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If you say that's what I was doing, then... that's probably what I was doing.
So much time wasted typing.
Have a nice day.
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If you say that's what I was doing, then... that's probably what I was doing.
So much time wasted typing.
Have a nice day.
I gave up on engaging with Bob, everything you say gets either ignored or twisted. Also as much as I disagree with AP IBirdman, at least he is being honest unlike most defenders of the status quo. None of that "woo I'm a pirate" euphemism razzmatazz. I mean, how dare the PVE crowd ask for a place in open, go get them!
Bob Lighthouse
Banned
It is a lot of wasted typing since you ironically are missing my points entirely.
That you think it's ok to malign everyone else who doesn't play your way is just the (hypocritical) icing on that cake.
LOL
Case in point, I'm not angry, as you implied.
I think this is a silly dead horse.
But I'll keep trying to make it drink!
some people like it hard. [woah]
but i don't think you understood what pvp means. you're supposed to deploy your hardpoints, poor thing. no wonder you find it boring!!! [noob]
anyway those are indeed pretty grim stats if you expected some other type of productive exchange. never met a roleplaying pirate knight? being goddam ziggy, no one ever interdict you just to say hi? i would!
Bob Lighthouse
Banned
You have a place in Open. If you refuse to learn the score of Open, that's no one's fault but your own.
Also, like, maybe think of things to do that don't involve player hot spots? There's lots of fun to be had outside those areas.
EDIT: One more thing. Just posted this in DD but Inara has a security report that tracks Commander murders. Use it. https://inara.cz/galaxy/
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Interesting.
Depending on how much time I have, I'll either fight/run or throttle down and invite them to blow up my ship, then attend to my current objective another way. I have enough space bucks to rebuy any of my ships over 150 times. The problem I have with running or fighting is the amount of time it adds to things (the other day it took me 35 minutes to travel the 331 Ls to Jameson Memorial due to a persistent CMDR with big hitting guns that I spent many minutes dodging). Sometimes my time on the game is limited and I have things I want to do in game. I have to make the decision whether it is more time efficient to run/fight or become explodey space pixels and do my thing some other way, perhaps another route, or in Solo.
Being attacked in Open for no reason is part of the game. Some days it's exciting, some days it's irritating. I just deal with it one way or another, as long as it's in-universe. Mind you, if deaths were actually meaningful, I'd do things differently.
Depending on how much time I have, I'll either fight/run or throttle down and invite them to blow up my ship, then attend to my current objective another way. I have enough space bucks to rebuy any of my ships over 150 times. The problem I have with running or fighting is the amount of time it adds to things (the other day it took me 35 minutes to travel the 331 Ls to Jameson Memorial due to a persistent CMDR with big hitting guns that I spent many minutes dodging). Sometimes my time on the game is limited and I have things I want to do in game. I have to make the decision whether it is more time efficient to run/fight or become explodey space pixels and do my thing some other way, perhaps another route, or in Solo.
Being attacked in Open for no reason is part of the game. Some days it's exciting, some days it's irritating. I just deal with it one way or another, as long as it's in-universe. Mind you, if deaths were actually meaningful, I'd do things differently.
AP Birdman
Banned
I'm not lumping you together. Simply, from my perspective, your motivation, or motivation of others that destroyed my defencless ship in under 5 seconds without saying a word don't matter. I had no fun, you had probably little more.
If you happen to find me in open and want some shooting, just talk to me after interdiction and give me some time to deploy my fighter (i don't use npc pilots). You'll be able to kill me at least 7 times
THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! 5 different people in this thread have made suggestions to you on how to build a ship so that it won't get blown up and YOU have ignored them.
Cknarf, who is one of the best pilots I know, even offered to help you turn that T9 into a force to be reckoned with and you ignored him.
So I don't want to hear another word that we're not seeing it from your point of view because you are unwilling to put in the slightest bit of effort to ensure you won't get blown up.
This is the same argument I hear from a small minority of players that don't want to take part in pvp and complain about griefers but are unwilling to do anything about it.
Instead of you changing your lazy gaming habits, you want the game to change so you can be lazy.
The T9 in today's stream got blown up in what, four or five seconds on multiple occasions.
How would you build a T9 so it doesn't get blown up in for or five seconds by an uber-engineered lulzboat, and more importantly, how would you convince somebody to spend all that engineering time and fly a T9 that might survive four or five seconds - and what would they gain from it?
