Is there anything out here?

londonx · Mar 12, 2019

varonica said:
, strange how random works sometimes.

Procedural generation isn't random. Frontier went to great lengths to determine planet geology and volcanic activity based on scientific principles, I am sure they did the same for biological forms.

On top of that haven't the players only explored 0.01% of the galaxy or something like that?

londonx · Mar 12, 2019

Hellakitty said:
And?

well less of the shrill hyperbole please if you are going to hang around

Hellakitty · Mar 12, 2019

londonx said:
well less of the shrill hyperbole please if you are going to hang around

The only shrill hyperbole is from the keyboards of the white knights and those who are of the cult of Braben.

MajorHavoc · Mar 12, 2019

zipline said:
I was just going on what the codex said for the NSPs already reported in the sector, it stated "only found in y-class star systems", however I am not filtering any out now so hoping that will increase my chances, but I have reigned in my expectations, don't think I will find any human or alien POIs out this far, no crash sites, guessing they are not procedurally generated but hand-placed in systems closer to the bubble. :-(

I have been searching for Crystalline Shards near the bubble and discovered that the codex entry is not entirely correct, it states Distance from nearest star >12000 ls where I believe it should be the 'entry star'. Sure enough I found some in a binary A system at 57000 ls but they were closest to an M class star orbiting the binary A's about 3000 ls away.

I also found a lone degraded USS out in the PLAA THUA region, I might go back out as I am certain that area was devoid of human/alien tech. Stuff out here all right, interesting though I guess depends on how useful it is ?

Lightspeed · Mar 12, 2019

We've been lied to. The government has been covering this stuff up for years ......... oh ...... this is FD forum

EISENHORN01 · Mar 12, 2019

Hellakitty said:
This really wouldn't surprise me, give FD's turning of a blind eye to the blatant data-mining of game files by Canonn to magically find new content back in the days of searching for Guardian sites. God knows how many other 'wonderful' discoveries they've made because of data-mining and other such activities. But they get a free pass from FD because it's one of their beloved continued marketing campai..... err sorry, I meant player groups.

FD hand-placing juicy bits of stuff in the path of DW2 as they already know the route the convoy of snoozes will take is something I wouldn't put above them at all. Gotta make it seem like there's all this amazing new content to be found and ramp up that FOMO when in reality there's naff all out there for your average explorer except copy pastes of all the stuff that was found within days or weeks of the AMAZING GAME CHANGING BEYOND CHAPTER FOUR BUY OUR PAINTJOBS AND SHIP KITS.

Try Guinness, bitter doesn’t suit you

Tikanderoga · Mar 12, 2019

varonica said:
400b star systems out there, FDEV have actually placed one of exactly that sort of thing around one of them

Ok I don't really know that for sure, but they may have, someone may find it tomorrow, or we could play the entire lifetime of the game and not find it, that's a galaxy for you

That's like saying: I've hidden 1 black grain of sand in the sand pit. It's there, you just have to search for it. But it's fun!
I rather go and play on the swing set.

I have shelved ED too, like many other, I do check out the forums, hoping for something to bring me back to ED, since I really like the game. But instead I am playing Skyrim. I finished it twice already. And when I need a break from it, I play MK X, waiting for MK XI to drop.

Leadfoot · Mar 13, 2019

The Laser of a Thousand Truths

That's already in-game.

Click to expand...

Zoltah-Talion said:
Been there, done that. Damn near had it back to Jameson Memorial when suddenly like a hundred vibrating torpedoes came out of nowhere heading straight for me and I felt a great disturbance in the force. All my screenshots? Gone! All my messages to the Pilot's Federation? Ignored! Now I just have the story to tell as I sit at the end of the bar, gazing sadly into a glass of Kongga Ale.

Great follow-up. Repped.

Das Boot · Mar 13, 2019

londonx said:
On top of that haven't the players only explored 0.01% of the galaxy or something like that?

I have heard a similarly small figure as well. I have also heard that FD have said someone has been through the system containing Raxxla.

If both of these are true, I think it imperative that all further exploration stop forthwith. DW2 must be abandoned immediately and all CMDRs should start a systematic remapping of all previously visited systems.

Should be easy. Raxxla will be found in a few weeks.

Zoltah-Talion · Mar 13, 2019

Leadfoot said:
Great follow-up. Repped.

*bows*

Das Boot said:
I have also heard that FD have said someone has been through the system containing Raxxla.

FD have never said that, no one has to my knowledge. It seems to be just one of those rumors that get started without any source.

Raxxla may be one of those great mysteries which are better left unsolved, perhaps that way they never lose their meaning... or their beauty. Of course it may be within us, and may perhaps be found by the pure in heart. [big grin]

varonica · Mar 13, 2019

londonx said:
Procedural generation isn't random. Frontier went to great lengths to determine planet geology and volcanic activity based on scientific principles, I am sure they did the same for biological forms.

