HIP catalogue - work in progress

I link here a spreadsheet copy of the Hipparcos (HIP) catalogue, cross-referenced with other star catalogues and a recent (Jan 2019) edsm data dump to provide as many correlations as possible between the 100,000 stars in the catalogue and their equivalents in the galaxy of Elite: Dangerous.

I hope this may be useful to anyone looking to visit a previously unexplored HIP star, or curious about how the Elite galaxy matches up to the catalogue.

There are at present a great many gaps for various reasons;

1) edsm data does not include the majority of explorers
2) inaccuracies in the way the original datasets were applied to the game, so that the same star may appear twice in game under two of its names
3) my trawl program was limited in its ability to match HIP numbers to Elite names; it matched HD, HR, Durchmusterung, some proper names and some Bayer names / Flamsteed numbers, but not all catalogues and all spelling variants.
4) a considerable number of systems are renamed to purely fictional names in-game, especially of inhabited systems
5) there are many stars which are present in game but unreachable with current working jump technology (except for the Gnosis)
6) some stars in the game are not searchable by entering their HIP number, but exist under another name and have their identity as a HIP mentioned. Usually a star that exists in HIP is searchable as HIP regardless of its name, but these ones are harder to track down.

My aim is to fill in all the gaps and visit, to make sure they are entered into edsm, but it's an enormous project. My current plan is to spend the next 20 weeks on this, on the grounds that I would have spent that time on DW2 anyway. ;)
 
This looks great Jackie and is just the type of project I am interested in. I love the idea of trying to track these systems down. Is there issues with my participating in this if I'm using the PS4? Thanks for he efforts in this, this is AMAZING!
 
Hey Flagg, by all means - my goals here are to get as many stars identified as possible, and to get as many of those into edsm as possible. I'm not sure about the specifics of using edsm with a console account - I think you can definitely upload from Xbox but not sure about PS4.
 
Got it Jackie thanks so much! I would like to contribute as much as possible and will begin looking over this data as soon as I’m back in town!
 
For the non obvious renames and modified entries, that would be worth a shot trying to fire a message to FDev support ? They definitely used a database to fill in the galaxy with existing catalogs so they do have a track of which HIP systems they modified for the game.
 
Just as an FYI:

You can search the GalMap for a HIP number and it will locate the system even if it has a different in-game name. This is especially helpful in the Bubble where many real stars have ED-specific names.
The same is true for the HD (Henry Draper) catalogue.

Also, within 1,000 LY of Sol (might be 1,024) the HIP number takes precedence, but further out they'll be given the HD number.

I personally visited over 1,000 HIP and HD stars (logged in EDSM and all major bodies scanned) prior to my FSS-induced hiatus. I'm very happy that Jackie has taken up the slack :D
 
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I’m with you Drew I absolutely love visiting these systems! I’ve recently searched a lot of these systems and noted that when I got into the higher ranges of a certain tier (say over 22700 when going from 22000-22999) that it would start taking me to random systems that seemed out of place? Is this related to what you are talking about or a glitch in the galmap...in almost all instances
I would need to manually increase the number one by one in order to make
Sure I hit each system....if that makes sense? Whereas prior to the higher numbers, say below 22700 the galmap would take me to the next available system?
 
Cool Project Jackie. I take it the EDSM-dump doesn't include systems that are not with 'green coordinates' and only orange? I just randomly searched two from memory and neither were included in your spreadsheet. Just a heads-up that systems that only been visited once won't show up, perhaps? Disregard, I was search-imbecile. They were all there despite colour of coord.

I visited a bunch of HIPsters, HD's and HR's pre-EDSM too. Sadly I can't scan them again now for EDSM, since they're already scanned by me.
 
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I've been doing "HIP hop" exploration for awhile now, but I'm on PS4 so no EDSM for me (and I'm unwilling to implement the recent hack to use it). Out of curiosity OP, what is your CMDR's name? I'd like to keep an eye out for when you reach my little section of beach, not to grief (I'm in Solo), just to know who is in the neighborhood.

ps - I'm not just "Old Duck", I also roleplay my "daughter" Jenny, who probably has greater number of HIP-related tags by now.
 
@Old Duck, CMDR Jackie Silver
I split my time between Open, Fleetcomm, CoR and Solo (whenever there are network issues it usually works better so... hmm, I seem to be playing in Solo a lot. ;) )
 
Over the past year or so, I have been actively hunting down the EDSM missing catalog stars. I typically go in spurts where I will spend a few weeks doing nothing but this, then a few weeks doing other exploration things, then back to this. Having the current EDSM list is going to help a lot. Thanks for that. One thing that has truly surprised me is the number of not just ones not in EDSM, but the number of catalog stars that are as of now still untagged.
 
