The Star Citizen Thread v9

I'm sure I will get the "where is the video comment on this" but, its all good. Yesterdays game play was ordinary until the end. What was going to be an early night, with just a couple cargo runs turned into a 1am bed time for me. Which is definitely out of the norm, but, it ended up being the best gaming experience of my life.

I will not bore you with the mundane stuff, rather give a quick overview: We have solidified ourselves as a 3 man team. Player 1: Is a "I want to be efficient as possible and make the most amount of money as I can" type of person, so credits per hour matter. He owns the Connie and also purchased a prospector because it was taking to long to achieve his goals. So say $400 into the game. Player 2: Me, you already know about $550 into the game. Player 3: $65 into the game. The reason I bring this up is because it sets the stage for the next part. While I still disagree that it is pay to win, it is definitely pay to maximize fun from our perspective.


So the session started off pretty regular, BHing NPC's, Running Cargo loops, and the 1 mission that I enjoyed was Thief Recover. Basically, track NPC ship (fly to coordinates), fight NPC (explode ship), take their cargo and return it to the owner. Lots of work for 270 UEC. After we made some money and did this for a while, we decided we wanted to do a Jump Town run. We did three JT runs in total, with the first 2 ended with in epic failures. One of our members made it all the way inside the building and was executed at the terminal. So he rage quit.


Fast forward after great family time for me, not sure what they do, and kiddos are in bed. We group up around 9:15 my time. We putz around doing some more tasks, learning new features and the rage quitter (who cares about credits per hour) decides (while he didn't buy SC for the FPS aspect) he was going to gear up. So we drop about 20K on his gear, and another 10K on player 3's Rail gun and other stuff. So we need to recover our money, as member number 1 is hell bent on increasing his credit value. We do a couple runs in the connie and 600 and we are back to even ish. That's when we decide to load my cyclone into the connie with the intent of doing a ground assault on Jump Town (we had to change our TTP's).


Jump Town Initial ground infiltration operation :

When we got to JT, their was a massive org vs org battle going on! There were two hammer heads (which appear to be fully staffed, as all turrets are blasting each other), sabers, super hornets, titans, cutty's, and probably more but I didn't see them going at it. We land about 1 terrain feature away and drop the ramp on the connie. I get the cyclone out with two of us on board and the third member is getting off the connie when it explodes! (It was awesome, the shock wave was seen all around us). We thought we were seen, but, we were not. Then an aerial fight breaks out over our head, so we are not longer assessed as the primary threat, while the JT occupiers clean up the aerial battle. Lesson one: The cyclone can only hold 2 players, we tried to put the 3rd guy in back with a Light Machine Gun, but, every time I hit a bump he fell out. We got about 500m from where the Connie exploded and decided we were going in on foot. So we abandoned the cyclone, this turned out to be a great decision. The Occupiers were now actively pinging the area, which means the cyclone was detectable. With in a minute or so, they were on the cyclone. But, instead of blowing it up, one of their players jump into it and drove it to the front door of JT. Now we know how long our walk is! Lesson 2: either leave abandoned gear, or blow it in place. Well we now know that we are walking 4.8KM to jump town, which is about a 15 minute walk/run without being searched for. We all decide, we didn't come this far to be upset with a 15 minute hold down W task. While we walked to the objective, the occupiers did several low passes with lights on in our direction, so we had to evade that. Lesson 3: We down graded our gear midway through the 4.5km walk to undersuits so that our stamina would last longer, as we were all in either medium or heavy armor. We stayed like this until 500m out. Thus far during the walk, we were in a fire team wedge, that way if 1 was spotted the others could still accomplish the mission.


Actions on the objective:

At 100M, we encircled the outpost. With our Railgunner / sniper over watching the front door, while me and the other member ran to the objective. You can low crawl under the outpost as it sits on low stilts. With luck, the other org finally wiped out their occupying orgs air defense. (Watching a HH explode was great too). Then they landed a single ship with two players and got out. We executed them immediately. Our ground surveillance revealed at least 2 people in the building (their are windows you can look in). So the plan was simple: My self and member 1 would go into the building while the Railgunner / sniper would provide overwatch for space craft and external snipers.

