[FDEV Please Comment exploit or feature?] Multiple fragments using Multiple abrasion blasters

[Ian Skippy]

I'd argue the exact opposite. It's just a matter of being able to define "what really counts". Knowing the difference between fantasy and reality is a key component of that determination, I'd say.

You appear to be arguing that video games have a deleterious impact on morality.

No, I am not arguing that. I am arguing that online gaming has shown that social behavior really improves a lot when people run the risk of getting punched in the face. People are much more likely to cheat/exploit in a multiplayer game when they are anonymous and safe in their basement than when they play a multiplayer game in a pub.

 

[Deadlock-3000]

No, I am not arguing that. I am arguing that online gaming has shown that social behavior really improves a lot when people run the risk of getting punched in the face. People are much more likely to cheat/exploit in a multiplayer game when they are anonymous and safe in their basement than when they play a multiplayer game in a pub.

And that is a problem, or not?

 

[Tifu]

Why not file a bug report? This thread isn't going to stay up here much longer unless there's a fight and a moderator has to step in. Uh, don't do it that way btw

 

[Deadlock-3000]

Why not file a bug report? This thread isn't going to stay up here much longer unless there's a fight and a moderator has to step in. Uh, don't do it that way btw

Because I don't think the OP really wants it to be fixed. I think they just wanted to absolve themselves of the creeping suspicion that they were being naughty.

 

[znôrt]

I want to play a game yes, i would like to play it by the rules the makers intended, so yes in the imaginations of the makers.

i always liked the concept that once an artist releases a work of art, it's no longer his, but what people make of it.

I don't know if its intended or not, nor do you, that's why i asked FDEV to comment

good point, and i wouldn't be surprised if frontier tried to sell this as a new 'skill involving mechanic '. [haha]

 

[Ian Doncaster]

No Because Fdev can simply say its an exploit anytime they want

Though asking them just after they all head off for over a week's holiday between Christmas and New Year gives you more chance to "exploit the response delay" as it were, in the event that when they get back they say "no, it's obviously a bug".

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

I think it's likely a bug, but to be honest, it's actually quite a good, if unintentional, risk / reward system by itself.

Firstly, you're obviously sacrificing hardpoints to defend yourself better. That's a risk.

This then doubles/tripples/quadruples/etc your yield.
Reward.

But it's also quite difficult to land multiple shots on the same spot with some ships. Especially with the asteroid rotating.
So skill is involved.

And not to mention, with a big haul, you will attract pirates on the way to sell it. And have no means to defend yourself.

 

[Jukelo]

Why would you stop doing it even if it were "unintended"? Curious to know.

When you buy a game, one would expect that you are interested in what the developers are trying to achieve with it. There is a vision and a spirit behind every game, and if you weren't interested in that vision, that spirit, you would buy something else. Therefore it's pretty important to know whether some unintended aspects of it go against that spirit.

 

[StiTch]

A very decent and common attitude 'in real life'. In online gaming people will just look at you, confused.

Yeah, heaven forbid people enjoy challenge in a game! The cheek!

That said, seems nothing wrong with this as a mechanic if it's legit.

When you buy a game, one would expect that you are interested in what the developers are trying to achieve with it. There is a vision and a spirit behind every game, and if you weren't interested in that vision, that spirit, you would buy something else. Therefore it's pretty important to know whether some unintended aspects of it go against that spirit.

Take that attitude elsewhere plox. ED needs needs nothing but an "iWin button" or no gameplay at all.

 

[Happy Shrapnel]

Customer Support: Hey FDEV, seems we have another bug....

FDEV: Just lob it in the Queue with the rest of 'em. There's only 100 of us for Christs sake.

 

[Unknown Zombie]

Seems like an interesting mechanic to me. If it is a bug, then I think it should stay as a new feature.

It would truly set some ships apart as "better miners" than other ships because of hardpoint convergence. I think it could lead to some interesting decision making.

 

[znôrt]

Seems like an interesting mechanic to me. If it is a bug, then I think it should stay as a new feature.
It would truly set some ships apart as "better miners" than other ships because of hardpoint convergence.

this thread:

I think it could lead to some interesting decision making.

 

[Cdr Voorheez]

Why would you even ask ? Honestly, folks start making some money and someone always turns up to rain on the parade. Who cares if it's intended or not.
If it's of benefit to players then you keep your mouth shut and don't ask questions.

Triggered.

 

[Cdr Voorheez]

Oh, it's a thing. With certain ships (because of hardpoint geometry) you can get five chunks with five blasters.

*Cough* T9 *Cough*

 

[amcb10]

Because if its unintended its an exploit and i like to play fair

But until then here's my current build and how to maximise chunks from surface deposits:

You need good convergence on the hard points and need to pull back to the max range of the abrasion blasters about 950 meters.
jiggle your aim until all the reticles are locked on top of each other and appear as one then fire.
Using 4 abrasion blasters on a krait MKII works well.
Was getting Minimum 2 fragments, though usually 3 and less often 4

My Krait MKII Build (paid off with 1 mining trip collecting Low Temp Diamonds and Void Opals)

Thats an interesting build, only it has zero mining blasters or seismic charges, how did you manage this feat?

 

[Bryan K]

How terrible...*runs to fill Cutter with abrasion blasters*

 

[sollisb]

Hi can someone from Fdev confirm whether the multiple abrasion blasters producing more than 1 fragment per blaster is considered an exploit?

I'd be interested to know other peoples opinion on it also, in the end FDEV's answer trumps everything and whatever they say i will abide by.

It is quite fiddly to get 4 fragments from 1 surface deposit, though it is very possible.

I just got 44 tonnes of void Opals from 1 asteroid.

I wont post my ship build or tips on how to accomplish this easily until fdev have confirmed whether this is intended gameplay or not.

If they do say its unintended rest assured i will stop doing this, until then i'm off mining again

Mines 44T using something he thinks could be an exploit.. Didn't stop.. Collects and sells, then comes and says he won't share build and asks for clarification on a weekend.

Sounds totes'legit..

 

[pnellesen]

If it's something an intern can fix before lunch and have tested that afternoon, it'll be called a "bug". If it's something that will take a senior developer over a week to fix, it will be labelled a "feature".

Either way, me and my Asp will be roaming the various Icy rings I find, with 4 Abration blasters at the ready until such time as they no longer produce multiple chunks (I'd use 5 ABs, but... SYMMETRY!!!)

 

[Amargosa]

His ship build doesn't have a pulse wave scanner, no seismic charge launcher and no abrasion blasters. How can it mine anything at all with that setup?

 

[Kaocraft]

There's no way it's intended. If it's intended they're dumb. But at the same time I don't think they're going to be doling out punishments to anyone who takes advantage of it in the meantime.