Ahh, had to try! There's various people who've been negatively effected by the changes in 3.3 that I'd like to see some kind of positive outcome for. Cheers for the concern anyway though!
If I wanted a 'radio-tuning' game I would have rather bought an old radio.
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So when you say people prefer different things, how is my proposal to offer different people different things a problem? At this stage the only obstacle not overcome is Dev time, which is not typically a level of justification most proposals go into, so what's the insurmountable objection?
This has been discussed the previous four million pages. You may disagree, you may not understand their point, but please dont pretend people never discussed this with you.
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Most people probably aren't going to read the whole 105 pages. I have & haven't seen anything that I think fits your description (ie a point I do not understand).
If you can provide examples of points you think I misunderstood that would be helpful.
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Sure. We just cant all get what we want.
But if you try, sometimes, you get what you need
The biggest point you seem to not understand, is that people can both disagree with your "compromise" idea (ie: be fully against re-adding ADS functionality to the game) and not be "wrong" (as this discussion is mostly a subjective one, there's no objectively correct response).
Until that is understood and accepted, there's no possible outcome for this discussion that doesn't end like all the previous threads made about it.
Flawed whataboutism.
Beige plague was introduced in 2.2 which launched Oct 2016. Considerable drama happened.
The exploration subforum was only created May 2017, seven months later.
At Lavecon in Jun 2017 players were told that FDev were working on a fix for the beige plague problem, to arrive in an upcoming update - news that was reiterated on forums & Reddit.
The fix arrived in Beyond 3.0's beta, Feb 2018, alongside new surface generation tech.
Don't explorers remember this? It wasn't long ago.
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Okay, but if it isn't backed up with any kind of justification it's not much of an argument
If you can provide some kind of justification please do. Here's a thread that discussed specifically that topic:
Anti ADS people JUSTIFY your no compromise stance here.
You may well feel the OP's summary in the OP is biased, by all means offer an alternative from your own perspective. I suggested this a few pages back in this thread. Or you could link to a post from another thread (including this one of course).
Maybe I missed something.
That's an excellent point that puts to rest an unrelated sideswipe
I had no idea when the exploration sub-forum was created, I don't go there much because it's often full of information I don't want to see (ie spoilers). I don't use the aliens forum for the same reason.
Video killed the radio star, but it's now back with vengeance. With enough of the new exploration, people will soon be tuned to the moon.
With enough of the new exploration, people will soon be tuned to the moon.They don't want to compromise. They don't care about your arguments.
I kind of feel like this thread has become a bit you vs the world at the moment, so before saying anything else, I'm just going to say that I know you're a good guy, and I hope I've not said anything that implied otherwise.
I can't speak for every other conversation, but I've understood what you meant, and I know you want the best for everyone. All I've really been saying is that where you see no Cons to something, I do see Cons, and that quite a lot of people would have ended up being unhappy. I would rather that was avoided. That's all.
So it's still best of luck from me in terms of the principles of what you're trying to do.
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The Exploration subforum has been around since 2014.
The forums were restructured in 2017, at which point the Exploration forum was relocated, not created.
It's easy enough to confirm this, just look at the date of the oldest post.
Video killed the radio star, but it's now back with vengeance.
People are going to be bored in fairly short order is my prediction. Nobody is going to put grind into that FSS like they did into exploration before it came along.
They would've faster gotten bored with the old system, but that didn't prevent people from exploring before. I mean, as you said, grinding. [haha][haha][haha]
Jump honk wasn't engaging at all for me. Whereas I like using the FSS the fact its also very useful inside the bubble for signal hopping makes it a far far superior mechanic.
Let the ADS die.
Well thats what it was. Generate a system. Do you like it? Yes... go inwards, no press the button - generate a system. Thats all it was, thats what it still is. The FSS is just there, like a bouncer. Hes in the doorway stopping you geting past, what you gonna do? Make the effort to force your way in or turn away?
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More like a helpful receptionist with a map and flyers for all the local attractions/eateries. You do need to look at the flyers to read them though.
They used to give out free maps of the area before the receptionists company arrived and bought everythng up against the wishes of the locals. It has been said ever sinse that the character of the area has changed.
Pls no more
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