Mass effect

What is it with people wanting to bring stuff from other sfi-fi franchises into ED? I don't think I have ever been on a sci-fi game forum where the players demanded Thargoids, why do Thargoids get short changed?
 
As a hypothetical question, would reapers and the various mass effect species be interesting to meet in a setting like this - yes they would.

Are thargoids totally awesome and amazing and fill the wonder and personal connection that all the species that mass effect pull off? I know how I would answer that...
 
As a hypothetical question, would reapers and the various mass effect species be interesting to meet in a setting like this - yes they would.

Are thargoids totally awesome and amazing and fill the wonder and personal connection that all the species that mass effect pull off? I know how I would answer that...
Sad thing is 99% of the people playing the game overlook the fact that the thargoids tried communicating with us multiple times before we started a war with them
 
Sad thing is 99% of the people playing the game overlook the fact that the thargoids tried communicating with us multiple times before we started a war with them

Based on the historical Guardian records, all attempts and communications with the thargoids were ignored, and the Guardians reluctantly had to defend themselves.
 
Based on the historical Guardian records, all attempts and communications with the thargoids were ignored, and the Guardians reluctantly had to defend themselves.
Implying that
  • The Guardians had no reasons to present themselves as the wronged party and historians are always objective
  • The Thargoids are incapable of changing their opinions or methods for dealing with aliens (that does not contradict their alienness compared to the almost-human Guardians)

Wild speculation, yes. And this being a game with certain ideas to communicate, it is easier to do that with simpler stories. That being said (and to also get back to Mass Effect), I am not really a fan of "big cycle" stories, even though they tend to appear as part of the background of several books and games I enjoy.

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I would argue that the Thargoids fulfill the same role as the Reapers, and therefore don't need "competition". I am sure we have not seen the largest Thargoid ships or bases yet.
 
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Based on the historical Guardian records, all attempts and communications with the thargoids were ignored, and the Guardians reluctantly had to defend themselves.

To my knowledge the guardians attempted to enslave the thargoids instead of communicate with them. and the thargoids have been using the "golden record" method of communication because the guardian's and human's methods of communications are like gibberish to them due to how signal encryption works.
Although ever since the war started there hasnt been any further thargoid "golden records" appearing lately that I know of.

plus if you recall the humans attacked the thargoids first, twice, and the thargoids retaliated against specific factions in the beginning.
And I think that the reason they were able to differentiate betwene human factions in the first place is because faction data on vessels is not encrypted like communication signals are. So the thargoids are able to match a pattern to a ship although they wont discern "text" from said signal because they have nothing to relate that information to other than a signal pattern.

Also whatever the guardians did to the thargoids was way worse than what we did to them with the mycoid virus.
the thargoids act as though they were deeply scarred by their encounter with the guardians and attack any of their technology with extreme prejudice.
meanwhile there were thargoids willing to have peaceful interaction with humans even with a war going on.

So what the hell did the guardians do to the thargoids that was worse than a virus specifically designed to wipe them out?
If we assume enslavement the guardians may have access to any number of methods that would torture thargoid individuals or keep them contained.
We have certianly seen that thargoids have not been able to adapt to guardian technology either.

In any case Id rather have the thargoids which act more like species 8472 in the game over the reapers which sole goal is to wipe out all life everywhere. (legal issues aside)
 
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Sad thing is 99% of the people playing the game overlook the fact that the thargoids tried communicating with us multiple times before we started a war with them

WHY DO YOU HATE HUMANITY? Those are lies by the liberal media! DON'T YOU WANT US TO WIN?

We need to build a hyperspace wall around the Pleyades Nebula, and the Thargoids will pay for it! A big, beautiful interdimensional wall!

Ok, overused references aside, I do think we need more aliens, but nothing as extravagant or "grandiose" as the Thargoids or the Guardians. I would like to see more spots of small lost civilizations like what the Soontil relics are. Explorers finding ruins of extinct civilizations that never went beyond their system or sub-sector, and also some that are still alive but that are hidding for fear of humanity and the Thargoids, things like that, just some spots of flavor here and there.
 
