High End materials gathering is quite simply worse than before...please acknowledge...

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Furnace

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Li Yong-Rui is controlling Lalande 4141, its population is 4.5 million and it's the best of all Outbreak systems atm. The economy is agriculture / colony, is that the wrong economy / power for finding Improvised Components? Maybe, who knows, because you can never know for sure unless you run around like an idiot.

No HGE's with Improvised Components. Firing up the FSS scanner only to find Convoy Dispersal Patterns and Ceremonial crap is starting to get real old. But wait - you should be able to get them as material rewards as well, correct? Well, nope, none of the missions in Lalande contain them.

Please excuse my disappointment, I'm just overly frustrated with this situation.
 

Speedcuffs

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MottiKhan said:
+1 rep. I found EZ Aquarii to be a boon to G5 gathering. My Mil SC and Core Dynamics thingies are full, along with some G4 mats that spawn with them.

There was one HGE in a nearby system with PIs, but I only got one shot at it. It was one of those that was far away and expired before I could relog. The HGE didn't reappear after several trips back, so I gave up on it.

It's odd (or is it?) that once I maxed out my Core Dynamics stuff and traded them away, the HGEs started giving out MS and Proto Heat stuff instead. It's like the game sees what you need and makes sure you get something else. Now, where did I put my tin foil hat?
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Warning: HGE signals bounce off tinfoil hats.[blah]
 

Stigbob

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Aashenfox said:
Would you mind terribly reiterating your opinion on those two specific points, I can't seem to find your response?

How funny that you would mention 1%. How many people are in agreement with you on this thread Stiggy? maybe 1%? ;)

P.S. You're not exactly shy on the poorly veiled personal attacks yourself. Can we have the personal attacks AND the discussion? Or are you only capable of one or the other? If the latter, please could we discuss the issue that you think doesn't exist for a minute and get back to attacking each other shortly? :)
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My posts still there.
 

Aashenfox

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Furnace said:
Li Yong-Rui is controlling Lalande 4141, its population is 4.5 million and it's the best of all Outbreak systems atm. The economy is agriculture / colony, is that the wrong economy / power for finding Improvised Components? Maybe, who knows, because you can never know for sure unless you run around like an idiot.

No HGE's with Improvised Components. Firing up the FSS scanner only to find Convoy Dispersal Patterns and Ceremonial crap is starting to get real old. But wait - you should be able to get them as material rewards as well, correct? Well, nope, none of the missions in Lalande contain them.

Please excuse my disappointment, I'm just overly frustrated with this situation.
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I was in Lalande 4141 yesterday as well, I can't remember if it was outbreak or civil unrest, but it was one of the two or I wouldn't have been there. :) In outbreak you'd expect to see pharma isos, and in Civil Unrest, improvised components.
 

Amargosa

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On the bright side, the predictable Imp Shielding spawns enabled me to get my Exquisite Focusing Crystals capped at 100, which I couldn't get otherwise.
 

cmdrrdmc

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Furnace said:
Li Yong-Rui is controlling Lalande 4141, its population is 4.5 million and it's the best of all Outbreak systems atm. The economy is agriculture / colony, is that the wrong economy / power for finding Improvised Components? Maybe, who knows, because you can never know for sure unless you run around like an idiot.

No HGE's with Improvised Components. Firing up the FSS scanner only to find Convoy Dispersal Patterns and Ceremonial crap is starting to get real old. But wait - you should be able to get them as material rewards as well, correct? Well, nope, none of the missions in Lalande contain them.

Please excuse my disappointment, I'm just overly frustrated with this situation.
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Here's the funny thing. It seems like now, the state of the faction the HGE belongs to determines the drop rather than the state of the controlling faction. There's only one faction in Lalande 4141 right now that is in Outbreak, so the chance of an HGE belonging to that one is low. I was in BD+47 2112 earlier today, and noticed that 3 (iirc) factions were in Outbreak, but not the controlling faction, so it won't show up in EDDB if you search for Outbreak. But theoretically, that should be a better system to look in since more of the factions are in Outbreak.
 
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Use https://eddb.io/faction?t=72 instead of the system database. The only drawback of this is that there's no way to see how far the listed systems are in lightyears and how high its population is. Maybe EDDB can add that info to the Minor Faction database result list.
 
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Aashenfox

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cmdrrdmc said:
Here's the funny thing. It seems like now, the state of the faction the HGE belongs to determines the drop rather than the state of the controlling faction. There's only one faction in Lalande 4141 right now that is in Outbreak, so the chance of an HGE belonging to that one is low. I was in BD+47 2112 earlier today, and noticed that 3 (iirc) factions were in Outbreak, but not the controlling faction, so it won't show up in EDDB if you search for Outbreak. But theoretically, that should be a better system to look in since more of the factions are in Outbreak.
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There are four major dice rolls to determine the content of an HGE...

