LOL, for somebody who brags about how they "like to fly spaceships", I find your answer self-defeating. Thank Frontier, we at least have the FSS, as the old DSS was the real "empty time sink"
BAN THE FSS OR MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE
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LOL, for somebody who brags about how they "like to fly spaceships", I find your answer self-defeating. Thank Frontier, we at least have the FSS, as the old DSS was the real "empty time sink"
The OP hasn't responded to this thread since they made it, stop feeding it.
Thats 90% of threads on this forum.
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LOL, for somebody who brags about how they "like to fly spaceships", I find your answer self-defeating. Thank Frontier, we at least have the FSS, as the old DSS was the real "empty time sink"
You want to make everybody fly round in a circle before they can see anything? Cmon now this is a weak argument.
Quite the opposite.
Before FSS, my Exploration rank had barely been around Aimless and Mostly Aimless until was introduced. Just because I found it a very boring activity. After the FSS, the exploration began to be actually fun and engaging and I'm several percent from exploration Elite.
Should FSS be banned? Sure, but only if you are fan of these idle clicker mobile games. Because that's what exploration was before.
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To be honest, I don't get why people get mad over FSS. You can still do that the old-fashioned way. Honking still works as it used to. You surface-scan targetted planets when you approach them like you did in the past...
...why attacking FSS which was created to make exploration an actually engaging activity?
...why attacking FSS which was created to make exploration an actually engaging activity?
I think its cause of the multiple modes is what gets people irritated the most.
I get accused of posting too much... It doesnt work that way outside the bubble. You cant do the old fashoned way in systems that have not been previously explored. I suspected you were quite new but i didnt want to say so incase it got taken the wrong way, but well, thats why you dont understand the issues people have.
Honk a virgin system you get nothing. Some might say "paralax" but i reject that completely. For obvious reasons.
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So you are admitting that you ARE lazy, and that's why you want the ADS returned [haha]
I've been on Elite for over a year. I tried honking and approaching stellar bodies the old fashioned way out of curiosity when I was actually doing a short pilgrimage to that triple blackhole system. Everything seemed to work the old way as well.
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stellar bodies are automacitally dscovered for you, including black holes. There may well have been other stuff you didnt see in there.
There is an obsidian ant "how to " on youtube that will show what i mean. Thats where im getting my info from
cause im not binding all those keys...Edit : quite alot is now auto discovered in a radius around your ship, so you can pick up occasional planets aswell as gas giant moons
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Thing is, that seems to be a misconception about the ADS that it is somehow easier or faster to get that initial system overview. It's not IMO.
I don't disagree with you that a player should have to do something in order to scan / tag a body, but I doubt you'll get much support here! The FSS fully scans systems with just a single star totally passively, and systems with only stars in it (no matter how remote they are from the primary star) will fully scan with just the FSS honk. I got dozens of first discovered systems this way during my recent short exploration trip. And yet the ADS, which scanned nothing was apparently OP...
But frankly FD want exploration to be quicker, they want it to be painless, and they want people to engage in it which is fair. And there are plenty of FSS supporters who already think it's too cumbersome and slow having to throttle to zero and then enter the FSS screen to see what's there (despite the fact that by that time they will have scanned the star)... So no, I don't think you'll get a lot of support suggesting that everyone should fly at least once around a star to get that same information.
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stellar bodies are automacitally dscovered for you, including black holes. There may well have been other stuff you didnt see in there.
There is an obsidian ant "how to " on youtube that will show what i mean. Thats where im getting my info from
Edit : quite alot is now auto discovered in a radius around your ship, so you can pick up occasional planets aswell as gas giant moons
Gas Giant moons? Only if the gas giant is freakishly close to the parent star. I have never seen that yet. I believe the limit is around for auto resolve is around 100ls. Most gas giants are over a 1000ls distance with only a few shorter then that and then they are not that close.
I didnt mean anything by the new comment. Which system BTW? TXR-1 or whatever its called? Crashing into "the great anihilator" is what really made me love exploration in this game. Turning around in finger freezing terror and starting up the FSD and the effects... just like interstellar
Well obviously you have to fly up to the gas giant itself, but once you are close you pick up all the moons for zero effort.
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Apart from the flying bit which is not different then before.
Before all you did was fly to a planet and watch a whizzy animation go round and then fly to the next, rince and repeat. No effort there either.
All it was, was time consuming for no real reward.
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Come on now, even you have to admit that you basically take every opportunity to say "FSS is rubbish" - nothing to do with carefully explaining anything, you just seem to think that the sheer volume of numbers of your "rubbishing" posts will make the slightest bit of difference.
As I have repeatedly mentioned, in the beta I supported the proposal to have the FSS as an addition to a perhaps-modified ADS display. You have just repeatedly said that the FSS is nonsense and has spoiled the game for you. Most of the rest of us just went, "Oh well we have got to live with it" and lo and behold it turns out that the FSS has some huge advantages over the "honk and get a picture" system.
So get real, realise that everybody and their canary has seen that you don't like the FSS system, so get on with the game and stop spamming unrelated threads (I don't include this one in that) with your FSS rubbishing.
I think i might have said it was bad work. The zooming mechanics i find to be boring. But more often i have said if others enjoy it, thats great, im not trying to take it away from them. In this thread i have said that. Again with the "huge advantages" i cant tell if its deliberate or not but it draws me to have to keep posting to correct stuff like that. You are well aware that it breaks a certain kind of gameplay. The advantage is not having to fly or put any amount of time in. There is also an advantage for pure cherry picking. Its swings and roundabouts. Im disapointed that you dont seem to understand that, i thought you did.
Edit: I do beleive a response one way or the other is close anyway. FD said they would answer questions so you can look forward to an end of my posting about the possibilitys of the changes i want soon enough
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You're not wrong. You can fly right up to a planet and stare at it for 20-30 seconds (depending on how big / detailed it is) and get that same info from that you'd get from the FSS. The difference is that the old way required you to decide if going there in the first place was worth it (because it LOOKS like an ELW but you might be wrong). Old way took several minutes. FSS method means look on the tuning bar and see if there's an ELW signal on it.
I completely agree with him. I hate the FSS. I don't like having to stop my ship and twiddle knobs on that terrible interface.
I haven't used the FSS for at least a month now, and But I'm not going to be leaving the bubble again any time soon.