Buggiest update ever

[Rat Catcher]

No. Im not in the uk and i suspect there's lots of politics there.

But its a real problem when you're thinking about spending on these super high priced cosmetics though. A real bug, lots of them even i can forgive. Sloppy careless work must be called immediately though. How can you "support" that kind of effort.

If you want to assume everything is above board, their qa cycles must be really busted there.

I think that some of us are 'luckier' than others when it comes to bugs, as I've not been anywhere near the bubble / doing missions/BGS since 3.3 went live there have been few things bugged in my play (apart from the odd 'pumpkin' not scanning) so have yet to be impacted by anything serious.

That isn't me saying thay don't exist...

A 'fresh' patch has been promised in early January, maybe that will address the most serious bugs But I may just keep on 'exploring' for a while yet

(yes, there is a lot of 'politics' here... (that's all I'm allowed to say on this forum ))

 

[CMDR Karrde Sun]

(yes, there is a lot of 'politics' here... (that's all I'm allowed to say on this forum ))

No i meant at frontier There was a livestream were ed lewis was glowing about his job title and the fact that crime and punishment actually got released. There has to be at least one developer who actually plays elite, and could have told them. In other environments, not saying stuff in these situations would be seen as strong negative.

 

[John Sheridan]

Seems to me you and few other white knights do get upset about videogames, you live here in every thread fighting critics.
I hope you get paid by FD otherwise it's somewhat sad and funny at the same time.
I think even devs laugh at you white knights!

Not that I post a whole lot on the forums but STIGBOB is the worst white knight I have encountered on this forum. He will defend virtually anything. I have a hard time believing he is serious sometimes.

 

[Rat Catcher]

No i meant at frontier There was a livestream were ed lewis was glowing about his job title and the fact that crime and punishment actually got released. There has to be at least one developer who actually plays elite, and could have told them. In other environments, not saying stuff in these situations would be seen as strong negative.

I'll say "don't know" about FDev internal politics I'm one of those folk who have seen a few livestreams but mainly just play the game (in whatever form it is), as it is, for fun. I even like the 'exchanges' here on the forum as part of the fun of the game, although at times it appears that 'a game' is taken just a little too seriously - but that is what makes us all individuals.

This game does seem to bring out a lot of passion from some, and makes for interesting reading, so all is good (for me).

 

[Hanerib]

Not meaning to be a doomsayer or anything... But I do wonder sometimes how many developers can actually play this game, and are enthusiastic about playing it? How many can kill a Medusa, do higher challenge combat scenarios in the training section, sweep a wing of spec ops like rusty old sidewinders? In the long run you have to have this in the house to keep integrity.

 

[CMDR Karrde Sun]

I'll say "don't know" about FDev internal politics I'm one of those folk who have seen a few livestreams but mainly just play the game (in whatever form it is), as it is, for fun. I even like the 'exchanges' here on the forum as part of the fun of the game, although at times it appears that 'a game' is taken just a little too seriously - but that is what makes us all individuals.

This game does seem to bring out a lot of passion from some, and makes for interesting reading, so all is good (for me).

Well you have the high ground my friend Was doing a double take today and think I’ve spent too much on cosmetics, enough to be sensitive to the ups and downs of the game at least. For sure it’s only a game!

 

[Stigbob]

Seems unplayable to me - see YMMV.
We have 8+ systems stuck in pending conflict or waiting for conflict to end. Not alone in this is you puruse the bug forum. As conflicts are the way to change a system, having the transition between conflict states broken stops the BGS having a purpose. All we can do is keep are influence away from any other faction to avoid losing another system to the bug. Needless to say, all off doing something else now. Doubt we will get everyone back.

Cheers
Simon

Give it a few days and see what happens the faction I'm in had a spate of it looking locked up, now there's much more variety. I think there's a lot more people baffled by change than there are genuine bugs, we don't have an FDEV BGS guide this time around which means we have to learn as we go. It'll be time to say its knackered if it seems so in a few weeks and the people saying it are not just making it all up.

 

[MottiKhan]

Not that I post a whole lot on the forums but STIGBOB is the worst white knight I have encountered on this forum. He will defend virtually anything. I have a hard time believing he is serious sometimes.

That may be so, but you can't argue against his mustache. Not the Santa one, but the original. It's exquisite.