Roll 1: Are there any HGEs in the system at all?
Roll 2: For each HGE, which faction does it belong to?
Roll 3: For that faction, which of the three states does the USS inherit?
Roll 4: Does the USS contain the materials relevant to that state, or generic crap/something else entirely.

Certainly agree that the state of the controlling faction is about 1000% less relevant than ever before, since any faction can own the HGEs in a system (roll 2).
 

Stigbob

Stigbob
Aashenfox said:
lol, now you're getting desperate. I have several on topic posts on every page. Come on stiggy, try harder please, this is no fun.
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If you'd posted anything I thought was worth an answer I'd have given one, as I already have. That's what triggered all this rubbish from you.
 

cmdrrdmc

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Aashenfox said:
There are four major dice rolls to determine the content of an HGE...

Roll 1: Are there any HGEs in the system at all?
Roll 2: For each HGE, which faction does it belong to?
Roll 3: For that faction, which of the three states does the USS inherit?
Roll 4: Does the USS contain the materials relevant to that state, or generic crap/something else entirely.

Certainly agree that the state of the controlling faction is about 1000% less relevant than ever before, since any faction can own the HGEs in a system (roll 2).
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Yeah, I don't think Roll 2 was a thing before. So they somehow managed to make things even more uncertain despite making HGEs easier to spot. As an aside, I initially read your banner as "Galactic Anus Research Division". Protecting that which matters most indeed...
 

Speedcuffs

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Aashenfox said:
There are four major dice rolls to determine the content of an HGE...

Roll 1: Are there any HGEs in the system at all?
Roll 2: For each HGE, which faction does it belong to?
Roll 3: For that faction, which of the three states does the USS inherit?
Roll 4: Does the USS contain the materials relevant to that state, or generic crap/something else entirely.

Certainly agree that the state of the controlling faction is about 1000% less relevant than ever before, since any faction can own the HGEs in a system (roll 2).
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The results of my own testing leads me to believe that population size is no longer as relevant as before.
However, four layers of rng, bah, I gave up testing and logging my results. Went to Sag A* for a break.
 

Krash

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Aashenfox said:
There are four major dice rolls to determine the content of an HGE...

Roll 1: Are there any HGEs in the system at all?
Roll 2: For each HGE, which faction does it belong to?
Roll 3: For that faction, which of the three states does the USS inherit?
Roll 4: Does the USS contain the materials relevant to that state, or generic crap/something else entirely.
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How do you know this is the logic? Did this come from the developers?
 

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Aashenfox said:
Would you mind terribly reiterating your opinion on those two specific points, I can't seem to find your response?

How funny that you would mention 1%. How many people are in agreement with you on this thread Stiggy? maybe 1%? ;)

P.S. You're not exactly shy on the poorly veiled personal attacks yourself. Can we have the personal attacks AND the discussion? Or are you only capable of one or the other? If the latter, please could we discuss the issue that you think doesn't exist for a minute and get back to attacking each other shortly? :)
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Typical Bob reply. He gets off on sowing civil unrest in a thread where people are discussing the downsides of a game mechanic. Immediately followed by the snide remark that people are attacking him for his personal opinion. Which of course isn't true. I couldn't care less how he plays this game. Good for him that he's happy with how the game is. But he himself is criticizing everyone who encounters issues using a different and valid play style and that your approach of playing the game is wrong. Play it my way and there is no problem. Hilarious to say the least.
 
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Furnace

Furnace
Aashenfox said:
:) In outbreak you'd expect to see pharma isos, and in Civil Unrest, improvised components.
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Thanks, Aashen, I did try Civil Unrest systems before Outbreaks. Oh, hell, I'm plotting a route to one of the Civil Unrest systems again. One more try... [noob]

cmdrrdmc said:
Here's the funny thing. It seems like now, the state of the faction the HGE belongs to determines the drop rather than the state of the controlling faction. There's only one faction in Lalande 4141 right now that is in Outbreak, so the chance of an HGE belonging to that one is low. I was in BD+47 2112 earlier today, and noticed that 3 (iirc) factions were in Outbreak, but not the controlling faction, so it won't show up in EDDB if you search for Outbreak. But theoretically, that should be a better system to look in since more of the factions are in Outbreak.
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I would like to believe you, because I'm struggling with the lack of consistency. Thanks for the tip. [up]
 
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