With the old ADS you gain a complete system map, including the types of planet - with a layer of obfuscation, but the pictures of each kind of planet were generally easy to identify, ie:
the FSS, watching paint dry....
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With the old ADS you gain a complete system map, including the types of planet - with a layer of obfuscation, but the pictures of each kind of planet were generally easy to identify, ie:
I like blobgame better than button. Button didn't interest me, blobs do. Pure preference afaict. Blobgame itself could be tightened up and such, but first iteration is first iteration. I don't find it complicated, just personally engaging. I can see how that's not everybody.
From what I can see, it looks like the opponents of blobgame lost a gameplay style and are more bothered by its loss rather than the addition of blobgame (unlike Numining which kept its oldschool methods and just added on).
IDK how to get preblob back and keep blobgame, but that sounds like an FD problem. I can only really approach it from a conceptual POV to keep out of the main swirl of the crapstorm. Mostly I want more spaceshippy things do do in my spaceship game. For me blobgame works but for others much less so.
I'm thinking though; if there were a larger and wider set of things to find in the first place (in terms of both POI-stuff and pure data), the arguments about the tools and methods to find them might be a bit less acerbic. Changing the colour of the bucket doesn't add to its contents any, so to speak.
Not sure what I said about Engineering invalidates anything I said about the Exploration mechanics, but ok [haha]
The ADS is not instant. It took a few seconds to honk while the player had to keep a button pressed. That requires basic skill of being able to press a button for some time and to stop pressing after a progress bar was filled.
Now the zoom to detail surface scan part of the FSS, that's instant (-gratification). Press the button and instantly the selected object is detail surface scanned. Press button and without time delay the result is shown. That's instant.
In your view. I disagree. Is that all you wanted to say?
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Im hoping my threats to not buy any more expansions or DLC to do that tbh.
Not sure. Is that all you wanted to say, too?
I'm sure FDEV is dispatching multiple dev teams to start working on new mechanics ASAP after you posted that [haha]
Have you not been reading the thread? It seems you have no point to make, so I'd like to clarify what your stance is. I could repeat my point if you like, in case you misunderstand or missed it. Perhaps I missed yours.
I thought they only had two people working on this?
Sorry, I'll go back and re-read all 93 pages of people crying about the oblivion of instant-gratification-slot-machines-in-between-jumping right now [haha]
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Thanks, I'd appreciate any useful feedback.
No problem. You will have the first draft of my thesis on your desk next Monday [haha]
Keep it going guys! Our hatred of the FSS is almost to 100 glorious pages!
But in all seriousness now that I've bene forced to use it and am now 60% towards Elite rank exploration, I gotta say... I still really really hate the thing. It's clunky, it's unfun, staring at blobs sucks... It's just ... boring and trash... Old way was definitely better.
I do like the probes though. Probes make sense to scan something up close and find interesting things potentially... the FSS can burn though, chuck it into a neutron jet cone for all I care.
But in all seriousness now that I've bene forced to use it and am now 60% towards Elite rank exploration, I gotta say... I still really really hate the thing. It's clunky, it's unfun, staring at blobs sucks... It's just ... boring and trash... Old way was definitely better.
I do like the probes though. Probes make sense to scan something up close and find interesting things potentially... the FSS can burn though, chuck it into a neutron jet cone for all I care.
There is however a difference between the ceiling of the bubble and the ceiling of Beagle Point, same goes for the skybox and route plotting plus extremely heavy stars (O-type, supergiants and wolf-rayyets) are much more common close to the core than the rest of the galaxy. The fact that you only addressed one of the dozens of examples Ziggy listed shows you haven't gone too far or you are being willfully ignorant.
Wrong, I use the space-bar to hyperjump.
You can't talk about instant gratification without talking about the time it takes to scan a system now.
LOL, the slot machine is right there, so is the exploration and the instant gratification (although the instant was transfered from the honk to the detailed scan).
LOL, do you think tunning the radio is "work"?
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Wow, I come back to see all this ridiculous FUD about RNG.
Since when is fog-of-war RNG? Uncertainty and RNG are two completely different things. Do you seriously not know the difference? <face-palm>
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