game looks beige and this is a major disapointement

Last night i thought that stations, when approaching them, now looked funny, like small models rather than massive structures. Some DoF thing?
Looked better when i got very near to the slot.
 
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Last night thought that stations, when approaching them, now looked funny, like small models rather than massive structures. Some fov thing?
Looked better when i got very near to the slot.

I find objects 'pop' more now than before i.e. they convey more of a presence (not sure how best to describe it). FOV can have the above effect, have you changed your setting? I believe the higher the FOV the less imposing objects look (fwiw I use the maximum standard setting - played around with custom settings but didn't like the fisheye lens effect).
 
I find objects 'pop' more now than before i.e. they convey more of a presence (not sure how best to describe it). FOV can have the above effect, have you changed your setting? I believe the higher the FOV the less imposing objects look (fwiw I use the maximum standard setting - played around with custom settings but didn't like the fisheye lens effect).

Setting’s the same i think but will doublecheck. Though, i had meant to say depth of field, DoF! Edited my previouspost now. Thanks though will check
 
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Washed out in some cases and oversaturated in others, but never beige. There's edge cases that needs some attention, but overall I've liked the lighting changes.
 
umm... you just broke logic there bud... A screen pic isnt effected by your monitor. What you see is what the gpu values are and the pixels of the monitor doesnt have any impact on the digital coloration values. These screenshots are proof and saying it isnt this bad means you havent been ingame. This is just crazy color change and everyone I asked today in-game has the exact same opinion. I am a really old player for elite and all my old friends dislike this washed out look...

my monitors are also fine, I have tripple setup so I have plenty of budget when it comes to monitor quality. Monitors have nothing to do with it.

Uh no that's not how this works.

Sure you took screenshots from your PC. Sure they're going to look like they do - on your monitor(s).

But they will look different on other people's monitors, which - unless they are the exact same monitors as yours, and have the exact same settings, and have the exact same graphics card(s) with the exact same settings - are guaranteed to look different from how you perceive them!

Factors involved :

Monitor model.
Monitor brightness setting.
Monitor contrast setting.

Graphics card.
Graphics settings.

Game graphics settings.

(also, for example, I run Redshift on my linux system, which alters the monitor colours according to time of day)

Probably a whole host of other factors I can't think of right now.

Might not seem much, but mix all those together and your screenshots above will look different when viewed on other systems and monitors of other people.
 
It's been mentioned above already but what's worth checking is:

1) set gfx card to full range RGB, especially if you connect to a monitor via HDMI cable as that tends to default to limited range, making colours look washed out. Full range yields solid blacks and more vibrant colours.

2) reduce gamma. I didn't do so during the beta and found the graphics a bit too bright in stations, but dropping it one or two notches makes a big difference (mine is around 30-40% now iirc).

3) reduce bloom setting. Especially noticeable in those 'white' palm tree stations like the ones you find in Sol, or Celaeno.

2) & 3) are in game settins, but where do I set RGB range?
 
Uh no that's not how this works.

Sure you took screenshots from your PC. Sure they're going to look like they do - on your monitor(s).

But they will look different on other people's monitors, which - unless they are the exact same monitors as yours, and have the exact same settings, and have the exact same graphics card(s) with the exact same settings - are guaranteed to look different from how you perceive them!

Factors involved :

Monitor model.
Monitor brightness setting.
Monitor contrast setting.

Graphics card.
Graphics settings.

Game graphics settings.

(also, for example, I run Redshift on my linux system, which alters the monitor colours according to time of day)

Probably a whole host of other factors I can't think of right now.

Might not seem much, but mix all those together and your screenshots above will look different when viewed on other systems and monitors of other people.

You forgot the most important factor - individual user preference and subjective like/dislike.

I'm fine with the camp that says the new lighting is great. Same for the camp that says too washed out (which I'm in).

The issue is when idiots on both sides insist there can't exist both equally valid impressions - it doesn't have to be looks great and anyone saying washed out is just uneducated how to reset their gamma, RGB, etc., or vice versa. It can totally be FD dialed the lighting such that a significant group now finds it less appealing.

If FD thinks the middle of the bell curve is skewed to far to either end, then they'll think they need to adjust. If they think there are equal groups who like, dislike, and don't care - then they'll just shrug and think can't please everybody because even getting a large group like us to ~1/3 liking, 1/3 dislike, and 1/3 doesn't care is a balance achievement to them.

So the real issue, the rot that is just eating away at some people's craw, is they fear people speaking up will cause FD to realize there IS a significant group that dislikes the new lighting balance. Hence all the venom back and forth as people on BOTH camps try to insist the other side must be wrong, not doing settings correctly, etc. It's the same eternal forum war it's always been - some people can't stand that others not only disagree, but won't admit that they are 'wrong' by that person's standards.
 
Some people having problems, some folk not. Sounds more than a matter of taste to me, more like hardware problems/issues. What GPU's you all running I wonder?

Personally it looks great, AMD card here.
 
It might have been covered already so apologies if I'm repeating but I think it makes such a positive difference it needs to be said again and it's something easily missed.

