New policy on player kills in private groups?

Funny that Frontier are giving special risk-negating protections to DW2 while all the breathless gamesjourno articles wax poetic about what en epic and dangerous journey it is, with extensive preparations and need for the utmost caution. Because, you know - risk is interesting and dramatic. A low-stakes loading screen festival is decidedly less compelling.
 
Nothing wrong with that, good for them.

I'll disagree - everything wrong with it.
This needs to be unambiguosly the same policy and practice for all players at all times.
The criteria for granting or not granting re-imbursment should be clear and we should be told the consequences (if any) for those breaking the "rules" in these cases.
 

sollisb

Banned
Funny that Frontier are giving special risk-negating protections to DW2 while all the breathless gamesjourno articles wax poetic about what en epic and dangerous journey it is, with extensive preparations and need for the utmost caution. Because, you know - risk is interesting and dramatic. A low-stakes loading screen festival is decidedly less compelling.


There's risk and there's a being a gimp for some overpowered PvP ship...
 
I read that post as

"If you're in a group that has no PvP, and you and your buddy are just faffing about between each other e.g testing ship builds, to the point of death, your ship probably wouldn't get reimbursed".

Or a collection of other scenarios (doing a racing course, and a player bump causes you to crash and die... etc)
 
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Gee, DW2 is big promo for FD and Elite Dangerous, so much so, it has brought new players in just for the occasion, its reinvigorated players who haven't been on for awhile and it has generally been an all round positive experience for all involved.

See what happens when you just play the game, stop whining about what everybody else is doing, bring positive vibes into the community and create content for literally 10,000 players. Frontier come to the table and go 'lets help out a bit'.

DW2 is even going to get a station built out in the centre of the galaxy.

So is it me, or is it just that some folks have got their knickers in a twist because FD act more favourably towards players who don't act like psychotic monkeys?
 
There's risk and there's a being a gimp for some overpowered PvP ship...

I guarantee they'll be repositioning ships that die in neutron stars, crash land on planets, end everything else. For sure they'll be getting lots and lots of support tickets from everyone in DW2 who runs into any trouble at all, because FleetComm has basically instructed people to demand support for every little thing. Support Tickets are now officially a play mechanic and part of your strategy just like ship builds, route plotting, solo/open/private, 15 seconds logout timer, and the "block player" function.
 

Goose4291

Banned
All those people care who gank to mine salt. No rebuy, less salt. Sad griefers. Same reason they hate PGs. Less salt, sad griefers.

Actually, most of the virtriol seems to be coming from Mobians who arent happy this wasnt given to them during the infiltartion debacle for 'reasons' and now someone else is getting it (which is oddly my usual FDev bugbear, varying levels of quality of content depending on who you know and who you are).
 
I read some speculating about players getting instanced in the wrong mode, which would be a bug rather than the general danger of being destroyed by others.
 
If I make a PG with a no Gutamaya policy and find a Clipper, should the offender be punished for breaking the EULA, should it be worthy of a support ticket?
Yes. The account must then be perma-banned, all assets sold off and all credits transferred to me.
 
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Actually, most of the virtriol seems to be coming from Mobians who arent happy this wasnt given to them during the infiltartion debacle for 'reasons' and now someone else is getting it (which is oddly my usual FDev bugbear, varying levels of quality of content depending on who you know and who you are).
Not most, but some too, I'll agree to that :D
 
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Theres no chat about this on pve forum. So i gather from this absense that its just more stirring and selective interpretations. However the moaning about it all is giving some of us amusement.
 
So some player ships might be restored if they are blown up by some jerk with the intention to cause trouble for another player in the game.
I really don't see why this might be a topic for discussion. It's a game. Somebody acted like a Kindergarten bully to disrupt the fun of others. Exclude the jerk from the group, mend the harm he/she has done. It's just the right thing to do. While the kicking can happen on player side, the mending can't, so it's done by people who can.

I don't see any problem with that.
 
Appreciate the link, but I am taking no position on whether or not infiltrating a PG with the intent of breaking player made rules is a violation of the EULA. I was simply stating my opinion that when you put stipulations on a PG and someone breaks those player made rules, kicking them from the group is adequate recourse.

This is why this is done on a "case by case" basis, using something called "common sense". If I create a group for 5 of my friends with some silly rules, then support won't care in the slightest. If a larger group of people organizes (a more public, I might add) event, then support might very well help them out if the poo gets stuck in the fan. How large a group or event must be for support to notice? No one knows - there's no hard rules on this, and asking for these hard rules is likely not going to work.
 
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