Weeks of grinding wasted by the update, left the game

OP, while I am sorry you're not having fun, the "None" reset was announced on one of the Beta livestreams. In our group, we actually wound down operations in the last week before the patch dropped once the release date was announced. We finished existing conflicts and such that were due to finish before the patch dropped, but had no new operations starting anything new.

So, I am sorry that you missed those announcements, but they were given out by FD well before the patch dropped, not after. There were some rumors going around that expansion states might be excluded because the happiness expansion didn't work, and therefore would be continuing on the old mechanic, but that was the only basis for that, The announced "reset all to None" was clear cut, so we didn't act on those rumors. It pays to pay attention to those livestreams for any information that might affect the BGS. Since there is no manual, we have to live off of crumbs like that.
 

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After 2-3 weeks of brain-numbing grinding to raise our influence to 75% for the 3rd time...

Welcome to the BGS, OP. You just learned an important lesson that many haven't figured out - the BGS was never meant to be "played", and the only way to "play" it is to bang your head against the wall in boredom and frustration until you're so sick of the game that you want to rage quit.

It's not the BGS's fault, it's the fault of many players for trying to make a game out of something that is not a game, and was never intended to be.

My advice is to let the BGS be what it is - a background simulation, nothing more. Go out and fight PvP, be a pirate, have moon buggy races, find and shoot aliens, explore galactic points of interest, mine... do whatever fun activity allows you to actually enjoy the game, rather than feeling like you're smashing your own head with a hammer every time you turn it on.
 
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It was probably the one single livestream I missed while on a 6 hour road trip and never got around to watching the recorded version. Still, they should have widely publicized something like that. And the expansion was already in the preliminary stage (I think) when they announced the release date so it was too late to stop. When did they give the firm date for the release? I just don't care to repeat the influence missions and there's nothing else in the game that interest me right now.

OP, while I am sorry you're not having fun, the "None" reset was announced on one of the Beta livestreams. In our group, we actually wound down operations in the last week before the patch dropped once the release date was announced. We finished existing conflicts and such that were due to finish before the patch dropped, but had no new operations starting anything new.

So, I am sorry that you missed those announcements, but they were given out by FD well before the patch dropped, not after. There were some rumors going around that expansion states might be excluded because the happiness expansion didn't work, and therefore would be continuing on the old mechanic, but that was the only basis for that, The announced "reset all to None" was clear cut, so we didn't act on those rumors. It pays to pay attention to those livestreams for any information that might affect the BGS. Since there is no manual, we have to live off of crumbs like that.
 
Welcome to the BGS, OP. You just learned an important lesson that many haven't figured out - the BGS was never meant to be "played", and the only way to "play" it is to bang your head against the wall in boredom and frustration until you're so sick of the game that you want to rage quit.

It's not the BGS's fault, it's the fault of many players for trying to make a game out of something that is not a game, and was never intended to be.

My advice is to let the BGS be what it is - a background simulation, nothing more. Go out and fight PvP, be a pirate, have moon buggy races, find and shoot aliens, explore galactic points of interest, mine... do whatever fun activity allows you to actually enjoy the game, rather than feeling like you're smashing your own head with a hammer every time you turn it on.

Hmm think you been doing it wrong :) hey since 1.4, that hammer has had a nice lemon wrapped aroung it.
My big problem with the BGS is not the BGS but other players!

Simon
 
Are these kind of replies necessary?

As much so as these kinds of OP's are.

If you're leaving, leave.
If you're staying, stay.

The rest of us aren't concerned with what you're doing, any more than we we're concerned with what you're having for breakfast or whatever other social media status updates you post. (Not a personal "you", but a general, blanket "you".)

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As much so as these kinds of OP's are.

If you're leaving, leave.
If you're staying, stay.

The rest of us aren't concerned with what you're doing, any more than we we're concerned with what you're having for breakfast or whatever other social media status updates you post. (Not a personal "you", but a general, blanket "you".)

I'm having chili for dinner.
 
Welcome to the BGS, OP. You just learned an important lesson that many haven't figured out - the BGS was never meant to be "played", and the only way to "play" it is to bang your head against the wall in boredom and frustration until you're so sick of the game that you want to rage quit.

It's not the BGS's fault, it's the fault of many players for trying to make a game out of something that is not a game, and was never intended to be.

My advice is to let the BGS be what it is - a background simulation, nothing more. Go out and fight PvP, be a pirate, have moon buggy races, find and shoot aliens, explore galactic points of interest, mine... do whatever fun activity allows you to actually enjoy the game, rather than feeling like you're smashing your own head with a hammer every time you turn it on.

Wise words quoted for truth.
 
My player faction has been working hard to expand to a new home system. We had to expand to a pair of smaller systems first.

We started our final expansion from our home system that has a population of 4.8B and is challenging to get to 75%. We have a small number of active players, usually no more than 3-5 and I spent more time grinding than the rest combined because I'm retired and have lots of playtime.