If your connection to your monitor is via HDMI cable go into your monitor settings on your PC (Nvidia control panel, might be NVidia only), go to display/change resolution. Then scroll down to Output Dynamic Range, if this is set to Limited change it to Full. This can be reset back to Limited if you do a clean driver update so remember to change it back to Full.

If you use a DVI cable connection it seems that the Dynamic Range setting is in the Adjust Video Colour Settings section, select "with the Nvidia settings" and choose Full.
 
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Thanks fdev for making the whole game Beige again and not just the planets... the starport interiors, the ships themselves, EVERYTHING! EVEN THE GAL MAP!

I seriously don't know why I would want this game to be so colourless and this should be an option. Even if theres new features I honestly prefer the way the game looked before the update no matter what. And the god damn lens flare, how can I turn it off without disabling everything else?!? Cmon... just put a color staturation option because when everything looks like I have the stupid windows orange filter on it kinda sucks and ruins the whole game honestly.





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thats just one example but yeah I am not going to spend 3 hours documenting stuff, I litterally don't have the time for it and the changes right there are REALLY drastic.


If many people agree on this then no doubt FDev will have a look at this and tweak it again.
This is a game in the middle of development after all.
 
You forgot the most important factor - individual user preference and subjective like/dislike.

I'm fine with the camp that says the new lighting is great. Same for the camp that says too washed out (which I'm in).

The issue is when idiots on both sides insist there can't exist both equally valid impressions - it doesn't have to be looks great and anyone saying washed out is just uneducated how to reset their gamma, RGB, etc., or vice versa. It can totally be FD dialed the lighting such that a significant group now finds it less appealing.

If FD thinks the middle of the bell curve is skewed to far to either end, then they'll think they need to adjust. If they think there are equal groups who like, dislike, and don't care - then they'll just shrug and think can't please everybody because even getting a large group like us to ~1/3 liking, 1/3 dislike, and 1/3 doesn't care is a balance achievement to them.

So the real issue, the rot that is just eating away at some people's craw, is they fear people speaking up will cause FD to realize there IS a significant group that dislikes the new lighting balance. Hence all the venom back and forth as people on BOTH camps try to insist the other side must be wrong, not doing settings correctly, etc. It's the same eternal forum war it's always been - some people can't stand that others not only disagree, but won't admit that they are 'wrong' by that person's standards.

I think then the best you can do is politely ask FDEV to add more control over the game's graphical settings - precisely because it's down to not only technical settings like monitor make/configuration, graphics card make+model/configuration, but the very subjective likes and dislikes of each individual player.

Frontier can only try to accomodate what they believe to be the middle of the bell curve - there are lots of things they do that folks at either end like or don't like. The graphical stuff is yet another one of those Marmite situations.

For the record, I'm pretty much in the part of the bell curve which likes the graphical changes and has no problem with them - just my own subjective preference :)
 

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2) & 3) are in game settins, but where do I set RGB range?

I'm on a gaming laptop with dual GPU (intel & Nvidia GTX960m) set up. I found the setting in the Intel graphics settings, not the Nvidia Control Panel.

Edit: Almost bought a new monitor because of this, since the laptop screen looked much better (deeper blacks, more vibrant colours). Thanks to someone posting on this forum I saved a few hundred bucks:)
 
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If many people agree on this then no doubt FDev will have a look at this and tweak it again.
This is a game in the middle of development after all.

No but clearly, he got a calibration problem to say that everything is beige.
 

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2) & 3) are in game settins, but where do I set RGB range?

Go to the Nvidia Control Panel (Right-Click on your Desktop)

In the left column, scroll down to 'Change Resolution' under 'Display'

Under the heading: 'Apply the following settings', Check the 'Use Nvidia settings' option.

In the 'Output Dynamic Range' Box, select 'Full'

This setting also improves watching videos.

[EDIT] I have found that after updating Nvidia drivers, the Dynamic Range gets reset to 'Limited', so be prepared to change it in that event.

I don't know about AMD cards.
 
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umm... you just broke logic there bud... A screen pic isnt effected by your monitor. What you see is what the gpu values are and the pixels of the monitor doesnt have any impact on the digital coloration values. These screenshots are proof and saying it isnt this bad means you havent been ingame. This is just crazy color change and everyone I asked today in-game has the exact same opinion. I am a really old player for elite and all my old friends dislike this washed out look...

my monitors are also fine, I have tripple setup so I have plenty of budget when it comes to monitor quality. Monitors have nothing to do with it.

The only moment where i have the feeling of washed out colors is the HUD when arriving at a star. It gets lit in the same color than the star even when it shouldn't everything else looks fine for me atm.

Maybe i'm using the previous monitor today to get a more comparable impression to former lights.
 
On XBox, I managed to up the saturation and contrast, and reduce the gamma a bit on my DLP projector and save a profile exclusively for when playing ED, though it's a clumsy workaround having to manually switch it for one game, and doesn't do anything to turn off the fog machines that stations seem to have been fitted with, or fix sunlight turning the milky way brown.

Can anyone on XBox with an X chip in as to whether it looks better with the X's HDR support?
 
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I will admit, something seems amiss with the color gradient. Even in the ship my left/right UI panels sometimes seem washed out a bit, flat and pastel looking, even inside the hangar of a station.

I didn't notice anything like this during the beta either.

Time to change your avatar back :D
 
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