In not as few seconds perhaps
Perhaps I phrased it badly - but someone loving flying their Spacecow about trucking biowaste from place to place, what do they gain from the whole time spent non-trucking and ending up with a Spacecow designed for non-optimal Spacecowing - and in all likeliehood get blown up in seconds anyway?
In not as few seconds perhaps
Perhaps I phrased it badly - but someone loving flying their Spacecow about trucking biowaste from place to place, what do they gain from the whole time spent non-trucking and ending up with a Spacecow designed for non-optimal Spacecowing - and in all likeliehood get blown up in seconds anyway?
To paraphrase from Rinzler's Git Gud video: "Nothing is worse for your credits per hour than a rebuy screen".
When I fly my T-9 occasionally losing it is factored into the profit margin.
As a sidenote I don't think the 'stay in open' case is really being made very well here. If I meet some amicable players I'm happy to interact, if I meet people I think are acting like jerks trying to spoil my fun I'll just switch to solo for the next run if I really want to get past them. It's no skin off my nose.
If anyone reading this thinks they might be the kind of player someone like me might think of as a jerk, just try to think about why we are both in Open in the first place - to meet people & be entertained. So try to be entertaining content for me, and I will try to be entertaining content for you. Might even let you escort me to the station & share my wing mission reward
You can interact in a lot more ways with another player than you can with an NPC.
As a sidenote I don't think the 'stay in open' case is really being made very well here. If I meet some amicable players I'm happy to interact, if I meet people I think are acting like jerks trying to spoil my fun I'll just switch to solo for the next run if I really want to get past them. It's no skin off my nose.
If anyone reading this thinks they might be the kind of player someone like me might think of as a jerk, just try to think about why we are both in Open in the first place - to meet people & be entertained. So try to be entertaining content for me, and I will try to be entertaining content for you. Might even let you escort me to the station & share my wing mission reward
You can interact in a lot more ways with another player than you can with an NPC.
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AP Birdman
Banned
That looks pretty similar to mine, although I have A-rated shields not Bi-weave (no powerplay toys for me coz I don't cynically exploit the system
). In my T-9 I'm not going to hang around, I'm just going to try to escape so I don't need the shields to be able to recharge quickly, I just want them to be big. I can wait for them to recharge before going for another run.ETA An alternative build would be shieldless & cheap as chips. If you're gonna lose it anyway it might as well be cheap, and it might as well carry a lot on the successful trips.
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Thanks for that - very interesting. However - just what can 139MJ shields stand up to, how much DPS does the average lulzboat dish out, how long til it blows up the Spacecow, and how long until an ever better lulzboat metabuild is discovered to blow it up even faster?
I don't have much of an answer for that, the T-9 is a flying coffin
The T-7 does at least do well with interdictions, but if I'm expecting trouble I'll use my Cutter instead. Carries less cargo (mine is just over 500 compared to way over 700 for my T-9) but very safe.Part of the reason I like the T-9 is that it actually is risky flying one, certainly far more risky than any zero cargo prismatically protected PvP ship
Some of you people seem to not understand a word. Just like if some sentences and thoughts are invisible to you.
Just maybe read my posts again, because it's just weird.
Seriously, you missed my point completely.
let's try again:
first of all,
I DON"T WANT TO CHANGE MY LAZY GAMING HABITS. I LIKE THEM. THEY'RE MINE.
now that's out of the way,
I'm trying to let you know that even if I'm not playing this game as if it was Arena (many of you seem to confuse Open with Arena btw), I CAN play your victim, if that's what you want, but if you're not doing anything to make it interesting for me, then I'll be avoiding it. I'll be playing Solo and you'll have one less T9 to shoot at.
(And sorry, I will not be doing it even more interesting for you by building my T9 so it would be better at what you like to do with it)
You like shooting helpless T9? Fine. That's why i'm in the Open probably.
Just give me some love. Play with the food for a second maybe.
Because otherwise it's BOOOORING.
I did some quick builds on coriolis and a FdL plasma murder boat could finish it off in about thirty seconds instead of five. Plenty of time to high wake, if you wanted to. Unless your FSD got broken by something, which then becomes a game of "what to do to avoid that" which quickly becomes a game of how to build your ship and stuff, which may not be a game you like.
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