Over the past year or so, I have been actively hunting down the EDSM missing catalog stars. I typically go in spurts where I will spend a few weeks doing nothing but this, then a few weeks doing other exploration things, then back to this. Having the current EDSM list is going to help a lot. Thanks for that. One thing that has truly surprised me is the number of not just ones not in EDSM, but the number of catalog stars that are as of now still untagged.

I was actually thrilled about this, having joined the game late (PS4). The whole reason ED is my space game of choice over something like No Man's Sky is its realistic galaxy, which means catalog stars are much more important to me than procgen systems. I loving being able to point at the sky and tell my wife, "See that star? That's where I'm at!" Getting my name on a few of these has been sauce for the goose duck :D

BTW, I used to make it a habit to leave a planet or two undiscovered for others coming behind me, but with the new FSS, it's almost more work to not discover planets, LOL, and my alt-CMDR Jenny can really use the extra credits, so I'm not doing that so much these days.
 
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I was actually thrilled about this, having joined the game late (PS4). The whole reason ED is my space game of choice over something like No Man's Sky is its realistic galaxy, which means catalog stars are much more important to me than procgen systems. I loving being able to point at the sky and tell my wife, "See that star? That's where I'm at!" Getting my name on a few of these has been sauce for the goose duck :D

BTW, I used to make it a habit to leave a planet or two undiscovered for others coming behind me, but with the new FSS, it's almost more work to not discover planets, LOL, and my alt-CMDR Jenny can really use the extra credits, so I'm not doing that so much these days.

I would whole heartedly agree with this. It’s an amazing feeling, and it give the game amazing depth, to discover one of these stars. I too came a bit late on the PS4 so when I find one of these which are untagged it’s a great feeling to discover something which we can actually see in the star charts. I have spent the last several months looking into these systems and am still finding undiscovered areas!
 
A progress report of sorts - at this point I have changed ship three times (moving from Asp, to Clipper, and finally settling on a long range (>80ly) Anaconda, RV Always It Is Owls*) so as to be able to reach more stars.

I've so far visited every star (just about) that is technically possible (and didn't already have an entry) in the range HIP 1 through HIP 1500. Out of those roughly twenty were previously unvisited, or at least, did not have any scan data already present. I'm cherry picking the good stuff as I fly along, and once away from the Bubble that means I'm picking up a steady stream of water worlds and earth-like worlds, and making a fair amount of money. The 'Conda set me back 200 MCr but I've made a lot more than that.

All in all I'm finding it an interesting experience, and occasionally a challenge to reach stars that are far away from the plane. There's a lot of legwork involved, though. I'm bookmarking a mass number of stars and then trying to find a good route between them, but it's a serious distance to cover, and staring at the gallop is giving me eyestrain as I do searches.


*Blodeuwedd. Or do I mean Lilith? ;)
 
Progress report; I'm still engaged in this and am up to around HIP 3500 (plus around HIP 10000 - 10500 or so.). I've taken some major detours, though, I've been doing some Raxxla / Dark Wheel hunting on the side, and in the course of that I've finally hit Trading Elite. Which is strangely anticlimactic. There was a time when I'd've been excited to reach triple Elite, but now it seems rather unimportant.

Anyhoo. I have another hundred or so systems to hunt through for the Dark Wheel space station, then I'll be up to my HIPs again.

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So are you doing these in numerical order?

Mostly, yes. I'm visiting those stars in the HIP catalog which don't have an entry in EDSM (or which my name-matching script didn't work out the right in-game name for) with the ultimate goal of having every reachable HIP star being known to EDSM. The HIP numbering system is positional, based on equatorial coordinates, so as far as Elite is concerned a slice of say 100 HIP stars will fall approximately into a slanted plane - you can see on the image earlier that the slice extends out mostly to the "west" and a little to the "east".

Anyway. I started out at HIP 1 (...) but took a detour to HIP 10000 (...) or thereabouts (the tranche that surrounds Polaris, HIP 11767) while hunting for the Dark Wheel station, and I've been flying in circles around the Bubble hunting down an endless series of 8th moons of gas giants. Exciting times. ;) I may switch up to a later position in the HIP catalog just for variety.
 
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