Actions inside JT:
As the number 1 man my job was simply to die and try to take as many as I could. The reason for this: I own the 600i, which has better shields and firepower than the Connie and we will need aerial support. So no matter what, I had to die to get my ship from port Oli. Well it worked, we took out their 3 defenders and I died.

Defense of JT: (daylight operation)
We of course talked mad smack on the open channel chat, and knew they were coming back. In our defense, they had no idea how many members we had. They kept asking what Org we belong to, I believe they wanted to look up the org on the website. So we just talked smack and told everyone that JT was closed until further notice. They were able to get to JT before me (obviously) and started planning their assault. They killed off our sniper, so he was behind me in his ship and I was going as fast I could to our last man standing. When I got to JT, they had 5 ships total and not all in the air, a saber (threat 1 in the air), 2 super hornets (threat 2 and 3 in the air), a titan (threat 4 in the air) and a titan on the ground (ground force threat 1). They were so focused on JT, they didn't realize that I was inbound, at 1700m I shot and killed the saber. They reacted, but, to late, my next rounds took out a super hornet. Then they were on to me. They wanted to face tank me, which was ok with me. I took my 3rd shot and grazed the next super hornet. My weapons were now overheated and I didn't have a crew member on board to run power to weapons. I ended up killing the next hornet while member 3 killed the titan. I killed all the vehicles on the ground too (when your enemy goes to ground, kill their escape means). Our guy inside JT took out their assaulters and had about 100 rounds left and used 4 of his 5 medipens.

Our planned haul out:

With the 600i dominating the air space, we decided we didn't want to hold JT again, so I landed and filled up on Widow. We kept member 3 in the air, so he can actively ping for inbounds ship, member 1 provided overwatch on the ramp of the 600 and I went into buy the goods. As I was coming out, our airborne surveillance detected a threat and we needed to high tale it out of their. At their 4km out, I was landing gear up and off the surface with full afterburner and boost engaged for maximum escape velocity. We all got away clean, except we all have a 5 out 5 crime stat.

Cargo off loading:

We made it to a rest stop about 6M miles away, so we would be out of site / out of mind. During the jump, we announced over chat that JT is open. Once we got to the rest station and within 2km I was under heavy fire from the rest stop. We jumped out. At this point it was almost 1 am!!!!!! did the night go? I decided I needed to get off, so we jumped to port Oli to bed down the 600 and pull out our start ships for tomorrows (now today's session).

Planned session:

We need reduce our crime stat and off load the cargo. The 600 will stay safely tucked into port oli and we will either peacefully go to the security station and hack the terminals, or we will occupy it by force! Then we need to distribute the cash.

Over all: Amazing game play, but, if you are in it for credits per our, it sucked! We did 3.5 hours ish and will only make 20K UEC. No game out or in Alpha today (and SC is not out, got it) that I know of, allows a player to go from pilot, to driver, to ground force, to pilot. All of which are in freaken space with AMAZING graphics and fidelity.

As you correctly guessed: awesome amazing stories totally not matching any streams with nothing to back them up doesnt do it for me. Especially when you are willing to spend a lot of time typing about it rather than click the five buttons needed to record it and upload it to youtube. Sorry. It is so easy to just show us if it is really true, you cant expect people to take your word for it given how it doesnt match the plethora of counter evidence. The obvious conclusion is: probably dressed up a lot.

Tl;dr while some here are unreasonably negative, you seem unreasonably positive.
 
As you correctly guessed: awesome amazing stories totally not matching any streams with nothing to back them up doesnt do it for me. Especially when you are willing to spend a lot of time typing about it rather than click the five buttons needed to record it and upload it to youtube. Sorry. It is so easy to just show us if it is really true, you cant expect people to take your word for it given how it doesnt match the plethora of counter evidence. The obvious conclusion is: probably dressed up a lot.

