DW2 - A missed opportunity
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Am I think only one who saw the word "protection" and immediately thought of organized crime? Like, "Hey, that's a nice ship you've got there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it."
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Harry Potter has been accepting payment for access to the squadron Dumbledore's Army [DUMB].
Anyone with the [DUMB] tag is safe from attacks from DG2 personnel. Well... everyone except for that one guy who we got over-excited about and accidentally killed at Geo Site 5 in Omega. We apologized and he was a good sport about it though.
I am aware that there is the possibility of an attack on the part of other participants in fact I am so aware that, although I participate with the role of Fuel Rat I chose to do the route with this Anaconda:
https://s.orbis.zone/1Oym
When I could have done it with this Phantom:
https://s.orbis.zone/1xnn
In the end I had to choose to take the Anaconda because if I wanted to fulfill my role of Fuel Rat, it was obliged to carry a ship with more capacity of modules. I know it is not the best setting for PvP but I really do not intend to do this on this occasion. With that I serve myself to do the CG of bounting and to flee in case of an attempt of a gank of a human is enough for me.
The problem is not to know how to equip a ship or to have enough credits to equip it for a hostile environment.
The problem is that there are many people who do not have the resources, neither the knowledge nor the time to be able to use it in this. These people have seen in this expedition a good way to enter fully into the game, to check for a few moments of why it is called "MMO" game ED coupling thousands of people to make this route.
And finally the problem is that this route was created, was thought to make it on private servers and as such, people carry ships configured for a PVE environment. If the start would have been told: "Hey, that the route will always be in open server", nothing to object but here, gentlemen, The problem is that there are always people that the only way you have to enjoy a game is by making a bad time for others players. Even if they accept the rules of a PVE server to admit them, and finally massacre other players who were not prepared for it.
That's the problem and not another.
https://s.orbis.zone/1Oym
When I could have done it with this Phantom:
https://s.orbis.zone/1xnn
In the end I had to choose to take the Anaconda because if I wanted to fulfill my role of Fuel Rat, it was obliged to carry a ship with more capacity of modules. I know it is not the best setting for PvP but I really do not intend to do this on this occasion. With that I serve myself to do the CG of bounting and to flee in case of an attempt of a gank of a human is enough for me.
The problem is not to know how to equip a ship or to have enough credits to equip it for a hostile environment.
The problem is that there are many people who do not have the resources, neither the knowledge nor the time to be able to use it in this. These people have seen in this expedition a good way to enter fully into the game, to check for a few moments of why it is called "MMO" game ED coupling thousands of people to make this route.
And finally the problem is that this route was created, was thought to make it on private servers and as such, people carry ships configured for a PVE environment. If the start would have been told: "Hey, that the route will always be in open server", nothing to object but here, gentlemen, The problem is that there are always people that the only way you have to enjoy a game is by making a bad time for others players. Even if they accept the rules of a PVE server to admit them, and finally massacre other players who were not prepared for it.
That's the problem and not another.
Do you think the DW organisers care if you enjoy griefing or not?
There are not 10,000 players on DW2 in my gameplay along for the ride with me. There are not 100. And, often enough, there are not 10.
Reality is the mind killer.
I just take some pics at some nice waypoints and call it a day.
On the PG, on the Discord, in the first DWII squadron. This whole damn game is a missed opportunity.
To be fair, it does have a lot to offer, but man... I'm not always sure if I'm playing the game or if the game is playing me. And with that, some seem to not know there is a difference.
Reality is the mind killer.
I just take some pics at some nice waypoints and call it a day.
On the PG, on the Discord, in the first DWII squadron. This whole damn game is a missed opportunity.
To be fair, it does have a lot to offer, but man... I'm not always sure if I'm playing the game or if the game is playing me. And with that, some seem to not know there is a difference.
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If we're continuing down the real world analogy path, interestingly it was merchant ships that tried to steam across the atlantic by themselves rather than in convoy that had a higher statistical chance of being sunk.
If every explorer winged up with at least one defender, the instancing could be solved.
Very true... Lack of time to play, incompatibility of it, etc. make us a small dispersed cloud in a large galaxy. Thankfully we have WPs to at least see any CMDRs at all. And the further we go, the less there will be and I'm just hoping I make it. I'm a pretty social guy and there aren't any NPCs to make friends with out there.
Lol no. They run from anyone that poses an actual threat to them^^
But they had to play in open. Do you think if a method to blockout the U-boats had existed, they wouldn't have taken it like a shot?
Why write "they" when he declares himself as a ganker? It should be "you".
What makes this a non-issue is that with a warship you will be able to run away if you're not determined to win or die. So even if instancing was not a problem a ganker could destroy explorer ships (a matter of seconds) and get out, disregarding the escorts.
This call for escorts is more like a call for pretending to be regular gameplay, so that gankers could be even more pleased with themselves.
Why write "they" when he declares himself as a ganker? It should be "you".
Because I was talking about gankers in general. I watched HP's stream VOD's a bit and... yeah.
Let's not turn this thread into yet another griefing vs PvE vs Open vs PG mess.
Organized protective fleet would have been cool but the game is not designed for this, period. That's all there is to it.
Organized protective fleet would have been cool but the game is not designed for this, period. That's all there is to it.
Like most explorers on this exploration trip, I have safety for free. The safety of the PG, and the safety of an enormous number of stars to move between. I haven't the tiniest concern about safety, other than the risk that I'll lose concentration and crash into something. So why would I pay?
"Period." Wow Qohen, that's a pretty rigid opinion about a topic that I haven't noticed any truly dedicated explorer knowing a hill of beans about. A dedicated group of armed and armored defenders patrolling waypoints in Open could do wonders to deter seal clubbing. It might not be perfect, but it would be much much MUCH better than nothing at all, which is what you guys settled for. If you want to rely on PG to be your "security" that's great and I'm sure it'll work wonders for the players actually in it, but how about you save the definitive comments for subjects that you actually know something about? Security beyond being in group not being one of them.
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Not even on a PG has been safe because there have been infiltrated attackers on these servers.
What should be discussed is the "bad faith" with which other players have acted on this occasion, accepting the PVE rules of a PG, to satisfy their cravings for destruction. That is what we have to discuss and not the reason why the organizers of the DW2 have decided to make their event with these rules.
It is clear that your decision is made accurately by seeing comments from you and other people like you.
We have a organized escort service for the fleet, I seen it used yesterday when NPC's started attacking explorer ships at a WP yesterday in the PS4 PG..
If you bully somone dont act suprised if you not invited to the party. I undertand that the fear is real, that Open will be more or less abandoned after the actions of the PVP'ers an we will not be there for your amusement. But sorry lads, your brought this down on yourself.
If you bully somone dont act suprised if you not invited to the party. I undertand that the fear is real, that Open will be more or less abandoned after the actions of the PVP'ers an we will not be there for your amusement. But sorry lads, your brought this down on yourself.
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