Please allow us to use the already-integrated docking computer.

[Leadfoot]

Your veiled insult has backfired - a modern aircraft can use autopilot to land at a large, well-equipped airport with ILS and ATC, whereas that same system is useless for landing at a small rural airport only equipped with landing lights and a windsock. In other words, your reasoning is backwards

Disclaimer: IANAP

To further that point, referring to ILS Cat III, I believe. A 747 can "auto-land" right down to the flair-out point, if I'm not mistaken. Also, not a pilot but played one on FSX.

Oh, FYI, you look much prettier now, Mr. Duck. Nice make-over.

 

[Bunkerkind Anni]

please, stop talking about ILS... in Elite dangerous we got nothing but a Dot pointing into a relative direction to guide us... its not even highlighted on the actual HUD what docking port is the one assigned to us.

 

[Tifu]

[video=youtube_share;5VBD7hVRhx0]https://youtu.be/5VBD7hVRhx0[/video]

Fully automated by 2020.

In what century is ED supposed to take place in again?

 

[Leadfoot]

please, stop talking about ILS... in Elite dangerous we got nothing but a Dot pointing into a relative direction to guide us... its not even highlighted on the actual HUD what docking port is the one assigned to us.

Sometimes all you need is a "dot" to tell you when you're on the beam.
Other times you need a needle....with all the trimmings.

 

[Old Duck]

please, stop talking about ILS... in Elite dangerous we got nothing but a Dot pointing into a relative direction to guide us... its not even highlighted on the actual HUD what docking port is the one assigned to us.

ILS, ILS, ILS!

You triggered yet?

ILS!!!

 

[777Driver]

To further that point, referring to ILS Cat III, I believe. A 747 can "auto-land" right down to the flair-out point, if I'm not mistaken. Also, not a pilot but played one on FSX.

Oh, FYI, you look much prettier now, Mr. Duck. Nice make-over.

CAT III is just extra runway lights, lower RVR and restricted areas near the signal. You can autoland with any modern commercial airliner on a CAT I ILS signal.

Sometimes all you need is a "dot" to tell you when you're on the beam.
Other times you need a needle....with all the trimmings.

That is a localizer only approach.

 

[Vorxian]

Does this include a slightly magnetised needle, on a piece of cork floating in a petri dish of iodine?

Because.... My Cutter has one of them! It uses up a small internal slot.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Fully automated by 2020.

In what century is ED supposed to take place in again?

Its a game in 2018. And yes, as I have said before, if it were realistic none of us would be flying anything in ED, because human meatsacks in spaceships is a stupidly primitive notion.

 

[Old Duck]

.....because human meatsacks in spaceships is a stupidly primitive notion.

I'd leave that off your resume if you ever apply for a job at NASA or SpaceX...

 

[777Driver]

I'd leave that off your resume if you ever apply for a job at NASA or SpaceX...

I think both would actually agree with sleutelbos..

 

[Old Duck]

I think both would actually agree with sleutelbos..

If that's the conclusion you come to after reading this, then we'll have to agree to disagree.

NASA is developing the capabilities needed to send humans to an asteroid by 2025 and Mars in the 2030s – goals outlined in the bipartisan NASA Authorization Act of 2010 and in the U.S. National Space Policy, also issued in 2010.

Mars is a rich destination for scientific discovery and robotic and human exploration as we expand our presence into the solar system. Its formation and evolution are comparable to Earth, helping us learn more about our own planet’s history and future. Mars had conditions suitable for life in its past. Future exploration could uncover evidence of life, answering one of the fundamental mysteries of the cosmos: Does life exist beyond Earth?

While robotic explorers have studied Mars for more than 40 years, NASA’s path for the human exploration of Mars begins in low-Earth orbit aboard the International Space Station. Astronauts on the orbiting laboratory are helping us prove many of the technologies and communications systems needed for human missions to deep space, including Mars. The space station also advances our understanding of how the body changes in space and how to protect astronaut health.

Our next step is deep space, where NASA will send a robotic mission to capture and redirect an asteroid to orbit the moon. Astronauts aboard the Orion spacecraft will explore the asteroid in the 2020s, returning to Earth with samples. This experience in human spaceflight beyond low-Earth orbit will help NASA test new systems and capabilities, such as Solar Electric Propulsion, which we’ll need to send cargo as part of human missions to Mars. Beginning in FY 2018, NASA’s powerful Space Launch System rocket will enable these “proving ground” missions to test new capabilities. Human missions to Mars will rely on Orion and an evolved version of SLS that will be the most powerful launch vehicle ever flown.

A fleet of robotic spacecraft and rovers already are on and around Mars, dramatically increasing our knowledge about the Red Planet and paving the way for future human explorers. The Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity rover measured radiation on the way to Mars and is sending back radiation data from the surface. This data will help us plan how to protect the astronauts who will explore Mars. Future missions like the Mars 2020 rover, seeking signs of past life, also will demonstrate new technologies that could help astronauts survive on Mars.

Engineers and scientists around the country are working hard to develop the technologies astronauts will use to one day live and work on Mars, and safely return home from the next giant leap for humanity. NASA also is a leader in a Global Exploration Roadmap, working with international partners and the U.S. commercial space industry on a coordinated expansion of human presence into the solar system, with human missions to the surface of Mars as the driving goal. Follow our progress at www.nasa.gov/exploration and www.nasa.gov/mars.

https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars

 

[Stealthie]

If that's the conclusion you come to after reading this, then we'll have to agree to disagree....