Tl;dr while some here are unreasonably negative, you seem unreasonably positive.

Why watch a video when I freely invite others here to join me. Lord_Pydus in SC. Also, typing is a lot easier than trying to do the other stuff for me. Hell I just learned discord this week.
 
Why watch a video when I freely invite others here to join me. Lord_Pydus in SC. Also, typing is a lot easier than trying to do the other stuff for me. Hell I just learned discord this week.

Sleut is right though...I can rave positive about an average night of gameplay too...but that would be completely unrealistic since a great majority of my time is spent frustrated by bugs that lose me any sense of progression...at all. I'm not into the space commando raids on Jumptown every 5 minutes...pointless venture since credits are completely transitory and all this FPS combat stuff is heading to a part of gameplay I merely tolerate rather than enjoy.

The sheer amount of times I've started with 5 aUEC to my name after a bug or game client crash has left me with no ship and no cargo or credits is becoming the story of my online time in SC...yes, I've shared in some of the experiences you have...but I can't wax all lyrical about a small part of gameplay when the majority of it has me hitting my head off the keyboard more often than not.
 
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Life as a space hobo with only 5auec to your name would be an interesting gameplay loop though :)

See how much of a fortune you can amass simply by tramping around the ‘Verse in enthralling emergent vagrant gameplay. When they bring the “needs a shower” mechanic online weaponize it, and force your victims into olefactory defensive animations that lets you rob them blind.

It’s going to be glorious!
 
Why watch a video when I freely invite others here to join me. Lord_Pydus in SC. Also, typing is a lot easier than trying to do the other stuff for me. Hell I just learned discord this week.

Because you sound like that mate who carries an iPhone 24/7, claims to encounter all kind of epic and very unlikely adventures but never manages to snap a pic because 'just telling you all is so much easier, I barely know how to unlock my phone!'

It just sounds very unlikely, doubly so when tons of people go to the same places, record everything and never have it happen. Sure, we could all join you on your trips to Loch Ness, but a picture or two of Nessie wouldnt hurt before we make the effort.
 
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Because you sound like that mate who carries an iPhone 24/7, claims to encounter all kind of epic and very unlikely adventures but never manages to snap a pic because 'just telling you all is so much easier, I barely know how to unlock my phone!'

It just sounds very unlikely, doubly so when tons of people go to the same places, record everything and never have it happen. Sure, we could all join you on your trips to Loch Ness, but a picture or two of Nessie wouldnt hurt before we make the effort.

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Nessie...with my mate from New Zealand last year :)

Just missed Nessie in this pic too...dived below the surface before my phone cam could focus properly :(

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Is that a Ural?

Star Citizen needs proper space motorbikes :)

Aye, 'tis indeed... our go to camping bus since it can carry the 2 of us and 250 kilos of glamping nonsense....gone are the days of a canvas 4x4 tent and an army schlafsack bungied onto the Harley with a tin of beans and a fighting spoon stuffed in the pocket of my Irving flying jacket [sad]
 
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Is there any unbiased examination of this? I'm somewhat confused. This was throwing out part of the case, not the whole thing?

EDIT: AKA neither he-who-shall-not-be-named or the usual suspects on YouTube. [hehe]

All the legal documents are online. Here's the judge's summary right now:

https://m.imgur.com/LBjig3J

There are 6 components to CIG's motion to dismiss, 4 of them are denied, 2 of them are granted.

Crytek are granted 21 days leave to amend the complaint.

It's going into discovery and then it will go to trial next summer unless CIG settle.

It's all there in black and white, that guy on youtube hasn't read any of it. He's completely wrong, the court order is right there.
 
Nessie...with my mate from New Zealand last year :)

Just missed Nessie in this pic too...dived below the surface before my phone cam could focus properly :(

That is a fantastic piece of machinery!

I've always wanted to spend a few nights camping up there with a pair of binos and a spotter scope. Just in case you know...
 
