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PvP Does Frontier need to Re-Think PVP rules of Engagement
- Thread starter Red Rocket
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Regarding the OP, not really necessary. I agree with others that there is no need to join open play, no need to try and meet other players, no need to try and join a wing, etc. Play solo and get bored and quit. That is what I did, but then came back to Elite after a year and decided to play in open (I never played in open before) and I learned my lesson the hard way as I was returning from outside the bubble on an exploration mission and had probably 100 million+ of credits in exploration data in my AspX and got interdicted by a couple off miscreants in my system as I was headed to the station. They blew me up in seconds. They asked for nothing, just killing me for giggles. I had no time to do anything. Makes total sense.
How you fix it is, if you kill innocent players and you are a murderer, you no longer get insurance, no buyback, no paying off anything and you lose everything once you get blown up. EVERYTHING! If you get blown up, you lose all of your ships, your modules, all your credits, everything. How many people would be random murderers then? If space is "dangerous", why not make this part a little more realistic? Why do you get to keep any of your stuff in this case?
How you fix it is, if you kill innocent players and you are a murderer, you no longer get insurance, no buyback, no paying off anything and you lose everything once you get blown up. EVERYTHING! If you get blown up, you lose all of your ships, your modules, all your credits, everything. How many people would be random murderers then? If space is "dangerous", why not make this part a little more realistic? Why do you get to keep any of your stuff in this case?
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Harsh. And I'm a rabid anti-griefer. These consequences could scale based on level of notoriety. Also, starting at notoriety 2, I want a way to track griefers using a wing beacon type control.
AP Birdman
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Maybe not lose your ship entirely but lose your insurance which would mean you could get your ship back if you were blown up but you'd have to pay full price to get it back.
This is actually a pretty good idea and even something that I, a ganker, would fully endorse.
I also really like the idea of wanted players being visble on the galmap. That's actually one really fun feature of FO76 is that when you're wanted, you're visible on the map for everyone with a big red Dot and how much your bounty is for. I love getting bounties in FO76 because it makes it really exciting not know who might be coming for you.
This would also give police players a way to hunt "bad guy" players.
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Problem with that idea is the fact you need Engineering before you can even consider going into PVP. Without Engineering, you may be unable to boost away from the engineered ship. You can get killed in less that 15 seconds - which is High Wake jump charge.
If you made ED Open Mode only - a lot of people would have no way to even obtain Engineers to counter people who have engineered ships. Plus, yadda yadda obligatory "some people like PVE".
Also, Solo and Private Groups are for yet one another reason: the connection. Not everyone play on Internet that is considered "necessary standard" in the USA/Western Europe, even my 10mbps internet is barely able to play e.g. Battlefield 1. Not to mention the game itself lose stability on weaker connections in Open Mode or become severly unplayable.
There are also people who play on limited GB per month usage and Solo and PG use way less data than Open Mode, around nine-ten times less.
Not to mention you still need Xbox Live/PSN to play Player Group or Open.
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Bob Lighthouse
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"I left the game and open gave me a more moving experience upon my return."
Why you're mad about that and want to punish those that add some depth is Beyond me.
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Probably because this is a video game and losing all progress would be very annoying and most likely lead to quitting the game.
Criminal players already do pay a lot more than law abiding commanders when they get destroyed, most people committing crimes just don't ever die because they are not flying cardboard builds and track their surroundings for other players and NPC cops/bounty hunters, so they never end up in a situation where their ship blows up.
This could be easily changed by the law abiding players forming bounty hunting squadrons to hunt these criminal players down, but because it's possible to flee to private groups and solo mode to avoid hostile player interaction, most choose to do that instead.
Even the recent opal piracy didn't bring bounty hunters in, those miners could pay tens of millions for protection easily.
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I'd fly escort for just two units of VO per miner.
Sounds great. We have the Fuel Rats, why not an Anti Griefer Squad?
I wish everyone played in Open
Many already exist!
Although "anti-greifer" isn't a searchable tag in the Squadrons window, I would expect any with the PvP and Bounty-Hunter tags to be actively doing something.
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Sounds great. We have the Fuel Rats, why not an Anti Griefer Squad?
I wish everyone played in Open
I will when we finally get Open PvE servers. Until then there's no way that I would step foot in that toxic wasteland.
No thanks. It's Mobius or Solo for this CMDR.
#notyourcontent
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I have only ever played in Open and never had a simngle problem with other players.
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Care-bear.
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I have only ever played in Open and never had a simngle problem with other players.
Nor I. OK, well, a couple of times. Still, we're talking two encounters out of hundreds, probably more.
I've caused more trouble than I have been subjected to.
Indeed. If this game were Open PvE I'd have left a long time ago.
Wait, you meant Open PvE, right?
One sarcastic post without the sarcasm tag and I've managed to confuse even myself
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Hmm...
The OP's suggestion would seem to make an Open a more PvE server. With the additional chance of seeing more CMDR's in Open some may choose to fight, I thought the PvP guys would be all for it.
I would play in the mode but prepare to get ignored and PvE'd so hard you'll wish you were playing Eve Online lol.
The OP's suggestion would seem to make an Open a more PvE server. With the additional chance of seeing more CMDR's in Open some may choose to fight, I thought the PvP guys would be all for it.
I would play in the mode but prepare to get ignored and PvE'd so hard you'll wish you were playing Eve Online lol.
This is the most ingenious system I've ever seen. It would suit E: D exceptionally well, exceptionally well indeed...
This would go some way to addressing the, [may I quote your (as--s)?], who employ ambush from behind tactics on a CMDR's obviously unarmoured vessel with a 3,000DPS alpha strike, and call that a "part of the game".
It really is genius.
Thanks for sharing
Mark H
You are missing the important, nee *vital* detail, that there is a simply massive difference in player population whether you are in Open or even one of the largest PvE groups out there. If you want the background population, and care not for PvP combat, then you are basically stuck without a natural "home". You can go into a lesser populated mode to avoid the PvP combat that just isn't how you want to enjoy your leisure time. But that changes your experience of the game. -OR- you can immerse yourself in a more populated mode (apparently?) but in doing so you must change your entire approach if you are to have any hope of surviving a 3,000DPS alpha strike. Which changes your experience of the game.
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This sounds like a terrible system.
Wow. When people want your game to be more like Fail76, there might be a problem with your game.
You know the best reason to avoid PvP in this game?
Every encounter with another player exposes your IP address to that player.
VPN up.
You know the best reason to avoid PvP in this game?
Every encounter with another player exposes your IP address to that player.
VPN up.