After 2-3 weeks of brain-numbing grinding to raise our influence to 75% for the 3rd time, we succeeded. Our final expansion went from pending to active on Dec. 7th. We were within 2-3 days of expanding to our new home system. Then the update hit on the 11th. There was NO WARNING given, at least not an obvious one that all progress was going to be wiped out. First I heard that all progress was to be reset was a forum post by a Comm. Mod. several days after the update. Weeks of work wiped out. I would have posted this sooner but I've been going back and forth with Support seeing if there was any way to fix this. There's not.

I'm also not happy that the week I spent getting my name as "First Discovered By" on 11 Earth Like Worlds is erased if I understand correctly. But that wasn't a "leave the game issue", just a nuisance. I could always go back to those worlds, I made records of their locations.

But having weeks of doing boring missions erased is just too much frustration. I don't know if this was planned or a mistake, if planned they should have done a better job of advertising it. I was even going to have them close my account despite having 4.4B credits and almost all the ships in the game but my friends in my faction talked me out of that. But I don't think I'll be returning this time. I grew bored with the game in late 2017/early 2018 and left until this past July. The expansion was mostly my work, something to give me a goal. No way was I going to repeat those weeks of grinding influence missions.

I'm off doing other games now, and may consider a newly released space game very similar to ED. I'm curious if other player factions got shafted like mine did or if our case was isolated.

AirBear

If you do anything brain numbing in a game, you are doing it wrong in the first place. Games are for having fun in the end.
Also, somebody always loses when there are changes to complex systems in the game, and this time it's you, next time it will be somebody else. It's all for the greater good...
 
As much so as these kinds of OP's are.

If you're leaving, leave.
If you're staying, stay.

The rest of us aren't concerned with what you're doing, any more than we we're concerned with what you're having for breakfast or whatever other social media status updates you post. (Not a personal "you", but a general, blanket "you".)


This is precisely why I deleted my FaceBook account some years ago. I got fed up with breakfast posts. Or you’d get the attention seekers who would post something like this on their timeline:

I’m on my way to the hospital.

Then they’d leave it at that, hoping that people would show concern for them and pay them loads of attention. Then after a few hours they’d post something like:

Oh, I am okay, I meant I am on my way to work. I am a cleaner at the local hospital.

Just attention seeking really. :D
 
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FD can do things in an annoying way OP.

Iv not touched the BGS since the early Jaques Station days. I spent 6 months with others trying to get things online again, many, many trips back to the bubble & back to Jaques, hauling stuff, doing CG's that eventually came. Waiting for the Thursday tick over to see what, if anything, got switched on at the Station.

Only to be ignored by Frontier, as an individual pilot, for a group popularity contest when the expansion time came......I won't commit to BGS now, learned my lesson & only play for myself & what I want to do.

Doesn't stop it being a good game though. Frontier seem to like, nay enjoy, disappointing sections of it's community, remember the Gnosis debacle!

Just take it on the chin, let your anger go away, start again.

I recently purchased a 2nd account (for my grandkids to play, without ruining my own 53+ wks gametime account). I'm enjoying getting that account going for them, so they have money to 'crash their ships'.

I bought X4, day b4 launch, I'd not played the franchise since Terran Conflict. I still think that's a good game, buggy as hell & not as good as ED & the many,many,many,many CTD's make it very difficult to play at times.
BTW, I've not played X4 at all since ED's Chapter 4 went live!
 
I have played the X2 and X3 games, but not puirchased or played X4. I wish they’d release it on XB1X :(
 
I'm having chili for dinner.

I had leftover Chinese last night and this morning I just had bacon and eggs.

I have a ham in the slow cooker for a party tonight. It has been rubbed with sugar and chilli powder then covered in maple syrup and a smidge of pineapple juice.

Edit: On topic: OP. I am sorry for your lost time. Don't try to grind the BGS of hi pop hi traffic systems.
 
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I had leftover Chinese last night and this morning I just had bacon and eggs.

I have a ham in the slow cooker for a party tonight. It has been rubbed with sugar and chilli powder then covered in maple syrup and a smidge of pineapple juice.

Edit: On topic: OP. I am sorry for your lost time. Don't try to grind the BGS of hi pop hi traffic systems.

So no salt from the Forum then?
 
I maintain an NPC faction alone in what was a relatively quiet region on the bubble. I've left it to it's own devices & moved to another region about 100ly away. Based on the lack of mapped bodies there it's not a system anyone cares much about so I'm doing as little harm to anyone elses factions as possible.

Once this all settles down I'll go back & pick up the pieces. In the mean time there's plenty of other stuff to do & a new region of space to learn about ;)

Good luck with whatever you choose to do. There's no subscription model so you can come back any time. Save your bindings if you uninstall.
 

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I had leftover Chinese last night and this morning I just had bacon and eggs.

I have a ham in the slow cooker for a party tonight. It has been rubbed with sugar and chilli powder then covered in maple syrup and a smidge of pineapple juice.

Edit: On topic: OP. I am sorry for your lost time. Don't try to grind the BGS of hi pop hi traffic systems.

As my hispanic grandmother would say - "Sounds jomy"
 
So if some random BGS group had rolled into your system and caused all this chaos before the update, would you still have quit because you had to eat some setbacks?
 
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