Change pre-3.3 First Discovered Tags to First Visited

[Riverside]

With the new discovery process introduced in 3.3 it's now much easier to tag those distant binaries than before, where the player would travel to the body.

With the addition of 'First Mapped' we have a new way to identify that previous visitors to a system travelled to the body, but there is now some ambiguity over how the 'First Discovered' tag was obtained.

I propose all 'First Discovered' tags obtained before 3.3 be changed to 'First Visited' to differentiate old from new.


There would be some overlap where a player may have scanned a body before 3.3 but sold the data (and therefore got the first discovered tag) after 3.3. I suggest for simplicity that these are left unchanged, but ideally it would be good to have the 'first visited' tag apply to any tag gained by travelling to the body.

When out exploring there is some camaraderie and kudos in identifying patterns of behaviour from previous visitors to a system which the new 'mapped' tag will replicate. I'd like to see this preserved.

 

[Stigbob]

Is it a difference that needs highlighting ?.

If you get your name on it you "win" getting your name on it.

 

[Zieman]

Is it a difference that needs highlighting ?.

Yes it is. Previously you had to do something for it (fly your ship there), now you get the tag 1000x easier/faster.

 

[Stigbob]

Yes it is. Previously you had to do something for it (fly your ship there), now you get the tag 1000x easier/faster.

But the new system applies to everyone so it makes no difference, old or new getting the tag was achieved fairly.

 

[Riverside]

But the new system applies to everyone so it makes no difference, old or new getting the tag was achieved fairly.

The OP makes no mention of how fair a tag is, only the way in which a tag was obtained. It's okay to disagree.

 

[metatheurgist]

Stuff that! Just give me the money I would've got for scanning 2000+ systems at today's payout instead of the paltry sums that they offered when I went! They can keep the tag.

 

[Zieman]

But the new system applies to everyone so it makes no difference, old or new getting the tag was achieved fairly.

Old ones are devaluated by a factor of 1000 at least because of the new system.

 

[Riverside]

Old ones are devaluated by a factor of 1000 at least because of the new system.

I agree the effort required to get that first discovered tag is no longer the same in many cases. I think the change to the pre-3.3 tags would respect the efforts of those players that took the time to travel to the body just as the new 'mapped' tag does.

 

[Stigbob]

Old ones are devaluated by a factor of 1000 at least because of the new system.

Nah, they have the same value as all the other old ones. That being whatever importance you assign them yourself.

 

[Riverside]

That being whatever importance you assign them yourself.

Yes Stigbob, this proposal is here because I assign different importance to them and would like to see this reflected in the game.

That you do not recognise the difference is understood.

 

[Zieman]

Nah, they have the same value as all the other old ones.

Lol, you think only in credits?
Time investment is the differentiating factor.

 

[Riverside]

Lol, you think only in credits?
Time investment is the differentiating factor.

Yes I would say a pre-3.3 'first discovered' tag is on a par with a post 3.3 'first mapped' tag, which obviously are differentiated by the game.

 

[CMDR Spadino]

Yes I would say a pre-3.3 'first discovered' tag is on a par with a post 3.3 'first mapped' tag, which obviously are differentiated by the game.

I agree. I discovered thousands of systems before 3.3; I don't mind I needed so much time and effort to get my tags, but I would like to see this effort recognized, somewhat. And I think that anyone traveled hundreds of thousands of ls to those far, far away stars to explore them deserve recognition. And, why not, some credits bonus? We had been refund by those advanced scanner we had bought for our ships: why not receive the payout difference as a bonus from the systems we tagged previously ? I support both!

 

[Spaceman Si]

Agreed - I would always give kudos and an o7 to commanders who had actually flown out to scan systems hundreds of ls out from the arrival, as it represents effort and dedication. With the FSS, this distinction has gone, so it would be nice to see it return in some fashion.

 

[Leif_Erikson]

Agree with this but a better way is the other way round.Keep the first discovered tags on original finds before the update and bring out a first visited tag for all stars found since 3.3.

 

[da_wae]

Agree, this is a most pressing issue FDEV needs to dispatch a dev team right away to fix. What ED needs is definitely more fake achievements for pseudo-gameplay activities.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Perhaps the tag could show the discovery date on the Sysmap? That information would differentiate between pre & post 3.3 'discoveries'...

 

[Arindor]

I would like to see all my pre-3.3 'first discovered' tags changed to 'first mapped' tags simply because I had to fly to, and manually scan, each body in a system to obtain it.

 

[Spaceman Si]

Perhaps the tag could show the discovery date on the Sysmap? That information would differentiate between pre & post 3.3 'discoveries'...

I'd wanted the tags to show the tag date from the get-go

 

[Rat Catcher]

I'd wanted the tags to show the tag date from the get-go

It would have been great had this been so, if only to know just when some of the 'outlying' systems I have visited were first discovered, it tweaks my curiosity when I happen upon a discovered system in the middle of nowhere... and it is always just the one, I think the only time I've ran into a series of the same name discovered is when eco-jumping to a set destination over 'well travelled' paths