Humans are great at evaluating and improvising but the simple fact is that the vast majority of stuff doesn't actually need those abilities once we've sufficiently defined the requirements for something.

Ironically enough, games like ED demonstrate that exact situation.
We've got NPCs that can do pretty-much anything we do, to the point where the dev's actually nerf them so we don't get our asses handed to us, and we've even got dodgy 'bots carrying out some of the same tasks we do too.

There'll always be a need for human beings to do new things but machines do routine things much better.
The only reason you allow humans to carry on doing routine things is if there's a substantial cost involved in creating the infrastructure required to allow a machine to do something or if there's an issue of liability regarding that thing.

 

[777Driver]

If that's the conclusion you come to after reading this, then we'll have to agree to disagree.

NASA is developing the capabilities needed to send humans to an asteroid by 2025 and Mars in the 2030s – goals outlined in the bipartisan NASA Authorization Act of 2010 and in the U.S. National Space Policy, also issued in 2010.

Mars is a rich destination for scientific discovery and robotic and human exploration as we expand our presence into the solar system. Its formation and evolution are comparable to Earth, helping us learn more about our own planet’s history and future. Mars had conditions suitable for life in its past. Future exploration could uncover evidence of life, answering one of the fundamental mysteries of the cosmos: Does life exist beyond Earth?

While robotic explorers have studied Mars for more than 40 years, NASA’s path for the human exploration of Mars begins in low-Earth orbit aboard the International Space Station. Astronauts on the orbiting laboratory are helping us prove many of the technologies and communications systems needed for human missions to deep space, including Mars. The space station also advances our understanding of how the body changes in space and how to protect astronaut health.

Our next step is deep space, where NASA will send a robotic mission to capture and redirect an asteroid to orbit the moon. Astronauts aboard the Orion spacecraft will explore the asteroid in the 2020s, returning to Earth with samples. This experience in human spaceflight beyond low-Earth orbit will help NASA test new systems and capabilities, such as Solar Electric Propulsion, which we’ll need to send cargo as part of human missions to Mars. Beginning in FY 2018, NASA’s powerful Space Launch System rocket will enable these “proving ground” missions to test new capabilities. Human missions to Mars will rely on Orion and an evolved version of SLS that will be the most powerful launch vehicle ever flown.

A fleet of robotic spacecraft and rovers already are on and around Mars, dramatically increasing our knowledge about the Red Planet and paving the way for future human explorers. The Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity rover measured radiation on the way to Mars and is sending back radiation data from the surface. This data will help us plan how to protect the astronauts who will explore Mars. Future missions like the Mars 2020 rover, seeking signs of past life, also will demonstrate new technologies that could help astronauts survive on Mars.

Engineers and scientists around the country are working hard to develop the technologies astronauts will use to one day live and work on Mars, and safely return home from the next giant leap for humanity. NASA also is a leader in a Global Exploration Roadmap, working with international partners and the U.S. commercial space industry on a coordinated expansion of human presence into the solar system, with human missions to the surface of Mars as the driving goal. Follow our progress at www.nasa.gov/exploration and www.nasa.gov/mars.

https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasas-journey-to-mars

Don't think you quite understand, Sleutelbos is talking about humans operating spacecraft in the future, you wont find meatsacks at the helm, trust me... Same deal with Aircraft,cars,ships. Humans are great at thinking outside the box, that is as far as it goes, in basically everything else we are the weakest link.

Like it or not, it is the truth.

 

[jasonbarron]

Don't think you quite understand, Sleutelbos is talking about humans operating spacecraft in the future, you wont find meatsacks at the helm, trust me... Same deal with Aircraft,cars,ships. Humans are great at thinking outside the box, that is as far as it goes, in basically everything else we are the weakest link.

Like it or not, it is the truth.

Given that in ED's version of the future we're all tootling around in the sci fi version of bi-planes as opposed to something more Isaac Asimov-ish, I think I'm going to side with old duck on this one.

 

[777Driver]

Given that in ED's version of the future we're all tootling around in the sci fi version of bi-planes as opposed to something more Isaac Asimov-ish.

Like 90% of all SCI-FI, doesn't make for interesting gameplay having Hal 9000 doing all the work.

 

[Misty_Dark]

“Which integrated docking computer?” I hear you say.

The one that allows your ship to launch and land again when commanded to from the SRV.

C’mon FDev - you cant deny it’s there: let us use it without having to install a separate module.

I think they should remove this ferautre for yor ship to launch and be able to return without having a NPC onboard, if you put down your ship somewhere and drive for hours away from it, you should need top drive back to the ship again..... there is already to much inconsistencies in this game, so time to remove these... one by one, when suitable alternatives are there.

 

[Han_Zen]

Its a game in 2018. And yes, as I have said before, if it were realistic none of us would be flying anything in ED, because human meatsacks in spaceships is a stupidly primitive notion.

“The best computer is a man, and it's the only one that can be mass-produced by unskilled labor.”

 

[nanite2000]

I think they should remove this ferautre for yor ship to launch and be able to return without having a NPC onboard, if you put down your ship somewhere and drive for hours away from it, you should need top drive back to the ship again..... there is already to much inconsistencies in this game, so time to remove these... one by one, when suitable alternatives are there.

No.

 

[Dizzy B High]

Docking computer should be removed as a module, Instead it becomes an option next to request docking.
Request Docking Assistance: The station sends out a dude/dudette in a little tug ship which tows you into your landing pad.

 

[Audaxxx]

Agreed this should just be an option from the side panel when docking. It's not like it's a specific module thats required for a certain role. Should be treated like the DS as its application is so broad like the DS is in the beta.