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Yep, well look, anything along these lines in order to give bounty hunting a proper role along with allowing players to 'self-police' the galaxy to a certain extent would be a good start.. Sure, there would be potential credit making holes that need plugging @Backelaer but i'm sure this could be ironed out somehow.
I doubt it could for this simple reason : criminal will still have the same goal. Because there is no reward opportunity for him in order to balance harsher consequences and punishments, his goal will, as it is atm, to avoid getting caught. Why would anyone take a risk without any reward ?
So the criminal player would use available tools like blocking/menu logging (and maybe more un-punished stuff) in order to avoid it or they will simply exploit the system to make money with their mates.
Don't get me wrong, i agree notoriety and system security should have meaning but don't forget the other side of the coin.
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Simply remove any possibility of credit farming, by providing the reward not just on credit terms, but providing decals, paintjobs (ie LAPD stylee for example) etc. credits are easy to come by anyway and I suspect most crims have more than enough already. There must be other rewards asides from credits to encourage bounty hunting?
Isn't that the very opposite of a deterrent? Wouldn't that actively ENCOURAGE some to break the law?
Simple and effective would be - once your notoriety gets above a certain point...if you dock the ship which THAT notoriety was gained in at any barring NON-Anarchy systems...its impounded by the authorities...loss of ship...loss of modules...
Makes sense from a "lore" point of view (Legitimate Authorities impounding Criminal Vessels) and whilst the money isn't a big deterrent...having to re-engineer a ship/modules would be off-putting for many...
The exploit comes from generating money out of thin air by two or more players cynically claiming each others bounties. Even if the cash comes out of the wanted players own pocket that's still cash transfer which enables goldmining.
If the reprobate is shown on the galmap no further exploit is enabled beyond those already in the game, and effectively opens up some gameplay. The target would still be able to play in solo/PvE group to avoid being chased, but would therefore no longer be able to attack other players while they meekly hide.
What new exploit would this introduce? Or what existing exploit would be made more popular?
I would like to see a combination of these ideas. But why wait for notoriety of 10? 1 could be a mistake, give the CMDR a chance to clear it, but at 2 its game on. Global flag everyone can see with same "wing" capability for instancing and severe impounding of assets at the stations.
Blocking & CLogging are existing issues that would not be made worse. If anything awareness of their exploitation would be given a higher profile, potentially motivating FDev to take some action.
ETA PeLucheuh your view and those of other 'criminal minded' players is important here, allowing all players to see where notorious players are should ideally be a way to bring a divided community together while providing more emergent gameplay and imfamy for the 'baddie'. I don't think it should be a stick to beat you with, but it would add more consequence to being notoriety 10 if you know you will be shown on the map.
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WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Diminishing returns is easy.
But if you all would stop and think for 2 seconds. Crime and Punishment/notoriety rework comes into play here now.
The whole system was reworked for it to work in OPEN. Working the BGS in Open against people is where this is supposed to happen.
Just like Powerplay was always made for PVP. Well hate to break it to everyone here. But that whole system was reworked for player interaction. And all those loopholes have been closed.
They could flip the switch right now and it would work.
If you understand and know how to play the BGS and PVP at the same time.
Everything falls into place.
But around here I am just a troll that never knows what hes talking about.
Not sure blocking is an issue. CLogging most certainly is imo.
Has someone submitted this in Suggestions? I would love to see this implemented.
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It would, yes. I don't see that as a bad thing, I see it as a dilemma. I like a good dilemma, me
If the notorious player blocks the only players capable of taking them down it's an issue. Removing blocking for all is an issue. A rule could be added where (for example) your blocklist only blocks chat at notoriety 10. These are solvable problems, but their ramifications would need to be weighed up, yes.
I haven't, I'm just brainstorming having read the comments in this thread. By all means start one & flesh it out
Oh to be clear I'm not against plaers with a bounty showing up on galmap (although the galmap might get pretty clogged if not implemented properly). That wouldn't cause any further exploits I agree.
I assumed the guy I quoted was also talking about increased bounties when he talked about player-based bountyhunting missions and getting people interested in them. Perhaps he didn't mean that though.
I certainly agree increasing bounties or relaxing the cap opens up potential for exploit. It could be tweaked.
I don't know how many players sit at notoriety 10, but FDev do & the rule could be tweaked to include lower levels if needed, or something else. I think the basic idea has legs.
Just buy an FSDI & start interdicting people. Use a cheap ship imo.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Just go do it. Dont worry about their feelings. You can chose to kill them or not.
At first I didnt kill anyone, just shot their drives out and told them to reboot.
But the minute they started cussing and running their mouth. Kill em.