It's not a "fix" if it makes different HUD brightness settings redundant. It's a workaround at best, for lighting efefcts that should have never been implemented this way.
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So who precisely of you fine folks had the vision of "improving" the graphics after 4 years?
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I think that the various contributions to this thread have already established that, one way or the other.
If your HUD visibility increases when you change an ingame setting, then it's the definition of a fix. Interface Brightness is just another setting to help you tweak the brightness of the galaxy vs the HUD. But you can't really complain it's hard to read the HUD when the only setting you have available to improve readability is set for crap readability.
So after reading most of the thread, I've come to the conclusion that half of you live in your moms basement and haven't witnessed how light appears in quite some time. A quarter are moaning about the cockpit being influenced by surrounding light. The other quarter are moaning about the volumetric fog that is now all throughout the galaxy. The lighting system itself is more than fine. These other things are... personal... preferences. What a concept.
It's not easily fixable with reshade. Since the tinting depends on the star colour, you would need a preset for every single colour and intensity I guess, and that would never work.
Concerning this issue, the new lighting/colour grading works pretty much like a third party shading tool. It seems to apply a colour filter to the whole picture on the screen without distincting between close objects, light sources and far away obects.
Not only that, the tinting is dynamic, changing with the distance form the star, that's not something reshade can compensate.
It looks like there are at least two dynamic filters applied, one when very close to the star, that tints the color to that of the star, and one when far from the main star, that reduces the brightness of the galaxy background, which I'm not certain yet what it is trying to achieve, maybe helping to make the dark sites of the planets darker.
You can see that better when using the XML changes for the blue galaxy in GraphicsConfiguration.xml, since the standard galaxy is rather dark.
Tinting close to the main star (Y-type brown dwarf):
Intermediate distance to the same star:
Far from the main star:
The middle picture is the closest how it looked in 3.2
Here are the settings for the bluish milkyway:
<High>
<LocalisationName>$QUALITY_HIGH;</LocalisationName>
<NebulasCount>30</NebulasCount>
<NebulasInBackgroundCount>40</NebulasInBackgroundCount>
<LowResNebulasCount>16</LowResNebulasCount>
<HighResNebulasCount>1</HighResNebulasCount>
<LowResNebulaDimensions>64</LowResNebulaDimensions>
<HighResNebulaDimensions>256</HighResNebulaDimensions>
<LowResSamplesCount>35</LowResSamplesCount>
<HighResSamplesCount>138</HighResSamplesCount>
<MilkyWayInstancesCount>16000</MilkyWayInstancesCount>
<LocalDustBrightness>-0.12</LocalDustBrightness>
<MilkywayInstancesBrightness>-0.9</MilkywayInstancesBrightness>
<MilkywayInstancesSize>5.0</MilkywayInstancesSize>
<MilkyWayInstancesOffscreenRTEnabled>false</MilkyWayInstancesOffscreenRTEnabled>
<StarInstanceCount>4000</StarInstanceCount>
</High>
<LocalisationName>$QUALITY_HIGH;</LocalisationName>
<NebulasCount>30</NebulasCount>
<NebulasInBackgroundCount>40</NebulasInBackgroundCount>
<LowResNebulasCount>16</LowResNebulasCount>
<HighResNebulasCount>1</HighResNebulasCount>
<LowResNebulaDimensions>64</LowResNebulaDimensions>
<HighResNebulaDimensions>256</HighResNebulaDimensions>
<LowResSamplesCount>35</LowResSamplesCount>
<HighResSamplesCount>138</HighResSamplesCount>
<MilkyWayInstancesCount>16000</MilkyWayInstancesCount>
<LocalDustBrightness>-0.12</LocalDustBrightness>
<MilkywayInstancesBrightness>-0.9</MilkywayInstancesBrightness>
<MilkywayInstancesSize>5.0</MilkywayInstancesSize>
<MilkyWayInstancesOffscreenRTEnabled>false</MilkyWayInstancesOffscreenRTEnabled>
<StarInstanceCount>4000</StarInstanceCount>
</High>
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I'll refer you to my screens here - all three were taken with exactly the same graphical settings:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/463835-So-who-precisely-of-you-fine-folks-had-the-vision-of-quot-improving-quot-the-graphics-after-4-years?p=7251276&viewfull=1#post7251276
It's not an issue of legibility for me personally, I just don't like it very much.
