.science/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Jun_27_2017-9.jpg

 

[Yure]

There was a galnet article hinting that they way the mark things in space might not be same as ours. Instead of by systems, it is by regions.