 

[Stigbob]

Not meaning to be a doomsayer or anything... But I do wonder sometimes how many developers can actually play this game, and are enthusiastic about playing it? How many can kill a Medusa, do higher challenge combat scenarios in the training section, sweep a wing of spec ops like rusty old sidewinders? In the long run you have to have this in the house to keep integrity.

Dev bashing isn't a good look. Its also the reason hardly any of them interact with us anymore.

 

[Stigbob]

Not that I post a whole lot on the forums but STIGBOB is the worst white knight I have encountered on this forum. He will defend virtually anything. I have a hard time believing he is serious sometimes.

I genuinely enjoy the game which is the best I've ever played and disagree on general principles with pretty much everything entitled manchildren ever say think or do. So its a bit of both.

 

[Stigbob]

That may be so, but you can't argue against his mustache. Not the Santa one, but the original. It's exquisite.

My DBX is named after that moustache.

 

[B1rdy]

Dev bashing isn't a good look. Its also the reason hardly any of them interact with us anymore.

But some bugs and game mechanics truly raise that question. When something is in-your-face wrong or broken, it begs the question if anyone (in charge) ever checked it.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Dev bashing isn't a good look. Its also the reason hardly any of them interact with us anymore.

I'm more of the belief that FD as a whole is to blame, it's clear that they don't test ED that much before releasing an update but I'm confident their devs are happy to fix them.

 

[Stigbob]

But some bugs and game mechanics truly raise that question. When something is in-your-face wrong or broken, it begs the question if anyone (in charge) ever checked it.

No it doesn't. Gamebreaking bugs are incredible rare in ED, and if you do encounter one support are quick to help. Peoples poutrage at minor bugs in newly released content just smacks of inexperience or dishonesty. Obviously theres also a lot of trivialities blown way out of proportion as well.

ED stuff at launch is generally more stable than egosoft stuff 2-3 years post release for a space game comparison. The number one rule in ED is don't fly without rebuy, in any of the X games it has always been have multiple backup saves for when it inevitably breaks.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I genuinely enjoy the game which is the best I've ever played and disagree on general principles with pretty much everything entitled manchildren ever say think or do. So its a bit of both.

You can enjoy something and criticize it Stigbob.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

No it doesn't. Gamebreaking bugs are incredible rare in ED, and if you do encounter one support are quick to help. Peoples poutrage at minor bugs in newly released content just smacks of inexperience or dishonesty. Obviously theres also a lot of trivialities blown way out of proportion as well.

That SRV crash bug in consoles lasted for a whole year assuming they fixed it by now (I don't use consoles).

 

[Stigbob]

You can enjoy something and criticize it Stigbob.

Thats what I do.

That SRV crash bug in consoles lasted for a whole year assuming they fixed it by now (I don't use consoles).

You are raising an issue you've only read about. You can't fact check it and have no direct experience of it or how severe it is or how often it occurs or if its even still a thing.

You've proven my point but not much else by desperately going cross platform for a single unconvincing example.

 

[Achilles7]

Not that I post a whole lot on the forums but STIGBOB is the worst white knight I have encountered on this forum. He will defend virtually anything. I have a hard time believing he is serious sometimes.

A man of few words...but very perceptive; if only the same could be said of you know who. In fact, your post pretty much describes the perfect troll.

Don't worry though, Frontier's completely impartial moderation will stop him in his antagonistic tracks! [blah] *cough*

 

[Stigbob]

A man of few words...but very perceptive; if only the same could be said of you know who. In fact, your post pretty much describes the perfect troll.

Don't worry though, Frontier's completely impartial moderation will stop him in his antagonistic tracks! [blah] *cough*

Conspiracy time, always good for a giggle. Post your crazy wall.

 

[Achilles7]

Conspiracy time, always good for a giggle. Post your crazy wall.

Troll move 101, Bob...deflection. Nice work.

No conspiracy...just empirical evidence; look at the amount critical threads that are locked for capricious, amorphous &/or expedient grounds, often before a pattern of discourse has even been established.

Some degree of loyalty is understandable on many levels when one considers the method by which they are chosen, after all it's only natural to be slightly fawning to the boss in terms of general disposition; however, they should perhaps try harder to be beyond reproach, though imo...& I'm really talking about one in particular. By & large, the incumbent moderation team are acceptable notwithstanding the above.