Crime and punishment
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It looks like you have a 650cr bounty at Sirius Corporation. I'm guessing you are in one of their stations. If you're in their jurisdiction, you can't pay off your bounty, you can only "turn yourself in".
If you travel to a system OUTSIDE of their jurisdiction (preferably an anarchy system), and you can find a station with Interstellar Factors, you will be able to have your bounty removed. Note that within the context of The lore of this fictional gameworld, you are not "paying off" your own bounty, you are bribing a shady character to manipulate the records and make your bounty "go away." This is why you can't do this at the law-abiding jurisdiction where you are WANTED. You *can* pay off a fine at such a location, because a fine is not a jail/death sentence.
If you travel to a system OUTSIDE of their jurisdiction (preferably an anarchy system), and you can find a station with Interstellar Factors, you will be able to have your bounty removed. Note that within the context of The lore of this fictional gameworld, you are not "paying off" your own bounty, you are bribing a shady character to manipulate the records and make your bounty "go away." This is why you can't do this at the law-abiding jurisdiction where you are WANTED. You *can* pay off a fine at such a location, because a fine is not a jail/death sentence.
Im in their station. Ok intersteller factors, that was my question thankyou.
Consequence.
Whether that has been properly achieved is a different angle on the topic, but its basic intent was consequence for actions.
It's probably one of the next things that needs major revision to A) be less arcane, and B) provide a better sense of risk and consequence.
What don't you understand? This is gameplay. You did something somewhere which was against the law in that particular region so there's a bounty on your head, and now you have a problem to figure out. What do you think SHOULD happen, nothing?
I think its disgusting that it operates this way.
Just popped into the police station to ask for advice. They noted I had a parking ticket that I had not paid yet. I said OK, I'll pay it now. They said thanks and sent me to prison in another state. Seems legit. Upon reflection and based on transport prices in ED. It costs them multiples of your fine to transport us to the prison. So, they lose credits on the deal. Like many things in ED, it makes no logical sense at all and is bad for the majority of players. Sucks for Power Play also.
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You cannot pay this off an intersteller factors. At least not in a different ship. But wouldnt you know the only one anywhere near is a med pad. The large pad is same place as the prison. Isnt that an amazing coincidence? So boring
They are deliberately screwing with the players. This game feels like playing rust sometimes and that is not a compliment.
They are deliberately screwing with the players. This game feels like playing rust sometimes and that is not a compliment.
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You mean: I was shooting bad guys at a Res site, some NPC flew into the laser beam and now it's my fault.
Happened to me way too many times. There you are, minding your own business, ridding the place of bad people, someone rocks up and decides not to care where to fly and reports you because your pimped superbeam has stripped their shields in 2 seconds.
I think C&P should kick in when they are starting to take hull damage, not for some shield damage.
Crimes are attached to ships.
Every surface outpost has a large pad and almost every low sec one has interstellar factors.
So does insurance, every time they pay for a ship.
Credits are meaningless so if they were the only component of C&P, there would be no C&P.]
If you're that reckless with your shots, you're a 'bad guy' too.
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Ah well there you go now I know you don't understand what you're talking about. If it's an unpaid parking ticket that's going to be a fine not a bounty, and you'll never go to jail for an unpaid fine. And yes, you can pay a fine at the police station where the fine is issued.
If it's a bounty, that means there's a price on your head and even if it's just 650cr, that's how much the police are willing to pay ANYONE to kill you. At that point it's not about how much you *OWE*, it's about how much your head is WORTH. The police aren't trying to turn a profit at that point: they are offering to pay other people to bring you down.
You fly to some lawless backwater and go to Interstellar Factors, you can pay someone to remove the bounty on your head. But you're still not "paying off your own bounty". You're giving someone the reward they WOULD have earned for killing you, plus some extra hush money, and they are manipulating records to make it look like you've been killed/apprehended/whatever, and wiped your status from the records. They Are Not The Police Station.
I dont want to give you too hard a time time because it really is mostly Frontier's fault you're so confused. There is a LOT they could do with iconography, flavor texts, in-game explanations, station service messages, NPC dialogue, and now the Codex, to explain all of this and make it much much clearer.
For starters they should use different side-Nav-panel icons for locations where you are wanted vs places where you merely owe a fine. They should reserve "anonymous protocols" graphics and iconography exclusively for stations where you are wanted, while stations where you owe a fine should operate and appear as normal but with NPCs displaying a message alongside the lines of "I cannot offer you service until you have paid your outstanding fines". And finally there should be a little bit of dressing up of the menu graphics and flavor text in the "lawful" (commodities, authorities, etc) vs "shady" sections of station services (black market, Interstellar Factors), to visually differentiate them from one another rather than making it all seem like part of one big restaurant menu.
But overall the system itself is perfectly logical and internally self consistent and I'm gonna keep defending it, but boy I sure do hope Frontier works on some of the presentation issues, and fast.
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Hey, feel lucky you didn't run into a Commander with a Kill Warrant Scanner. They could've killed you for that bounty. Be more careful.
I sort of know what you mean, but also can't resist pointing out that the whole point of game dev is to figure out ways to spend players' time.Moaning asidePlayer time should not be a resource the devs seek to spend.
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