On top of that haven't the players only explored 0.01% of the galaxy or something like that?

I am afraid you aren't following the point at all.

The randomness is contained in what systems a player visits out of the 400b+ that exist. Given the same jump range and a parallel course across the galaxy in theory any two players should get almost identical results, but the fact is they don't always, our first assumptions aren't always correct when working with statistics. The numbers of earth like worlds any one player actually finds will be distributed on a bell curve and there will always be a few people out on the far edges of that curve, the players that finds a large number of earth like worlds and the players that find a very low number, most players of course will find the average number. The randomness comes in determining which player you are and is nothing to do with the procedural generation of the galaxy.

varonica · Mar 13, 2019

Zoltah-Talion said:
*bows*

FD have never said that, no one has to my knowledge. It seems to be just one of those rumors that get started without any source.

I seem to distinctly recall hearing that very thing said during a tech talk once, you can't prove they haven't, leave me with my fantasy! [yesnod]

Ian Doncaster · Mar 13, 2019

Das Boot said:
I have heard a similarly small figure as well. I have also heard that FD have said someone has been through the system containing Raxxla.

If both of these are true

The first is approximately true, though it's been about a year since Frontier last released the figures.

The second is not something anyone can prove FD said. It *may* be true anyway - what little we know about Raxxla suggests it's more likely to be close to Sol than close to Beagle - but there are plenty of places it could be hidden within 5kLY of Sol where no plausible amount of random searching would ever discover it.

Factabulous · Mar 13, 2019

26th Feb 2019: https://twitter.com/EliteDangerous/status/1100358382236643328

PiggyPiggyPig · Mar 13, 2019

Its a shame they keep fixing the (bugs) rare unique places such as the huge planetary sinkholes that you could drive off and the super heated gas giants that turned your cockpit into a whiteout. Be nice to have some unique stuff, things and strange anomalies.

Ian Doncaster · Mar 13, 2019

Factabulous said:
26th Feb 2019: https://twitter.com/EliteDangerous/status/1100358382236643328

Thanks - I'd missed that one.

0.036% then, or about 144 million systems.

Impressively, EDSM has just over 35 million - a quarter of the total - in its database. That's a higher proportion than I'd have expected.

Leadfoot · Mar 13, 2019

I have also heard that FD have said someone has been through the system containing Raxxla.

Zoltah-Talion said:
FD have never said that, no one has to my knowledge. It seems to be just one of those rumors that get started without any source.

Actually, I remember seeing a post from one of the Devs stating that some player went through that system, though I have no idea what thread it was in so I can't put the link in here to verify. You'll have to trust me on that one. I'd have to guess that, in the course of exploring, they saw "Eh, a bunch of rocks, nothing to see here" and moved on to the next jump. Now we have the FSS. Might have caught it though we'll have to go back there (wherever "there" is) and try it again.

Raxxla may be one of those great mysteries which are better left unsolved, perhaps that way they never lose their meaning... or their beauty. Of course it may be within us, and may perhaps be found by the pure in heart. [big grin]

You might be right about that. Once something has been examined, it looses it's "mystery".

My guess it's an ELW but it could also be a planet with a city under a dome (my guess would be an ELW because that way we could find it but couldn't land there yet).

Zoltah-Talion · Mar 13, 2019

Leadfoot said:
Actually, I remember seeing a post from one of the Devs stating that some player went through that system, though I have no idea what thread it was in so I can't put the link in here to verify.

Seekers after Raxxla should have a look at Drew Wagar's recently published video, I take the liberty of embedding it below. He denies that there is any truth in the claim that someone flew through the system and just missed it, and personally, I think he knows what he is talking about.

It's been my personal dream to find Raxxla since I can't even remember when... part of life maybe is finally accepting that some desires will forever elude us.

[video=youtube;1AsfgQqbRKM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AsfgQqbRKM[/video]

GreyAreaUK · Mar 13, 2019

Attack Chimp said:
Raxxla is rhumored to be in a locked system inside the bubble. I wonder if these locked systems can be traveled to through normal space.

Nope. People have tried* with some of the closer stars. You technically get there, but the system doesn't load.

* not with locked systems specifically

Ambroza · Mar 13, 2019

Leadfoot said:
Actually, I remember seeing a post from one of the Devs stating that some player went through that system, though I have no idea what thread it was in so I can't put the link in here to verify. You'll have to trust me on that one. I'd have to guess that, in the course of exploring, they saw "Eh, a bunch of rocks, nothing to see here" and moved on to the next jump. Now we have the FSS. Might have caught it though we'll have to go back there (wherever "there" is) and try it again.

No such post exists. The rumor is that a developer said this at a conference or meetup to some player. It is completely unverifiable and can be disregarded.