Cool! Must be pretty epic to drive around in those regions! :)

I was lucky in that sense. I was born and grew up 20 miles or so over that ridge of hills on a remote farm...places like that used to be my playground as a kid when I wasn't roped in for the many farming chores.

Still feels like I'm home when I go back visiting or camping...since I live on a remote island in the Orkneys these days. You can take the boy out of the Highlands...but you can't take the Highlander out of the boy :)

Strange to think I spoke no English at all until I first went to school at 5 years old...Gaelic being my mother tongue.
 
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Lesson 3: We down graded our gear midway through the 4.5km walk to undersuits so that our stamina would last longer, as we were all in either medium or heavy armor. We stayed like this until 500m out.
Query: When you say you downgraded to your undersuits, does that mean you dumped your armour? Because the second part implies that you put it back on when you got close. Are you able to magic clothing into existence in Star Citizen?
 
The warlord has literally just posted what I take to be a rebuttal video to that youtube lawyer video.

https://youtu.be/lk_XO6aG1zk

He's pulled up the Pacer documents and is going through them - calmly and in detail it seems.

I mean there's no question the lawsuit is moving forward, I have a Pacer account and grab the pdfs when they're posted and it's all right there - 4 of the 6 claims are going ahead with 21 days to amend those that were dismissed.
 
As you correctly guessed: awesome amazing stories totally not matching any streams with nothing to back them up doesnt do it for me. Especially when you are willing to spend a lot of time typing about it rather than click the five buttons needed to record it and upload it to youtube. Sorry. It is so easy to just show us if it is really true, you cant expect people to take your word for it given how it doesnt match the plethora of counter evidence. The obvious conclusion is: probably dressed up a lot.

Tl;dr while some here are unreasonably negative, you seem unreasonably positive.

I'd say it is plausible. When everything goes mostly right, that is what Jump Town is like. But what is described would take hours.
 
The warlord has literally just posted what I take to be a rebuttal video to that youtube lawyer video.

https://youtu.be/lk_XO6aG1zk

He's pulled up the Pacer documents and is going through them - calmly and in detail it seems.

I mean there's no question the lawsuit is moving forward, I have a Pacer account and grab the pdfs when they're posted and it's all right there - 4 of the 6 claims are going ahead with 21 days to amend those that were dismissed.

A bit long winded and rambling...but interesting.
 
Sleut is right though...I can rave positive about an average night of gameplay too...but that would be completely unrealistic since a great majority of my time is spent frustrated by bugs that lose me any sense of progression...at all. I'm not into the space commando raids on Jumptown every 5 minutes...pointless venture since credits are completely transitory and all this FPS combat stuff is heading to a part of gameplay I merely tolerate rather than enjoy.

The sheer amount of times I've started with 5 aUEC to my name after a bug or game client crash has left me with no ship and no cargo or credits is becoming the story of my online time in SC...yes, I've shared in some of the experiences you have...but I can't wax all lyrical about a small part of gameplay when the majority of it has me hitting my head off the keyboard more often than not.

Even when 3.4 drops, youre still gonna have most of the same issues. Maybe box missions will work. You'll get your Freelancer Max. And the new building in Loreville, but it seemed like you were avoiding Loreville.

Are you not getting the option to recover on most of your crashes?

The only reason I've been jumping in lately is for Jump Town shenanigans.
 
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Well, it would not be the first game to run into such issues when players bunch up in a small area.

Can you name another game that explicitly sold in-game items for hundreds or even thousands of dollars for the express purpose of being used in high-population count player battles, yet was fundamentally impossible to do so?
 
Query: When you say you downgraded to your undersuits, does that mean you dumped your armour? Because the second part implies that you put it back on when you got close. Are you able to magic clothing into existence in Star Citizen?

Yes, you magically have all your character equipment in a global inventory. So you can swap out armor and guns out of thin air.

That is on the roadmap to change "soon". Although I'd rather it stayed.....
 
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