WHY DO YOU HATE HUMANITY? Those are lies by the liberal media! DON'T YOU WANT US TO WIN?

We need to build a hyperspace wall around the Pleyades Nebula, and the Thargoids will pay for it! A big, beautiful interdimensional wall!

Ok, overused references aside, I do think we need more aliens, but nothing as extravagant or "grandiose" as the Thargoids or the Guardians. I would like to see more spots of small lost civilizations like what the Soontil relics are. Explorers finding ruins of extinct civilizations that never went beyond their system or sub-sector, and also some that are still alive but that are hidding for fear of humanity and the Thargoids, things like that, just some spots of flavor here and there.

I definitely would like to find ruins and civilizations that weren't guardian or thargoid related.

Also no I want to go join the thargoids 😋
 
Sad thing is 99% of the people playing the game overlook the fact that the thargoids tried communicating with us multiple times before we started a war with them ... the thargoids have been using the "golden record" method of communication because the guardian's and human's methods of communications are like gibberish to them due to how signal encryption works.
Are you referring to those audio spectograms?

Honestly, I don't think we have an actual war here. It feels very much like they're holding back their punches.
I didn't really pay attention to the buildup of the situation we're in now - so if you could explain some more on what was done (or wasn't done) with the spectograms, that'd be terrific.

Isn't that spectogram stuff for the systems they target for "infestation" and "incursion" states?
Something to do with that "Eagle Eye" thing that Humans have developed since...
 
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Would it be fun if we could fight the reapers from the mass effect series

Hmm. Yea. Also, why are there no Tie-Fighters vs. Borg battles in game, where are the Narn and Centauri and why the hell don't we have Orcs and Elves?

FD, fix immediately or somebody will want my stuff!!!11!!
(Dooooom!!!!! )
 
Are you referring to those audio spectograms?

Honestly, I don't think we have an actual war here. It feels very much like they're holding back their punches.
I didn't really pay attention to the buildup of the situation we're in now - so if you could explain some more on what was done (or wasn't done) with the spectograms, that'd be terrific.

Isn't that spectogram stuff for the systems they target for "infestation" and "incursion" states?
Something to do with that "Eagle Eye" thing that Humans have developed since...

In one of the spectograms it contained basic imagry of their vessels, probes, and systems that looked very similar in function to the golden record we launched containing images of what the human body looked like and the layout of our solar system.

Its very unlikely they would put that information on one of their probes if it wasnt an attempt to communicate.

Also back when we used the discovery scanner honk on their probes they "honked" back with similar tone. But because their biology uses waves more heavily in the EM spectrum it disabled our vessels. After which the thargoids discovered they could get up close and inspect us without firing a shot by temporarily disabling our vessels.

The discovery scanner honk also agitates thargoid cyclops drones which would suggest that it is deafening to them or the equivalent of screaming to them.
This is further supported because their "em pulse" used to disable our ship is accompanied by what sounds like a screech or scream.

However the fact that thargoids are able to differentiate between human factions regardless of vessel seems to come from the ship identifiers that are non-encrypted signals.
It is likely thargoids are able to match a signal pattern to ships based on what faction a vessel is aligned with, although they are unable to discern text because they have no reference for that.
It also doesn't help that our communication signals are encrypted so the signal pattern is based entirely on the encryption key.
So as far as our communications go, those signals are entirely gibberish to the thargoids.
 
Apparently I have missed something if this is true. Could you help me find me a source for that please?

I cant seem to find it beyond the guardian's side of the story refrencing that they tried to communicate with the thargoids from their pillar recordings, as documented by remlok.

There was something I read somewhere about the guardian's ability to manipulate biology being used to control and enslave the thargoids which would contradict the guardian's historical records that we are currently aware of.
Im also fairly certian that the guardian's ability to manipulate biology was part of the reason why there was in-fighting between the thargoids in the first thargoid war. because we've already seen different factions of thargoids co-existing without a problem.
I'll keep seeing if I can find that documentation though.
 
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