Reading comprehension isn't your forte, is it? Again, not a fix - at most a workaround, and a bad one at that.
Looking at the steam reviews since this launch, I don't see 92% positive.
So your argument is that everyone is dumb and doesn't understand of lighting works because the system is fine. The same system that tints the skybox the color of the local star.
I think i've got bad news for you regarding your understanding of basic physics.
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Only one useful thing about fog in space, it will help noobs not crash into rocks, other than that it's laughable. The lens flare is interesting though can be somewhat annoying.
Oh boy, please explain to us your optics differential equations for the light refraction in a vacuum when close to a neutron star.
Newsflash: It's a game, it's always been a game - not a physics simulator akin to the Matrix. It seems most people except a few grumpy forumdads actually love the lighting and coloring changes.
At the time he posted that comment the "recent reviews" (last 30 days) metric on steam listed 92% positive reviews. I looked at this myself at the time to check it.
Currently, the "recent reviews" metric has gone to 87% positive.
I think the presumption is that the majority of Steam users who have reviewed the game, or edited their review, in the past 30 days have probably played the new mechanics either in beta or release and are enjoying it.
I've been pretty clear about what I dislike, and that's the color grading filters and how they influence the entire image in unnatural ways. I more or less recreated the the effect in photoshop on a flat image (not that I needed to - as videographer I recognised it immediately). It has nothing to do with lighting per se, or how natural light behaves:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...fter-4-years?p=7254252&viewfull=1#post7254252
True, which is why the option of or adjusting/disabling such things would keep everyone happy.
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I've been pretty clear about what I dislike, and that's the color grading filters and how they influence the entire image in unnatural ways. I more or less recreated the the effect in photoshop on a flat image (not that I needed to - as videographer I recognised it immediately). It has nothing to do with lighting per se, or how natural light behaves:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...fter-4-years?p=7254252&viewfull=1#post7254252
True, which is way the option of or adjusting/disabling such things would keep everyone happy.
Everyone except the FDEV developers and artists that would need to maintain in parallel a much more diverse gamut of possible lighting / shading combinations than already exist, and develop new art that looks good in all of them. Perfect use of dev time.
Mate, I'm just talking about the color grading filters, not the underlying lighting engine. It's not so profound a difference as to require forking the development in that way.
You don't need differential equations to know that local stars won't influence the color of background stars or stellar objects that - for all intents - are purely emissive.
Given how the game prides itself on generating star systems from first principles, accuratly depicts real life space probes and solar system objects, pays hommage to 2001: A Space Odyssey and prominent scientist i find your train of thought a bit hard to follow, especially in light of the glaring shortcomings brought up in this thread and elsewhere.
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I wouldn't like my cockpit looking like that but I haven't been to that star or one like it since 3.3 released. The cockpit glass is "supposedly" adaptive so the amount of light and color shading inside the cockpit shouldn't be that badly altered. I'll see if I can find a similar system and upload an image. FDev needs to fix this, even though, as far as I can see, my cockpit view isn't impacted as badly as some.
No one suggested or demanded this change. The old lighting system wasn't broken. Nothing needed to be "fixed". So much for "perfect use of dev time".
What happened here was described pretty aptly already by Kaltern:
Yes, they could add a button. A big red one to"switch off" an entire graphical overhaul.
Im sure that would be super simple.
(said no one ever)
It's super easy. Especially since changing artistic direction is so simple, not political at all (wrt internal company politics) and involves no risk or effort (and this gfx overhaul was a change in their original artistic choice of a more "washed out" look for a more vibrant higher-saturation look). /s
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